Spring Training Chit Chats

[Michael Busch Light]

37 minutes ago, The20thK said:

The Cubs don’t owe you, or anyone of your “handout” friends and family, anything.

 

I’ve never seen such a big group of crying little commies in my life. Always crying about the haves and claiming to be a have not… lol. Likely On your smart phones no less!! 
 

if it was up to you dopes, we’d be China. It’s insane!!! Haha

Tommy boy thinks fans are stupid and he’s correct about you 

[Sammy Sofa]

15 minutes ago, The20thK said:

Online Cubs fans when Ricketts doesn’t do what they want because they’re insignificant and haven’t a clue on how to run a ball club otherwise someone would hire them to do so… 

This latest version of Undercover Boss is weird, Todd.

[Michael Busch Light]

Trump has really brainwashed these fools into rooting for billionaires.  What a world 

[NOLA]

58 minutes ago, Bertz said:

Tell me about it!

Menu>Account>Ignored Users>Add to Ignored Users List.

Whether it’s Redflash or this schmuck, these guys exist to troll, condescend and “trigger” all us woke libtards.  It’s all they’ve got.  Don’t reward them.  And for god’s sake, stop quoting them in posts and this will be a more enjoyable experience.

I’ll go crawl back into my hole again.

Edited February 20, 2024 by NOLA

[Bobson Dugnutt]

my favorite part of any sports season is watching the commissioner hand the owner the trophy. my eyes well up every time the son of a billionaire hoists that piece of metal over his head. that’s what sports are all about.

[Rcal10]

Let’s please get back to baseball. I don’t even mind people disagreeing with me about either Smith or Peralta being the 26th man in the team this year when healthy. Anything is better than arguing about Ricketts. 

[Bobson Dugnutt]

57 minutes ago, The20thK said:

I’ve never seen such a big group of crying little commies in my life. Always crying about the haves and claiming to be a have not… lol. Likely On your smart phones no less!! 
 

tell me about it. all these whiny privileged dummies all seem to have the jump on today’s most cutting edge technology like smartphones and dvd players and gameboys and stuff. as for me, i’m a true have not, not one of those fake have nots. i’m posting this with a typewriter.

[LBiittner]

5 minutes ago, Bobson Dugnutt said:

my favorite part of any sports season is watching the commissioner hand the owner the trophy. my eyes well up every time the son of a billionaire hoists that piece of metal over his head. that’s what sports are all about.

My all-time favorite moment was watching the ring ceremony at Wrigley when the billionaires were smiley and giddy over passing out much deserved jewelry to the family faithful while wearing dungarees and sporty shoes

[LBiittner]

14 minutes ago, NOLA said:

 

I’ll go crawl back into my hole again.

Sounds painful 

[17 Seconds]

 

[NOLA]

4 minutes ago, LBiittner said:

Sounds painful 

Yoga helps.

[sneakypower]

1 hour ago, The20thK said:

The Cubs don’t owe you, or anyone of your “handout” friends and family, anything.

 

I’ve never seen such a big group of crying little commies in my life. Always crying about the haves and claiming to be a have not… lol. Likely On your smart phones no less!! 
 

if it was up to you dopes, we’d be China. It’s insane!!! Haha

what is this facebook boomer copypasta

[Brian707]

He's only has been watching the Cubs for 30 years. Not quite a boomer, probably an early millennial who is out of work blaming the libtards and the brown people for his failures in life rather than himself while getting that gubmint check and trolling internet message boards.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

This thread is peak internet, 2002.

[thawv]

Hahahaha...you guys are brutal!!  Funny stuff.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

9 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Let’s please get back to baseball. I don’t even mind people disagreeing with me about either Smith or Peralta being the 26th man in the team this year when healthy. Anything is better than arguing about Ricketts. 

One way of thinking about Smith and Peralta I saw elsewhere that I think is useful is that they are short term injury and DFA insurance.  At the start of the season you have a couple players who may not make the roster that you're comfortable calling up right away, but several others that are likely to be in the mix by Memorial Day whose development is best served by staying in Iowa.  Looking at this year's prospect mix there's a couple left handed hitters in particular that qualify in Caissie and Murray Jr. If Happ or Tauchman or Busch have a calf strain in April, Smith/Peralta may be useful short term fill ins, and how well they do in Spring Training informs if they're filling in at Iowa or in Chicago instead of e.g. Mastrobuoni or Mervis.  Speaking of Mervis, the other way you can think of this is as insurance if an addition has to bump an existing player off the 40 man.  If Tauchman or Mervis look terrible in ST or there's multiple additions where they make the most sense to be the ones DFA'd, you don't want to be left in a situation where doing something that everyone wants(e.g. signing Bellinger) leaves you with a hole when the inevitable happens and someone gets hurt, or goes on short term leave.  If those things don't come to fruition, it times up well where there's likely an opt out for Smith/Peralta around the time that the aforementioned prospects are more seriously in the MLB mix.

 

A final point I'd make here is that we shouldn't be so reflexive to think that low cost org depth as a thing that blocks players or is just cheaping out on bad production, it's an avenue for talent acquisition that they should try to take advantage of.  Tauchman(and before him Ortega, and before him Coghlan, and before him Valbuena) is a good example, sometimes a new org can unlock something and we shouldn't shy away from that just because the farm system is strong.  The Dodgers always have great prospect depth and more money than they know what to do with, and they gave 800 PA to Heyward and Peralta himself last year, and have used this archetype to plug holes in the short term(e.g. Trayce Thompson) and the longer term(Muncy, Turner) over the years.

