Bears Week 2 at Texans: SNF on NBC

[minnesotacubsfan]

I just find it easy to express my disappointment with the Bears by aiming directly at the QB...because its worked and has been true my entire lifetime

 

Edited September 9, 2024 by minnesotacubsfan

[Old Style]

1 hour ago, Outshined_One said:

I think part of what's happening around the forum stems from certain posters being waaaaaaaaaaay too online, to the point that they're constantly bombarded with hawt taekz from bots and blue checkmarked redpill addicts, which consist of nothing but overreactions designed to generate clicks and the sort of racially-tinged nonsense that causes every dog within earshot to howl for hours on end.

I'd like to think that most of us in here know the difference between constructive criticism and hyperbole.  However, that nonsense can put a person on edge.

I have a couple friends that I have to periodically block on my phone during sports season because I can’t handle their ultra negativity. And of course during the game I was annoyed and saying stupid horsefeathers that even at the time I didn’t really mean but once the game is over (especially after a win) you think a lot more rationally. 

[Soul]

14 minutes ago, Old Style said:

I have a couple friends that I have to periodically block on my phone during sports season because I can’t handle their ultra negativity. And of course during the game I was annoyed and saying stupid horsefeathers that even at the time I didn’t really mean but once the game is over (especially after a win) you think a lot more rationally. 

I on the other hand am well-known for my level-headedness especially in the moment.  My post history illustrates this.

[CubinNY]

1 hour ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

I think people try to manage their feelings by finding people to attack.

"This is bad for my sports team. I don't want to feel bad about that. But if I yell at the people saying it's bad for my sport team, I'll feel better."

There are about 30 posts in a row moaning about the Bears, same story different day in that thread. It's ok, people can fan the way they want to fan. It's so melodramatic. 

It doesn't change the fact that the rookie laid an egg, but it's also over the top. Some of it is visceral emotion. 

[Hairyducked Idiot]

5 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

There are about 30 posts in a row moaning about the Bears, same story different day in that thread. It's ok, people can fan the way they want to fan. It's so melodramatic. 

It doesn't change the fact that the rookie laid an egg, but it's also over the top. Some of it is visceral emotion. 

If he had done well, we'd have 30 posts in a row talking about how great it is.  And it wouldn't bother you as much.

[CubinNY]

Just now, Hairyducked Idiot said:

If he had done well, we'd have 30 posts in a row talking about how great it is.  And it wouldn't bother you as much.

it doesn't bother me. 

[Wilson A2000]

Dodged a bullet. Hopefully Rome just misses a few games.

[Tryptamine]

I saw a way too early mockdraft that has the Bears taking RB Quinshon Judkins at #18 in the 2025 draft. Let's ignore for a moment that taking a RB in the first is not a great idea unless they're an omega prospect such Bijan Robinson, if that 1st round pick isn't used on OL or at worst DL, I'm going to lose my mind. It's so obvious where this team needs to invest.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

2 hours ago, Tryptamine said:

I saw a way too early mockdraft that has the Bears taking RB Quinshon Judkins at #18 in the 2025 draft. Let's ignore for a moment that taking a RB in the first is not a great idea unless they're an omega prospect such Bijan Robinson, if that 1st round pick isn't used on OL or at worst DL, I'm going to lose my mind. It's so obvious where this team needs to invest.

Why would we need to draft an RB when we have Ian Wheeler? /s

Obviously, no, we should never take a first-round RB.  And I agree OL and DL are obvious priorities.

I could maybe see LB or Safety too.  And as crazy as it sounds, I'm greedy and would take another WR if we really liked one at our pick.

[raw]

3 hours ago, Tryptamine said:

I saw a way too early mockdraft that has the Bears taking RB Quinshon Judkins at #18 in the 2025 draft. Let's ignore for a moment that taking a RB in the first is not a great idea unless they're an omega prospect such Bijan Robinson, if that 1st round pick isn't used on OL or at worst DL, I'm going to lose my mind. It's so obvious where this team needs to invest.

I will say, while I wouldn't take a RB in the 1st round, especially one similar to Swift, Judkins is the kind of back that is all the rage in the league right now and probably worth a 1st round pick, especially when you get down the 18. 

