Bears Week 2 at Texans: SNF on NBC

[minnesotacubsfan]

everytime I watch the Bears in primetime the past few years, I feel like Robert Pattinson's character in The Lighthouse

me: I'm not going to drink

later me after several ****** offensive series: fine just one beer

1/2 way through the 3rd quarter no beer left?  I'll soften this karosene with some honey

next morning: (seagulls eating my liver )

Edited September 16, 2024 by minnesotacubsfan

[Wilson A2000]

45 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

If the Bears don't get the run game going against Indy they are in deep horsefeathers.  GB ran all over them, so did Houston.

 

I know that's captain obvious 

Buckner is probably out too

[WrigleyField 22]

The "Poles ignoring the line" critique is a weird one.  A top 10 pick, a $10M guard.  Several day 3 picks.

That plus the Rd 2 pick he inhereted, it's more of an execution critique than ignoring.

[SpongeWorthy]

2 hours ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

I'd like to see more downhill running (Velus+Herbert) and mix in PA, boots and extra blockers.  Put them in less 2 and 3 and longs.  Oh yea, the false starts too.

 

Caleb does have a decent rhythm to the short and quick pass game. If they can find a way to get more long plays in there hopefully his processing and footwork or whatever is wrong slows down and he makes the intermediate and deep field an actual threat. 

i don't think we've called a single PA or boot where 1 or more unblocked defenders weren't immediately crashing down on the QB. there haven't been a ton because we can't sustain drives but every single one has gotten blown up i think.

and there are not many QBs i'd take over caleb to trust to beat 1 unblocked defender on a PA or boot but the fact that they're crashing down so hard leads me to believe we just aren't fooling anyone at all

[Old Style]

3 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

The "Poles ignoring the line" critique is a weird one.  A top 10 pick, a $10M guard.  Several day 3 picks.

That plus the Rd 2 pick he inhereted, it's more of an execution critique than ignoring.

Well he didn’t fix the problem so you’re just splitting hairs. 

[Bobson Dugnutt]

4 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

The "Poles ignoring the line" critique is a weird one.  A top 10 pick, a $10M guard.  Several day 3 picks.

That plus the Rd 2 pick he inhereted, it's more of an execution critique than ignoring.

Is it weird?

 

When Poles took the job, he inherited an OL that desperately needed improvement.

The names he has brought in to improve OL via trade and FA: Lucas Patrick, Nate Davis, Ryan Bates, Coleman Shelton, Alex Leatherwood, Michael Schofield, Dan Feeney, and 34-y.o. Riley Reiff in the twilight of his career. Most of this list consists of depth lineman rather than starters, the exception being Nate Davis who he gave $10 million despite serious questions about his willingness to actually play football.

[WrigleyField 22]

11 minutes ago, Old Style said:

Well he didn’t fix the problem so you’re just splitting hairs. 

Maybe it's splitting hairs, but I've seen a lot of "ignore" and much less "he sucks" critiques.  Many teams have gotten better OL results from less.

[minnesotacubsfan]

ok...he sucks

now what

 

 

[Wilson A2000]

1 hour ago, Bobson Dugnutt said:

Is it weird?

 

When Poles took the job, he inherited an OL that desperately needed improvement.

The names he has brought in to improve OL via trade and FA: Lucas Patrick, Nate Davis, Ryan Bates, Coleman Shelton, Alex Leatherwood, Michael Schofield, Dan Feeney, and 34-y.o. Riley Reiff in the twilight of his career. Most of this list consists of depth lineman rather than starters, the exception being Nate Davis who he gave $10 million despite serious questions about his willingness to actually play football.

Were there questions on Nate Davis before Poles signed him?

Edited September 16, 2024 by Wilson A2000

[Brian707]

7 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

ok...he sucks

now what

 

 

Who sucks?

[minnesotacubsfan]

Just now, Brian707 said:

Who sucks?

Poles, at building an oline

 

 

[Bobson Dugnutt]

16 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Were there questions on Nate Dsvis before Poles signed him?

Yes, from what I’ve heard questions about his effort and commitment go back to his time in Tennessee.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I thought Davis was always a better run blocker than pass blocker fwiw - made more sense when JF was here

[Tim]

53 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

The "Poles ignoring the line" critique is a weird one.  A top 10 pick, a $10M guard.  Several day 3 picks.

That plus the Rd 2 pick he inhereted, it's more of an execution critique than ignoring.

And a third round pick this April.

[UK]

1 hour ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

I never felt that good about the Wright selection so him sucking is just annoying me a ton. Our offense is in big trouble if that OL continues like this. If the OL does belly-up and teams dominate TOP, our defense will get worn out. 

Agreed. It's too late to gripe but I loved Carter even with the warts.

[UK]

59 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

The "Poles ignoring the line" critique is a weird one.  A top 10 pick, a $10M guard.  Several day 3 picks.

That plus the Rd 2 pick he inhereted, it's more of an execution critique than ignoring.

Ignoring the line is incorrect.

Ineffective is correct.

[WrigleyField 22]

45 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

ok...he sucks

now what

 

 

Agreed

[WrigleyField 22]

Of all the pedantic moments on nsbb I didn't expect that to be the one to get the 

reaction 

[UMFan83]

10 minutes ago, Tim said:

And a third round pick this April.

Who I like, but in terms of building this year's line is not someone I expect to factor in given the injury and his rawness as a prospect  

So yeah it counts as something Poles has done to invest in the line, but doesn't answer what Poles has done to improve this year's line IMO.

[UMFan83]

 

 

[BigSlick]

I probably feel the least bad of any Bears fan after this game last night. I obviously don’t feel good but c’mon folks take a step back and look at this in the context of the whole season: they lost 19-13 to a very good team, on the road, the second game of the year, with a rookie QB. They have a pretty soft run going forward in the schedule.

Our defense, IMO, looks better than expected so far. The things that are concerning are primarily the run game and the OLine. (Which are worse than expected). Williams’s struggles are not unexpected nor do they entirely scare me. He’s going to hit on medium and deep balls going forward. His decision making so far is, on the whole, pretty good. Even if it wasn’t, I wouldn’t be in panic mode. Things could be a whole lot easier for him with better protection and some healthy receivers, but I expect that to improve (at least somewhat!) moving ahead.

im zen and patient about the whole thing 

[Tim]

1 minute ago, BigSlick said:

I probably feel the least bad of any Bears fan after this game last night. I obviously don’t feel good but c’mon folks take a step back and look at this in the context of the whole season: they lost 19-13 to a very good team, on the road, the second game of the year, with a rookie QB. They have a pretty soft run going forward in the schedule.

Our defense, IMO, looks better than expected so far. The things that are concerning are primarily the run game and the OLine. (Which are worse than expected). Williams’s struggles are not unexpected nor do they entirely scare me. He’s going to hit on medium and deep balls going forward. His decision making so far is, on the whole, pretty good. Even if it wasn’t, I wouldn’t be in panic mode. Things could be a whole lot easier for him with better protection and some healthy receivers, but I expect that to improve (at least somewhat!) moving ahead.

im zen and patient about the whole thing 

I'm not going to judge anything until they've gotten through at least four games. 

[BigbadB]

1 hour ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Buckner is probably out too

I felt like that was at least a 2 or 3 week injury for such a big guy. 

[WrigleyField 22]

Woof

 

 

[Soul]

I want to give the line a few more games before agreeing they're bad.  But it's just horrible watching them get beat silly.

Edited September 16, 2024 by Soul