Chicago Bears offseason

[UMFan83]

25 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

All in all, not bad day for a Chicago sports fan, PCA breaks the seal as the Cubs complete the sweep of the Astros and the Bears have the NFL's best draft.

Blackhawks also locked up a good young defenseman on a solid deal. And the white Sox only lost by 3

[UMFan83]

Hook this to my veins

What the horsefeathers was all this horsefeathers about character concerns, the more I see and hear him the more likable he becomes

[bukie]

13 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Hook this to my veins

What the horsefeathers was all this horsefeathers about character concerns, the more I see and hear him the more likable he becomes

It's related to just how much time there is between the end of the football season and the start of the draft. People invent controversy just to pass the time.

[Brian707]

The schedule is being released in a couple weeks. I would imagine the NFL will put the Bears on SNF or MNF week 1. Washington is a scheduled team. Maybe that will be the match up. Caleb vs Daniels

Edited April 26, 2024 by Brian707

[Wilson A2000]

1 hour ago, Rex Buckingham said:

I'm just not sure how it could have realistically gone better for the Bears tonight so far

Only a Kevin Warren firing would be better

[Proven Veteran]

34 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Hook this to my veins

What the horsefeathers was all this horsefeathers about character concerns, the more I see and hear him the more likable he becomes

He has way more charisma than Fields or Mitch. I'm really hoping the Bears have their first superstar QB.

[jersey cubs fan]

7 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Only a Kevin Warren firing would be better

You’re a weirdo 

[Wilson A2000]

6 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

You’re a weirdo 

True, but my point still stands. Warren messed up the Big 10 TV deal, did that creepy "Day in the life of Kevin Warren" social media video, wants to bring the Bears back to the city to rent after buying Arlington Park, hasn't been good at all with the media, and is spearheading asking for a few billion dollars with a pastor by his side from the city. What exactly has Warren done well so far in his tenure? 

Edited April 26, 2024 by Wilson A2000

[NorthsideAvenger]

I am relieved that Poles did not overthink tonight. Caleb/Odunze is the absolutely best you could have hoped for tonight and Poles delievered. 

 

[jersey cubs fan]

Since Keenan Allen was essentially an insurance policy against the top receivers being gone when the bears picked at 9, would you trade him back for that 4th if you could?
 

He’s a nice guy to have, but he’s now pretty much guaranteed to be here for one year, since they have Moore and Odunze. You should be able to back fill the wr depth behind those two guys for the next 3 years without needing to pay too dollar for Keenan Allen’s retirement tour. 

[Tim]

1 hour ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Since Keenan Allen was essentially an insurance policy against the top receivers being gone when the bears picked at 9, would you trade him back for that 4th if you could?
 

He’s a nice guy to have, but he’s now pretty much guaranteed to be here for one year, since they have Moore and Odunze. You should be able to back fill the wr depth behind those two guys for the next 3 years without needing to pay too dollar for Keenan Allen’s retirement tour. 

I want Caleb to have all the tools to succeed right away. I'd hold onto Keenan for that value alone. 

Also, even top WR often take a year to grow in the NFL. Allen is one of the comps I've seen for Rome - having him on the team to learn from in year 1 is another big value.

I'd take those two things over a 4th round pick.

[Bertz]

1 hour ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Since Keenan Allen was essentially an insurance policy against the top receivers being gone when the bears picked at 9, would you trade him back for that 4th if you could?
 

He’s a nice guy to have, but he’s now pretty much guaranteed to be here for one year, since they have Moore and Odunze. You should be able to back fill the wr depth behind those two guys for the next 3 years without needing to pay too dollar for Keenan Allen’s retirement tour. 

A lot of very good WRs aren't necessarily monsters right out of the gate as rookies (someone like Ja'Marr Chase is still more exception than rule IMO), so having Allen for a year and letting him walk is kind of perfect.

Plus Keenan's apparently really great as like a player coach type. so I think there's real value having him around Williams and Odunze from a soft skills standpoint.

[jersey cubs fan]

15 minutes ago, Tim said:

I want Caleb to have all the tools to succeed right away. I'd hold onto Keenan for that value alone. 

Also, even top WR often take a year to grow in the NFL. Allen is one of the comps I've seen for Rome - having him on the team to learn from in year 1 is another big value.

I'd take those two things over a 4th round pick.

Yeah, I think I agree. I like the way Poles played this out. I’d rather have him for one year than whatever back up lineback they’d draft there. 

[mul21]

9 hours ago, jersey cubs fan said:

You’re a weirdo 

Not nearly as much of a weirdo as Kevin Warren.  

[minnesotacubsfan]

So, Caleb will wear 18? I’m seeing a bears FB post where he’s in his SC jersey, looks down and it changes to a bears 18 jersey. fun graphic non the less

[We Got The Whole 9]

2 hours ago, jersey cubs fan said:

Since Keenan Allen was essentially an insurance policy against the top receivers being gone when the bears picked at 9, would you trade him back for that 4th if you could?
 