[LBiittner]

3 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

One way of thinking about Smith and Peralta I saw elsewhere that I think is useful is that they are short term injury and DFA insurance.  At the start of the season you have a couple players who may not make the roster that you're comfortable calling up right away, but several others that are likely to be in the mix by Memorial Day whose development is best served by staying in Iowa.  Looking at this year's prospect mix there's a couple left handed hitters in particular that qualify in Caissie and Murray Jr. If Happ or Tauchman or Busch have a calf strain in April, Smith/Peralta may be useful short term fill ins, and how well they do in Spring Training informs if they're filling in at Iowa or in Chicago instead of e.g. Mastrobuoni or Mervis.  Speaking of Mervis, the other way you can think of this is as insurance if an addition has to bump an existing player off the 40 man.  If Tauchman or Mervis look terrible in ST or there's multiple additions where they make the most sense to be the ones DFA'd, you don't want to be left in a situation where doing something that everyone wants(e.g. signing Bellinger) leaves you with a hole when the inevitable happens and someone gets hurt, or goes on short term leave.  If those things don't come to fruition, it times up well where there's likely an opt out for Smith/Peralta around the time that the aforementioned prospects are more seriously in the MLB mix.

 

A final point I'd make here is that we shouldn't be so reflexive to think that low cost org depth as a thing that blocks players or is just cheaping out on bad production, it's an avenue for talent acquisition that they should try to take advantage of.  Tauchman(and before him Ortega, and before him Coghlan, and before him Valbuena) is a good example, sometimes a new org can unlock something and we shouldn't shy away from that just because the farm system is strong.  The Dodgers always have great prospect depth and more money than they know what to do with, and they gave 800 PA to Heyward and Peralta himself last year, and have used this archetype to plug holes in the short term(e.g. Trayce Thompson) and the longer term(Muncy, Turner) over the years.

Very well stated.

I can see Boras: should I feel threatened the Cubs have shifted and moved on from Belli to smith/Peralta? 

NOT / I'll call jeds bluff 

[Rcal10]

8 minutes ago, LBiittner said:

Very well stated.

I can see Boras: should I feel threatened the Cubs have shifted and moved on from Belli to smith/Peralta? 

NOT / I'll call jeds bluff 

I don’t think either signing was seen as a threat to Boras. And neither should be. I honestly thought either would be the last bat on the team. One more lefty on the team when healthy. My message may have come out wrong. I was not being doom and gloom suggesting this was all the Cubs are going to do. And I definitely don’t think this has anything to do with the Cubs going after another bigger bat. 

Edited February 20, 2024 by Rcal10

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Gonna lock this for a few hours to slow down the nonsense.

2 minutes ago, The20thK said:

Oh those poor multimillionaires working for “the man”…

 

maybe you can start a go fund me since they’re being taken advantage of? 

I think you've made pretty clear the contempt you have for the other side of your argument, and that's been made clear in the other direction by a number of people.  What we're not gonna do is have a near daily cycle of provocation and response that derails and devolves the conversation.  So you can either choose to ignore that nearly the whole community is not in your corner on this topic, or pick your battles more tactfully.  The status quo can't continue, and considering this argument has been you v. dozens of others in good standing, that would have a predictable outcome if we have to take action to prevent it from continuing.

[WhyCantWeWin]

I'm gonna slit my nuts if Peralta or Dom Smith see a single major league AB with the Cubs. Has Hoyer learned nothing from his crap signings from last year? Either sign the big stars or letting the horsefeathers kids play. Stop giving at bats to scrubs. 

[Rob]

13 minutes ago, WhyCantWeWin said:

I'm gonna slit my nuts if Peralta or Dom Smith see a single major league AB with the Cubs. 

JFC, TT locked this thread down so things would calm down here, and that's how you choose to start things back up? Nutslitting? Who the hell jumps straight to slitting their own nuts?

[Tryptamine]

So let's examine those poor unfortunate owners. Let's pretend for a moment that owners only manage to break even every year, they don't, but let's pretend. Ricketts bought the Cubs for 900M in 2009. In 2023, Forbes valued the Cubs at 4.1 billion dollars. That is 455.55% growth in 14 years, or an annual return of 32.5%. Basically they double their investment every 3 years even if they don't receive $1 in profit from the operations of the franchise. So forgive me if I'm not overly sympathetic to poor Tom Ricketts. 

Edited February 20, 2024 by Tryptamine

[SABR Gamer]

4 hours ago, The20thK said:

Oh those poor multimillionaires working for “the man”…

 

maybe you can start a go fund me since they’re being taken advantage of? 

Imagine your penis being this small.

Sorry, guys. I know I'm better than that but sometimes it's fun to talk horsefeathers back to idiots who wouldn't be able to comprehend the mature and thoughtful response. 

Edited February 20, 2024 by SABR Gamer

[Rcal10]

Just now, Tryptamine said:

So let's examine those poor unfortunate owners. Let's pretend for a moment that owners only manage to break even every year, they don't, but let's pretend. Ricketts bought the Cubs for 900M in 2009. In 2023, Forbes valued the Cubs at 4.1 billion dollars. That is 455.55% growth in 24 years, or an annual return of 18.9%. Basically they double their investment every 5 years even if they don't receive $1 in profit from the operations of the franchise. So forgive me if I'm not overly sympathetic to poor Tom Ricketts. 

Let’s not. Let’s talk baseball and stop this ridiculous baiting. 

[Tryptamine]

8 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

Let’s not. Let’s talk baseball and stop this ridiculous baiting. 

aww you caught me before I fixed the numbers