Glasnow To Dodgers, Pending Extension

[Jason Ross]

 

[CubinNY]

Ba-humbug

[ToolDRT]

We can blame Tom all we want, but if Theo were here I can almost guarantee we’d be in a better spot. He had balls and brains. Jed has neither. 
 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by ToolDRT

[JBears79]

Jed is busy penny pinching and seeing how he can not pay players 

[Derwood]

Maybe the Dodgers strategy is to have a dozen often hurt pitchers who they can cobble a rotation together from

[Irrelevant Dude]

29 minutes ago, Jfoley89 said:

Is anyone surprised that Jed is having another disappointing offseason?

Nope. Why would we be?  His only real credentials are being Theo and Tom's guy.

[gocubs218]

What does an extension even look like with him. 

[Irrelevant Dude]

Just now, gocubs218 said:

What does an extension even look like with him. 

Lots of money deferred to 2047, lowering his luxury tax AAV to $4.2M.

[Tryptamine]

Just now, Irrelevant Dude said:

Nope. Why would we be?  His only real credentials are being Theo and Tom's guy.

I don't recall him being very good with SD when he was the GM 

[Jason Ross]

So I'll say this: I actually think Jed Hoyer is a good GM. I think he's got a good vision in his head, and I think he's really good at identifying  margins-players. I think he can communicate his vision to others well. I think he's good at determining a market, and a value, and I think he's highly disciplined in that regards. My fear is that this is all Jed is, however, and that the thing he's missing is the thing Epstein had: he had the ability to get irrational about a player. Maybe to a fault (why I think Jed and Theo were a good pairing to begin with). If that's the case, then I still think Hoyer's a good GM...just maybe not for a large market team like the Cubs. There seems to be a hesitancy to go past that value in both trade and free agency, however. 

We'll see. I hope this is wrong. There's still time in 2023/24's offseason to change my perception of him.

[Irrelevant Dude]

3 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

I actually think Jed Hoyer is a good GM. I think he's got a good vision in his head, and I think he's really good at identifying  margins-players. I think he can communicate his vision to others well. I think he's good at determining a market, and a value, and I think he's highly disciplined in that regards.

I don't think he is particularly good at identifying "margins-players".  Just look at the guys he signed last year and the unnecessary dead money they created on the payroll.  In general though, I think Jed is a really smart guy and would be a very good GM in a vacuum, but unfortunately for him the other MLB teams don't operate in a vacuum.  In video game terms, he might dominate the single player mode, but he camps in a corner in multiplayer, afraid to make the wrong move and expose himself to enemy fire.

[Jason Ross]

6 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

I don't think he is particularly good at identifying "margins-players".  Just look at the guys he signed last year and the unnecessary dead money they created on the payroll.  In general though, I think Jed is a really smart guy and would be a very good GM in a vacuum, but unfortunately for him the other MLB teams don't operate in a vacuum.  In video game terms, he might dominate the single player mode, but he camps in a corner in multiplayer, afraid to make the wrong move and expose himself to enemy fire.

When I say margins, I mean more along the lines of building a really wonderful defense/speed team. Players who win on the margins. Sorry if that was unclear, I could have worded it better on second thought!

Edited December 15, 2023 by 1908_Cubs

[Bobson Dugnutt]

I, too, am very disappointed the Cubs didn’t acquire a guy that averages 66 (major league—I see you @We Got The Whole 9) IP per year.

[JHBulls]

3 minutes ago, Bobson Dugnutt said:

I, too, am very disappointed the Cubs didn’t acquire a guy that averages 66 (major league—I see you @We Got The Whole 9) IP per year.

He will probably pitch 200 innings in 2024 and … lose in the NLDS. 

Edited December 15, 2023 by JHBulls

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Just now, JHBulls said:

He will probably pitch 200 inning in 2024 and … lose in the NLDS. 

Wanna throw some money behind this lunacy?

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Rich Harden was an awesome trade for the Cubs because they already had Z, Lilly, and Demp. In a similar situation, Glasnow is a fun idea. He is not what this rotation needs and far from the make or break to the offseason y’all are making him out to be. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

 

 

[JHBulls]

3 minutes ago, Bobson Dugnutt said:

Wanna throw some money behind this lunacy?

Nah. I am not a betting man.

[Bertz]

21 minutes ago, Bobson Dugnutt said:

I, too, am very disappointed the Cubs didn’t acquire a guy that averages 66 (major league—I see you @We Got The Whole 9) IP per year.

Do...do you think he has a good chance of ending up back in the minors?

[Stratos]

2 hours ago, 17 Seconds said:

jed is a coward

I don't think that's it.  He just fired Ross and hired Counsell.  He was very aggressive there and that took a ton of balls.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

1 minute ago, Bertz said:

Do...do you think he has a good chance of ending up back in the minors?

Lay it out for me. What’s the point you’re trying to make? I love you Bertz…truly one of the most insightful posters on this board. But is your point that we should be considering 2017, damn near two whole presidential terms ago and a year when he was sent down for control issues, as relevant to the discussion? 

[ILMindState]

Hopefully he doesn't blow out his elbow signing his extension

[Stratos]

On the bright side, whatever pitcher we do sign now might have a chance to actually throw 170 IP.

[Stratos]

2 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Frankly, I’m a little confused why the Dodgers want to extend Glasnow given his health history. 

Buy low?

[gocubs218]

 

[Bobson Dugnutt]

If we’re being charitable I can pump it up to 78 IP per year, including habitual minor league stints, from 2018-2023.*

 

Were doomed!

Good for Glasnow though. Super glad for him he wound up in an organization renowned for keeping starting pitchers healthy.

 

*I’m drunk on a train so these numbers might be garbage.