Chicago Bears preseason

[jersey cubs fan]

59 minutes ago, Bertz said:

 

 

Guess what a pimp with a Twitter account did now?

[Tryptamine]

1 hour ago, Bertz said:

 

 

It took me like 3 videos to be completely done with that QB School guy. He's so arrogant and he just hates certain guys for no reason and refuses to change his opinion. He still refuses to call Moore a WR1. It's like he's the football equivalent of Keith Law if Keith Law was also a minor league wash out.

[Wilson A2000]

The McCaskeys do approve of $@?#%*# the taxpayers over for the proposed new lakefront stadium though

[WrigleyField 22]

1 hour ago, Tryptamine said:

It took me like 3 videos to be completely done with that QB School guy. He's so arrogant and he just hates certain guys for no reason and refuses to change his opinion. He still refuses to call Moore a WR1. It's like he's the football equivalent of Keith Law if Keith Law was also a minor league wash out.

He also desperately needs an editor or director because he'd be putting out feature length films that could have been like 35 minutes, but he's groaning and throwing explicitives for 2/3 of it lol

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I watch all the QB review guys (the ones with actual expertise, it's starting to get flooded with every random dude on his couch buying all-22 access).  I like them all and I take them all with a grain of salt.

Chase Daniel is a massive cheerleader for every QB.  Kurt Warner just wants to talk about how he hates any slight change in how a play is called or run from when he was a player.   I think O'Sullivan is probably my favorite analysis-wise, you just have to skip through to the next play a lot because he will legitimately repeat himself on the same play 6-8 times.

The thing about Moore being a WR1 or not is like that stupid "ace" debate in baseball.  Is there 1 per team? Is it a smaller subgroup and there's only a few in the league? Do you need prototypical physical traits?  Blah blah blah, don't care.

The Williams tweet was just dumb twitter rage bait and he got rage baited right back.

I'm 3 plays into his Fields video for the week and we've already seen "missed multiple wide open receivers" followed by "wrong read on an RPO robs his RB of a chance to blow through a wide open hole" and then "Hops in place in the pocket on third down until the play collapses around him."  I'm not done enjoying people finally realizing who he is.
 

[We Got The Whole 9]

1 hour ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

I watch all the QB review guys (the ones with actual expertise, it's starting to get flooded with every random dude on his couch buying all-22 access).  I like them all and I take them all with a grain of salt.

Chase Daniel is a massive cheerleader for every QB.  Kurt Warner just wants to talk about how he hates any slight change in how a play is called or run from when he was a player.   I think O'Sullivan is probably my favorite analysis-wise, you just have to skip through to the next play a lot because he will legitimately repeat himself on the same play 6-8 times.

The thing about Moore being a WR1 or not is like that stupid "ace" debate in baseball.  Is there 1 per team? Is it a smaller subgroup and there's only a few in the league? Do you need prototypical physical traits?  Blah blah blah, don't care.

The Williams tweet was just dumb twitter rage bait and he got rage baited right back.

I'm 3 plays into his Fields video for the week and we've already seen "missed multiple wide open receivers" followed by "wrong read on an RPO robs his RB of a chance to blow through a wide open hole" and then "Hops in place in the pocket on third down until the play collapses around him."  I'm not done enjoying people finally realizing who he is.
 

Yet Wilson has been so blah that I'm more hopeful than ever we'll get a 4

[jumbo]

18 hours ago, mul21 said:

He made $750K last year and is slated to make $795K this year.  That doesn't excuse the owners making him pay that much, but it's not like he can't afford it.

He signed to a pretty handsome contract for a UDFA. This is what Spotrac says;

Tyson Bagent signed a 3 year , $2,720,000 contract with the Chicago Bears, including $25,000 signing bonus, $25,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $906,667. In 2024, Bagent will earn a base salary of $915,000, while carrying a cap hit of $923,333 and a dead cap value of $16,667.

$750k 2023 cash, $915k 2024 cash

Agree that its not crazy money for the guy

[jumbo]

8 hours ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

Yet Wilson has been so blah that I'm more hopeful than ever we'll get a 4

Yep, gotta get that 4

Right now, its 1, 2, 2, 3, 5, 6, 6, 6

 

[gflore34]

9 hours ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

I watch all the QB review guys (the ones with actual expertise, it's starting to get flooded with every random dude on his couch buying all-22 access).  I like them all and I take them all with a grain of salt.

Chase Daniel is a massive cheerleader for every QB.  Kurt Warner just wants to talk about how he hates any slight change in how a play is called or run from when he was a player.   I think O'Sullivan is probably my favorite analysis-wise, you just have to skip through to the next play a lot because he will legitimately repeat himself on the same play 6-8 times.

The thing about Moore being a WR1 or not is like that stupid "ace" debate in baseball.  Is there 1 per team? Is it a smaller subgroup and there's only a few in the league? Do you need prototypical physical traits?  Blah blah blah, don't care.