But yeah, I don't even know if the Bears can sign enough, or good enough free agents to pass up the trenches in Round 1 based on how things stand right now. 

[Tryptamine]

1 hour ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

Why would we need to draft an RB when we have Ian Wheeler? /s

Obviously, no, we should never take a first-round RB.  And I agree OL and DL are obvious priorities.

I could maybe see LB or Safety too.  And as crazy as it sounds, I'm greedy and would take another WR if we really liked one at our pick.

Safety is the one position that I could get over it if there was a guy they really loved.

[cwood218]

Any GM that drafts any RB in the first round 1.1 through 1.32 absolutely must be fired immediately. No exceptions. I don't care if you think you're drafting Barry Sanders etc. no RB is ever remotely close to being worthy of a first round pick. A select few might be worthy of a second round pick but that is questionable.  

 

 

Edited September 11, 2024 by cwood218

[Soul]

4 minutes ago, cwood218 said:

Any GM that drafts any RB in the first round 1.1 through 1.32 absolutely must be fired immediately. No exceptions. I don't care if you think you're drafting Barry Sanders etc. no RB is ever remotely close to being worthy of a first round pick. a select few might be worthy of a second round pick but that is questionable.  

 

 

I’d max out lower 3rd of the 1st round but only for a back who is superior in all 3 skills (run,catch,block).

[Sosa21MVP]

From watching Colts-Texans, one thing that stood out is the Colts were able to get behind the Texans defense on some deep routes. Richardson was able to hit on a couple of them, but he also had pretty good protection to let those plays develop. 

Texans dominated the TOP at a 2:1 ratio (40 minutes vs 20 minutes). 

Feels like a game that is bound to be a loss unless the offense gets it together quickly. Hoping to split these next two games. Indy is definitely beatable.

[Soul]

20 minutes ago, Sosa21MVP said:

From watching Colts-Texans, one thing that stood out is the Colts were able to get behind the Texans defense on some deep routes. Richardson was able to hit on a couple of them, but he also had pretty good protection to let those plays develop. 

Texans dominated the TOP at a 2:1 ratio (40 minutes vs 20 minutes). 

Feels like a game that is bound to be a loss unless the offense gets it together quickly. Hoping to split these next two games. Indy is definitely beatable.

Yeah I’m not expecting a win so I’ll be looking for areas of improvement from week 1.  Hopefully mostly improvement and not regression.

[CubinNY]

If the same things that Raw pointed out are happening again this week, it's time to fire up the hot seat on Eberflus. 

[NorthsideAvenger]

35 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

If the same things that Raw pointed out are happening again this week, it's time to fire up the hot seat on Eberflus. 

Not yet. 

[BigbadB]

12 hours ago, Sosa21MVP said:

From watching Colts-Texans, one thing that stood out is the Colts were able to get behind the Texans defense on some deep routes. Richardson was able to hit on a couple of them, but he also had pretty good protection to let those plays develop. 

Texans dominated the TOP at a 2:1 ratio (40 minutes vs 20 minutes). 

Feels like a game that is bound to be a loss unless the offense gets it together quickly. Hoping to split these next two games. Indy is definitely beatable.

Indy couldn't stop Mixon, which is probably the difference in the TOP being that much different. 30 carries for 160 yards. The Bears did a pretty good job containing Pollard outside of the one series they scored their first td. Pollard had 47 yards on 3 carries on that drive, leaving him with 13 carries for 35 yards for the rest of the game. 

Houston will be much tougher to stop in general since they are a much more balanced and talented offense, but I'm not sure Indy is a better team than the Bears on either side of the ball, and that's including Caleb going through his growing pains.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I thought the defense looked a little better than I expected in week 1.  Dexter is establishing himself as an adequate starting DT, and Taylor as a situational pass rusher is exactly what we needed.  I still think good qbs will exploit our non-cb1 secondary more than Will Levis can.

But I don't care if the defense struggles. In the 2020s nfl, you will sometimes need to win games where a good qb puts up 25+ on your defense. Hoping that never happens isn't a viable strategy.

