Giants (Verlander) vs Cubs (Rea): 5/6/25, 6:40pm

[Irrelevant Dude]

This is gonna be an epic comeback when the Cubs  win 15-14.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Ryan Pressly ranks 357th in K/9 out of 358 pitchers who’ve pitched at least 10 innings this season.

[abuck1220]

guessing there haven’t been a lot of “0 ip, 9 runs allowed” lines by a RP in an extra inning game throughout the course of mlb history. 

[soccer10k]

6 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

I mean, he's pitched twice in the last two weeks and was the 6th guy out of the pen today. There are signs he's out of the circle of trust.

Yeah, he was brought in to face 7-8-9. If Counsell still trusted him, Pressly would have gone in the 9th.

[JHBulls]

6 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

99.9 % positive we're gonna see Pressly put on IL tomorrow 

Dude needs to be released. Would alleviate a lot of fan anxiety if he’s not around.

[Dfan25]

Would think they IL Pressly tomorrow .

[soccer10k]

On the plus side, at least Pressly decided to regress numbers wise all in one outing rather than giving up 2-3 runs on 3 separate occasions and potentially blowing more than 1 game.

[Cubs206]

11 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

99.9 % positive we're gonna see Pressly put on IL tomorrow 

Hopefully forever 

[Derwood]

6 minutes ago, abuck1220 said:

guessing there haven’t been a lot of “0 ip, 9 runs allowed” lines by a RP in an extra inning game throughout the course of mlb history. 

 

I love that you only show up after Cub meltdowns

[Cubs206]

6 minutes ago, abuck1220 said:

guessing there haven’t been a lot of “0 ip, 9 runs allowed” lines by a RP in an extra inning game throughout the course of mlb history. 

Is there a Stat? Has to have been broken or gotten close. 

[Wilson A2000]

We begged him to come here. We’ll promise you the closer role. He’s going in the IL tomorrow, but he doesn’t have the stuff to be a closer when he comes back.
 

Not working out. 

Edited May 7, 2025 by Wilson A2000

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I get that no one wants to hear it after a disaster outing, but just to ground the anger, Pressly hadn't given up an earned run since March, and in his last 10 outings had a 0.9 WHIP, 3.21 FIP, and 63% GB%.  The lack of strikeouts are a concern but he had been boring and effective for the last month.

[JHBulls]

3 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

I get that no one wants to hear it after a disaster outing, but just to ground the anger, Pressly hadn't given up an earned run since March, and in his last 10 outings had a 0.9 WHIP, 3.21 FIP, and 63% GB%.  The lack of strikeouts are a concern but he had been boring and effective for the last month.

Okay, that’s fair enough. It’s easy to forget all the good a pitcher has done over a long period of time, after an outing like that. Especially when he’s struggled previously to his good stretch.. 

[muntjack]

8 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

I get that no one wants to hear it after a disaster outing, but just to ground the anger, Pressly hadn't given up an earned run since March, and in his last 10 outings had a 0.9 WHIP, 3.21 FIP, and 63% GB%.  The lack of strikeouts are a concern but he had been boring and effective for the last month.

 

 

Now earned runs is a good way to measure a reliever? 

[We Got The Whole 9]

25 minutes ago, Bobson Dugnutt said:

Ryan Pressly ranks 357th in K/9 out of 358 pitchers who’ve pitched at least 10 innings this season.

But the question is what the horsefeathers happened? Last year he dropped off but he was still good and we would be happy with that version.

 

He must be tipping pitches. There is no way his K% should drop by 90%.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Just now, muntjack said:

Now earned runs is a good way to measure a reliever? 

In that time he only gave up 1 run total, when Turner dropped the ball that hit him in the chest.  He hasn't been giving up baserunners and despite the low K's he had a good FIP because everything was getting beaten into the ground and he wasn't walking people.

[squally1313]

1 minute ago, muntjack said:

Now earned runs is a good way to measure a reliever? 

Since March until tonight, 10 innings, zero earned runs, one unearned run, 6 hits (1 in his prior 6 innings), 3 walks, 0.00 ERA, 3.16 FIP, 4.30 xFIP. And, in my opinion, clearly not considered the closer or even a top option.