The Williams tweet was just dumb twitter rage bait and he got rage baited right back.

I'm 3 plays into his Fields video for the week and we've already seen "missed multiple wide open receivers" followed by "wrong read on an RPO robs his RB of a chance to blow through a wide open hole" and then "Hops in place in the pocket on third down until the play collapses around him."  I'm not done enjoying people finally realizing who he is.
 

I'm certain Poles knew about these, but, in a tank year, armed with two first round picks in the 2024 draft, he gave Fields a chance.  Don't believe it was the wrong thing to do unfortunately, for Justin, he regressed in the passing game thereby sealing his fate with the Bears.

[jersey cubs fan]

54 minutes ago, jumbo said:

Yep, gotta get that 4

Right now, its 1, 2, 2, 3, 5, 6, 6, 6

 

[David]

14 hours ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

I watch all the QB review guys (the ones with actual expertise, it's starting to get flooded with every random dude on his couch buying all-22 access).  I like them all and I take them all with a grain of salt.

Chase Daniel is a massive cheerleader for every QB.  Kurt Warner just wants to talk about how he hates any slight change in how a play is called or run from when he was a player.   I think O'Sullivan is probably my favorite analysis-wise, you just have to skip through to the next play a lot because he will legitimately repeat himself on the same play 6-8 times.

 

Those descriptions are spot on.  

There's also Tim Jenkins, who I easily find the least off-putting, but I'm not sure if he knows as much as some of the other guys.

[UK]

Nice opening drive by Bagent. I know it's X but I would trade Bagent for LV's 4th rounder in the hypothetical trade.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Dang, I turned the game on late and didn't even get to see Bagent, which was the only thing I cared about. I thought he looked really good in the pre-season up to this point, which is worth just barely north of nothing, but still.

I think his play last year is being a bit overrated, and he's getting some buzz because he's so likable on Hard Knocks, but underneath it all I think there's some long-shot upside there.  I think the arm strength could theoretically be unlocked with a significant improvement of mechanics, which isn't *completely* impossible.

 

[NorthsideAvenger]

59 minutes ago, UK said:

Nice opening drive by Bagent. I know it's X but I would trade Bagent for LV's 4th rounder in the hypothetical trade.

I would do it in the offseason. I rather have Bagent as backup over Rypien.

[WrigleyField 22]

9 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

Dang, I turned the game on late and didn't even get to see Bagent, which was the only thing I cared about. I thought he looked really good in the pre-season up to this point, which is worth just barely north of nothing, but still.

I think his play last year is being a bit overrated, and he's getting some buzz because he's so likable on Hard Knocks, but underneath it all I think there's some long-shot upside there.  I think the arm strength could theoretically be unlocked with a significant improvement of mechanics, which isn't *completely* impossible.

 

Yea his play last year is very much overrated. 

 

But I think he may have already improved his arm strength a tick. He doesn't need to have a cannon arm, just a little more zip and then get veteran smarts.

[WrigleyField 22]

7 minutes ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

I would do it in the offseason. I rather have Bagent as backup over Rypien.

Yea I'll take the backup play and slight chance at even stronger comp a couple years down the line.

[NorthsideAvenger]

46 minutes ago, WrigleyField 22 said:

Yea I'll take the backup play and slight chance at even stronger comp a couple years down the line.

Only way I'd move Bagent before the season is if the Bears are offered a third. Bagent is worth more to the Bears in 2024 than a 4th round pick.

[UMFan83]

This really isn’t based on any logic but I hate going undefeated in the preseason because it reminds me of how the 2 teams to go winless this millennium both went undefeated in the preseason. If the Bears go 0-17 you’ll remember this post 😂

[minnesotacubsfan]

0-17 HERE WE GO!!!!!

 

 

[bukie]

20 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

This really isn’t based on any logic but I hate going undefeated in the preseason because it reminds me of how the 2 teams to go winless this millennium both went undefeated in the preseason. If the Bears go 0-17 you’ll remember this post 😂

On the other hand, the Baltimore Ravens spent like 8 years blowing everyone out in every preseason game and they had some good seasons in that stretch.

[UMFan83]

3 minutes ago, bukie said:

On the other hand, the Baltimore Ravens spent like 8 years blowing everyone out in every preseason game and they had some good seasons in that stretch.

Shockingly, only the negative outcome will be considered in my head

[We Got The Whole 9]

Scott had a killer game as I was hoping he would and damn Deebo Jones, I see you.

[Derwood]

Bagent seems like one of the few competent backup QB's in the league (a fact that continues to blow my mind every season)

[We Got The Whole 9]

Wheeler suffered a knee injury. Would be a bummer end for that kid's preseason if it turns out to be serious.

[CubinNY]

9 hours ago, UMFan83 said:

This really isn’t based on any logic but I hate going undefeated in the preseason because it reminds me of how the 2 teams to go winless this millennium both went undefeated in the preseason. If the Bears go 0-17 you’ll remember this post 😂

I sense a bit of superstition here.