Just give me some points and show me that week 1 was a fluke and Williams isn't always going to pee down his leg and spray balls in pressure situations.

Obviously i want him back asap, but I don't think we lose anything immediately with Odunze out.  Watching the film breakdowns has convinced me that Allen was a lot better Sunday than i initially gave him credit for, but Odunze was simply a non-factor.

 

 

 

[Brian707]

1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

If the same things that Raw pointed out are happening again this week, it's time to fire up the hot seat on Eberflus. 

If the defense plays as a top 10 defense this season the seat will never get hot. But if Caleb and the offense looks putrid for most of the season they need to move on next season, Caleb is too big of an asset. I know it would be the 3rd time in a row a new coaching staff comes in with a first round QB but you can't horsefeathers this up again.

 

Probably why they should have started over with someone new this season.

Edited September 11, 2024 by Brian707

[BigbadB]

24 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

I thought the defense looked a little better than I expected in week 1.  Dexter is establishing himself as an adequate starting DT, and Taylor as a situational pass rusher is exactly what we needed.  I still think good qbs will exploit our non-cb1 secondary more than Will Levis can.

But I don't care if the defense struggles. In the 2020s nfl, you will sometimes need to win games where a good qb puts up 25+ on your defense. Hoping that never happens isn't a viable strategy.

Just give me some points and show me that week 1 was a fluke and Williams isn't always going to pee down his leg and spray balls in pressure situations.

Obviously i want him back asap, but I don't think we lose anything immediately with Odunze out.  Watching the film breakdowns has convinced me that Allen was a lot better Sunday than i initially gave him credit for, but Odunze was simply a non-factor.

 

 

 

Kmet didn't get many snaps in that game, and he was pretty upset about it. I wasn't much of a fan of having Carter and Jones both active and Tyler Scott inactive. With Odunze possibly out this week, this would be a great week to sit Jones as further punishment for muffing that kick so badly. Indy beat Houston's secondary deep a few times, and in a game we may have to throw more if the defense can't hold Houston's offense, I'd like to see what Scott's development in year 2 looks like.

I want more competency at WR than Jones or Carter as 4th WR's. Houston is going to look at game tape and see how well the Bears special teams unit got excellent field position all day and make sure they kick out of the end zone, so I'd expect the return game to take a hit this week in Houston. 

[Hairyducked Idiot]

11 minutes ago, BigbadB said:

Kmet didn't get many snaps in that game, and he was pretty upset about it. I wasn't much of a fan of having Carter and Jones both active and Tyler Scott inactive. With Odunze possibly out this week, this would be a great week to sit Jones as further punishment for muffing that kick so badly. Indy beat Houston's secondary deep a few times, and in a game we may have to throw more if the defense can't hold Houston's offense, I'd like to see what Scott's development in year 2 looks like.

I want more competency at WR than Jones or Carter as 4th WR's. Houston is going to look at game tape and see how well the Bears special teams unit got excellent field position all day and make sure they kick out of the end zone, so I'd expect the return game to take a hit this week in Houston. 

I don't mind Jones out there, but I would definitely agree that I would rather have Scott than a special teams specialist out there as a WR.  He'll get his shot this week.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I don't see any scenario where Eberflus seat is even a little warm except maybe Williams balls out + defense collapses + another bad run of losing close games late.

[Wilson A2000]

2 hours ago, CubinNY said:

If the same things that Raw pointed out are happening again this week, it's time to fire up the hot seat on Eberflus. 

Looking at Eberflus’ record, he should be on the hot seat from week 1 this year. But I think that Poles likes him and the Bears probably don’t want to make a change this soon into Caleb’s tenure apart from a complete team collapse and losing the locker room and I don’t see that happening. 

[NorthsideAvenger]

9 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Looking at Eberflus’ record, he should be on the hot seat from week 1 this year. But I think that Poles likes him and the Bears probably don’t want to make a change this soon into Caleb’s tenure apart from a complete team collapse and losing the locker room and I don’t see that happening. 

That is why Flus' seat is NOT even warm right now, much less hot. So unless the Bears are something like 2-7 after 9, I don't expect Flus seat to be hot until possibly next season.