Ohtani to Dodgers for an ungodly amount of money

[chibears55]

1 minute ago, David said:

seems relevant

Guess the honeymoon of the new owner is over, time to start making money over spending 🤷‍♂️😅

[17 Seconds]

mets fans have gotta be hurting right now, that's really bad

[David]

Just now, 17 Seconds said:

mets fans have gotta be hurting right now, that's really bad

I'm wondering if they hadn't already gotten a hard no from his camp, one way or another.  I vaguely remember Shohei having no interest in either NY team when he was posted (even though they always get brought up in these situations because NY).

[UMFan83]

Give PTR credit, at least he won a World Series before his revealed his true sinister intentions.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

25 minutes ago, 17 Seconds said:

mets fans have gotta be hurting right now, that's really bad

[UMFan83]

ESPN did an article with a couple of different ways to measure Ohtani's value for this offseason.  Not sure how valid these measurements are but found it interesting.  They also list the Cubs as one of 6 teams positioned to sign him:

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/38047971/shohei-ohtani-free-agency-calculator-2023

[Jason Ross]

Probably time to start keeping all Ohtani news in one place. 

Per Morosi: Ohtani is more concerned with quality of team over geography

[JD94]

5 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

Probably time to start keeping all Ohtani news in one place. 

Per Morosi: Ohtani is more concerned with quality of team over geography

We have to be pretty horsefeathers appealing then. Large market team, can market the hell out of his brand, plenty of money, almost a playoff team without a superstar like him, top 3 farm system based on whose list you use that’s only going to help moving forward via trades or supplementing big league needs, just hired arguably the best manager in baseball, already a Japanese presence on the team with Suzuki (that’s not a make or break thing, but you have to imagine that’s a big positive - it would be for me if I were going to Japan and the roles were reversed). It’s all there. Everything he could possibly want is here. 

[CubbyBlue2008]

9 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

Probably time to start keeping all Ohtani news in one place. 

Per Morosi: Ohtani is more concerned with quality of team over geography

So that means us or the Dodgers right? 

[Jason Ross]

Just now, CubbyBlue2008 said:

So that means us or the Dodgers right? 

Probably starts making a few teams less desirable. Maybe a team like SF is less interesting to Ohtani now, but could make a team like, the Yankees, more enticing. 

I'll say this: almost all of the news I've heard this offseason helps the Cubs. That the Cubs are aggressive. That the Cubs are willing to spend. That he may not want a super-long term contract and might prefer shorter term. That geography doesn't matter as many thought. If you wanted the news cycle to match up with giving you hope the Cubs could make this happen, than it's pretty much everything you'd ask for. We'll see where we go from here, but it's hard not to have legitimate hope, however fleeting it may be, that the Cubs could be in on this at the end.

[CubbyBlue2008]

21 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

Probably starts making a few teams less desirable. Maybe a team like SF is less interesting to Ohtani now, but could make a team like, the Yankees, more enticing. 

I'll say this: almost all of the news I've heard this offseason helps the Cubs. That the Cubs are aggressive. That the Cubs are willing to spend. That he may not want a super-long term contract and might prefer shorter term. That geography doesn't matter as many thought. If you wanted the news cycle to match up with giving you hope the Cubs could make this happen, than it's pretty much everything you'd ask for. We'll see where we go from here, but it's hard not to have legitimate hope, however fleeting it may be, that the Cubs could be in on this at the end.

Yeah I mean it all ties together. Especially when you tie in the reports of us wanting to spend and make a big trade or two. Tell that to Ohtani and it makes our situation super appealing. It also helps he loved our pitch the first time around. 
 

Let’s make it happen.

[CubbyBlue2008]

https://x.com/bleachernation/status/1724098678036607240?s=46&t=UF0SjM6FU9Bcmp3EVT4iMg

Promised Craig that we are getting Ohtani confirmed.

[Bertz]

I do sort of wonder if him being a longtime Angel will hurt the Dodgers.  Like Ohtani very much seems like a type to go out and conquer new worlds type.  Moving an hour up the coast may not be enough of a change for his big foray into free agency?

I do expect Shohei to end up on the West Coast ultimately.  Every team is going to be offering him the world, if you don't have to leave any money or competitive aspirations on the table why not choose somewhere that knocks 4 hours off of every trip to/from Japan?

[CubbyBlue2008]

12 minutes ago, Bertz said:

I do sort of wonder if him being a longtime Angel will hurt the Dodgers.  Like Ohtani very much seems like a type to go out and conquer new worlds type.  Moving an hour up the coast may not be enough of a change for his big foray into free agency?