He’s a nice guy to have, but he’s now pretty much guaranteed to be here for one year, since they have Moore and Odunze. You should be able to back fill the wr depth behind those two guys for the next 3 years without needing to pay too dollar for Keenan Allen’s retirement tour. 

I don't think he was that. He's a security blanket for a rookie WR. He is always open. It's gonna be hell on defenses to cover him and Moore and still be able to account for the other weapons. Caleb is walking into a dream situation.

[Brian707]

32 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

So, Caleb will wear 18? I’m seeing a bears FB post where he’s in his SC jersey, looks down and it changes to a bears 18 jersey. fun graphic non the less

Yes he will. 

 

Caleb Williams to wear No. 18 for the Chicago Bears – NBC Sports Chicago

Edited April 26, 2024 by Brian707

[UMFan83]

I’d still sign Keenan Allen to an extension. A short one that we can get out of it needed without too much damage but I’m not going to complain about 3 great WRs. The Texans have Diggs, Collins and Tank Dell. The Seahawks have Metcalf, Lockett and JSN. 
 

The only concern is when DJ Moore inevitably starts pushing for an extension due to being vastly underpaid. 

[jersey cubs fan]

10 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

I’d still sign Keenan Allen to an extension. A short one that we can get out of it needed without too much damage but I’m not going to complain about 3 great WRs. The Texans have Diggs, Collins and Tank Dell. The Seahawks have Metcalf, Lockett and JSN. 
 

The only concern is when DJ Moore inevitably starts pushing for an extension due to being vastly underpaid. 

The rookie qb contract does make it relatively easy to fit him in for a 2 year extension, but by the time Caleb’s next deal kicks in, only one of these three guys will fit in the cap, hopefully Odunze. 

[gflore34]

Love what Poles said when questioned about the Bears bad history at QB, not exact quotes, nevertheless, he said those days are over, got to stop going back all the time.  This whole narrative the Bears ruin QB's is such horsefeathers, what they have been guilty of is drafting QB's with un-fixable flaws.  I believe Williams is far less flawed than Trubisky and Fields, at the very least, he'll manage to be average.  The reason I believe in Williams is Bagent, Bagent has some physical limitations but, processing and speed of the game is not a problem for him.  That told me Poles knows what to look for in a QB.

[bukie]

Going into the draft I felt like there were maybe 5-6 blue chip top tier offensive players available to draft (Williams, Maye, Harrison, Alt, Odunze). For the Bears to get two of them without trading up or losing draft capital is outstanding.

For all the draft trading and positioning experts expected, it was a relatively calm top of the draft (aside from an insane amount of QBs drafted in the top 12, of which I don't know that even two are going to be successful).

If anything, I wish the Bears had a second rounder here because there are some high level defensive players around here for great value that nobody drafted while everyone went on an offensive skill player bonanza yesterday.

[UMFan83]

7 minutes ago, gflore34 said:

Love what Poles said when questioned about the Bears bad history at QB, not exact quotes, nevertheless, he said those days are over, got to stop going back all the time.  This whole narrative the Bears ruin QB's is such horsefeathers, what they have been guilty of is drafting QB's with un-fixable flaws.  I believe Williams is far less flawed than Trubisky and Fields, at the very least, he'll manage to be average.  The reason I believe in Williams is Bagent, Bagent has some physical limitations but, processing and speed of the game is not a problem for him.  That told me Poles knows what to look for in a QB.

It was always lazy analysis.  Unless you believe that the McCaskeys are the ones ruining QBs, there are no other constants in place for all these QBs.  Mark Hatley believing that Cade McNown was the answer at QB has nothing to do with Poles taking Caleb Williams.

The emotional fan side in me has a hard time envisioning a good Bears QB because we've just never seen it other than little flashes here and there, but logically there's no reason for Chicago to be a QB graveyard than just bad luck and bad GMs/coaches.

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[gflore34]

1 minute ago, UMFan83 said:

It was always lazy analysis.  Unless you believe that the McCaskeys are the ones ruining QBs, there are no other constants in place for all these QBs.  Mark Hatley believing that Cade McNown was the answer at QB has nothing to do with Poles taking Caleb Williams.

The emotional fan side in me has a hard time envisioning a good Bears QB because we've just never seen it other than little flashes here and there, but logically there's no reason for Chicago to be a QB graveyard than just bad luck and bad GMs/coaches.

That whole BS RG3 was spewing is a perfect example, him blaming Fields struggles on just the Bears was complete nonsense.

[jersey cubs fan]

It’s not just taking the wrong guy. They’ve taken the wrong guy and had the wrong coaches and the wrong teammates. 
 

Williams at least has a supporting cast of players. The coaching situation is questionable.