Like, sure, we can dump him, be on the hook for his salary, and continue forward with two spots being filled by the Roberts/Hollowell/Flexen/whatever group of nothing instead of just one spot. Or we can phantom IL him, give him a few minor league innings, let him pitch in non-competitive spots for a while (like he has been) and see if there's anything left. 

[SpongeWorthy]

Just now, squally1313 said:

Since March until tonight, 10 innings, zero earned runs, one unearned run, 6 hits (1 in his prior 6 innings), 3 walks, 0.00 ERA, 3.16 FIP, 4.30 xFIP. And, in my opinion, clearly not considered the closer or even a top option.

Like, sure, we can dump him, be on the hook for his salary, and continue forward with two spots being filled by the Roberts/Hollowell/Flexen/whatever group of nothing instead of just one spot. Or we can phantom IL him, give him a few minor league innings, let him pitch in non-competitive spots for a while (like he has been) and see if there's anything left. 

i would like to try the option where we act like a team that expects to be good

[javy knows my name]

So, continue to pitch him in medium-leverage spots and not overreact to one bad outing

[squally1313]

Just now, SpongeWorthy said:

i would like to try the option where we act like a team that expects to be good

Well you're in luck, because we're playing at a 96 win pace with the rest of schedule being significantly easier than what we've been through so far. So it follows that at least a large portion of the team is acting that way. 

In the last 2 weeks, nine relievers have pitched more innings than Ryan Pressly. There's an argument he's at the bottom of the pecking order right now (or, at most, he's the 6th guy out of the pen tonight). Yes, it would be wonderful to have 8 shut down relievers that all throw 98. But over here in reality, the bottom of the pen is ideally filled with guys who you hope could turn into reliable contributors at some point later on in the season. So the question becomes, who is more likely to do that, the guy who's been a sub-4.00 ERA guy for essentially ever, or....Gavin Hallowell?

[SpongeWorthy]

4 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Well you're in luck, because we're playing at a 96 win pace with the rest of schedule being significantly easier than what we've been through so far. So it follows that at least a large portion of the team is acting that way. 

In the last 2 weeks, nine relievers have pitched more innings than Ryan Pressly. There's an argument he's at the bottom of the pecking order right now (or, at most, he's the 6th guy out of the pen tonight). Yes, it would be wonderful to have 8 shut down relievers that all throw 98. But over here in reality, the bottom of the pen is ideally filled with guys who you hope could turn into reliable contributors at some point later on in the season. So the question becomes, who is more likely to do that, the guy who's been a sub-4.00 ERA guy for essentially ever, or....Gavin Hallowell?

over in management shillville i realize that having pressly in the first place and these being best fixes look like the best options but a better world is possible 

Edited May 7, 2025 by SpongeWorthy

[squally1313]

2 minutes ago, SpongeWorthy said:

over in management shillville i realize that having pressly in the first place and these being best fixes look like the best options but a better world is possible 

'Was this a bad pickup' and 'should we cut/banish him forever' are two different conversations. He's here, and we can either hide him (which we've been doing pretty successfully) or lose him. In my mind, the other options aren't better.

[SpongeWorthy]

2 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

'Was this a bad pickup' and 'should we cut/banish him forever' are two different conversations. He's here, and we can either hide him (which we've been doing pretty successfully) or lose him. In my mind, the other options aren't better.

if we've been hiding him,

a) why is everyone so mad about tonight

and 

b) why should anyone give a horsefeathers how good his numbers have been lately

Edited May 7, 2025 by SpongeWorthy

[squally1313]

Just now, SpongeWorthy said:

if we've been hiding him,

a) why is everyone so mad about tonight

and 

b) why should anyone give a horsefeathers how good his numbers have been lately

a. I dont know!

b. Pitching better, if not 'well' in low leverage spots is a good sign?

[WhyCantWeWin]

I dont think they've been hiding him, they just haven’t really needed a closer lately because of all the runs the offense has been racking up.