I do expect Shohei to end up on the West Coast ultimately.  Every team is going to be offering him the world, if you don't have to leave any money or competitive aspirations on the table why not choose somewhere that knocks 4 hours off of every trip to/from Japan?

I’d imagine the trips to and from Japan won’t matter much, especially if it’s only a couple hours. For over half the year he’s gonna be stuck over here anyway. But who knows.

[JD94]

19 minutes ago, CubbyBlue2008 said:

I’d imagine the trips to and from Japan won’t matter much, especially if it’s only a couple hours. For over half the year he’s gonna be stuck over here anyway. But who knows.

Agreed. At worst, he’s going to be here 9/12 months of the year. I think being more comfortable here would be more important than an extra 4 hour flight now and then. 

[Dfan25]

Watched a video of the Morosi report and after saying that geography maybe won’t be as important this time , he says a team like the Cubs . 

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Not to derail, but an ORD to HND flight is maybe 90 minutes longer than LAX to HND in each direction.  Even JFK to HND would be maybe 2.5. When you're talking 12+ hour long flights, that's not a big deal.

[Bertz]

1 minute ago, Ding Dong Johnson said:

Not to derail, but an ORD to HND flight is maybe 90 minutes longer than LAX to HND in each direction.  Even JFK to HND would be maybe 2.5. When you're talking 12+ hour long flights, that's not a big deal.

Goes to show I should have checked instead of assuming since it's 3-4 hours from here to the West Coast a much further flight would hold onto most of that.

[pitchcs]

1 hour ago, Bertz said:

I do sort of wonder if him being a longtime Angel will hurt the Dodgers.  Like Ohtani very much seems like a type to go out and conquer new worlds type.  Moving an hour up the coast may not be enough of a change for his big foray into free agency?

I do expect Shohei to end up on the West Coast ultimately.  Every team is going to be offering him the world, if you don't have to leave any money or competitive aspirations on the table why not choose somewhere that knocks 4 hours off of every trip to/from Japan?

How often do you think he's going to be going to Japan?

[Tim]

3 hours ago, Bertz said:

I do sort of wonder if him being a longtime Angel will hurt the Dodgers.  Like Ohtani very much seems like a type to go out and conquer new worlds type.  Moving an hour up the coast may not be enough of a change for his big foray into free agency?

I do expect Shohei to end up on the West Coast ultimately.  Every team is going to be offering him the world, if you don't have to leave any money or competitive aspirations on the table why not choose somewhere that knocks 4 hours off of every trip to/from Japan?

 

2 hours ago, Bertz said:

Goes to show I should have checked instead of assuming since it's 3-4 hours from here to the West Coast a much further flight would hold onto most of that.

Just more proof the world isn't flat!

[CubinNY]

Just now, Tim said:

 

Just more proof the world isn't flat!

It's a pie-shaped disk!!!! 

The truth hurts. 

Sheeple

[javy knows my name]

3 hours ago, Bertz said:

Goes to show I should have checked instead of assuming since it's 3-4 hours from here to the West Coast a much further flight would hold onto most of that.

Well, it is but that has nothing to do with flying to China

[JD94]

Apparently Ohtani and his agent want to keep things very quiet during his process of picking a team. He doesn’t want the outside noise of everybody knowing which teams he meets with and all that. I imagine there won’t be many rumors leading up to his signing as far as specific teams and numbers and what not. They aren’t going to talk and I doubt the teams that are in it will talk and risk that hurting them signing him. 

[Jason Ross]

6 minutes ago, JD94 said:

Apparently Ohtani and his agent want to keep things very quiet during his process of picking a team. He doesn’t want the outside noise of everybody knowing which teams he meets with and all that. I imagine there won’t be many rumors leading up to his signing as far as specific teams and numbers and what not. They aren’t going to talk and I doubt the teams that are in it will talk and risk that hurting them signing him. 

In that vein, if there's something to give the Cubs credit here, they went about signing Seiya Suzuki in an incredibly quiet way. If Suzuki want's quiet, the Cubs under Hoyer have proven capable of that.

[CubinNY]

20 hours ago, 1908_Cubs said:

In that vein, if there's something to give the Cubs credit here, they went about signing Seiya Suzuki in an incredibly quiet way. If Suzuki want's quiet, the Cubs under Hoyer have proven capable of that.

They proved that with the manager search. I'd really love to know if Counsel didn't reach out to them and let them know he was interested in staying in the area. We will never know.