Ohtani to Dodgers for an ungodly amount of money

[CubinNY]

Just now, TomtheBombadil said:

Ricketts don’t care about one player contract messing up a decade+,  two rebuilds, and two CBAs worth of work to make The Future very cheap on the whole 

[muntjack]

1 hour ago, CubinNY said:

The Ricketts/Jed are not going to spend $50M a year on one player. It’s not going to happen. They will check in. They will make a bid. The bid will be well short of whatever he gets. Their mouth pieces, Lavine and Rogers will get out the good word and that will be that. 

Completely reasonable opinion. The Cubs have done that so many times. I just think they will actually go for this one.  

[CubinNY]

I have no idea what you are trying to say. 

[KCCub]

I’m afraid this will be true.

[Tryptamine]

The Mets Refugee insider is saying the gm is basically doing a mini rebuild with his sights on '25 because he doesn't think they're just a few pieces away. Don't be surprised if Verlander and Alonso are dealt.

[CubinNY]

Cubs will take Alonso. 

[JD94]

3 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

Cubs will take Alonso. 

I would give them a headliner of any prospect not named PCA or Horton. 

[Petrey10]

Cubs will not even come close to Ohtani. Mets are going to go all in off this “rebuild” they are doing now. 
 

if this means the Cubs somehow get Alonso tho it could be win win. 

[CubinNY]

From reading the national media, it doesn't look like Alonso is going to be traded. 

[JD94]

2 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

From reading the national media, it doesn't look like Alonso is going to be traded. 

Yeah there was a report early they would listen, but it’s been crickets on Alonso for a while now. Doesn’t sound like there’s much traction there to move him. 

[Rex Buckingham]

There's no reason they would move Alonso if they're going all in on Ohtani (which they will and should).  They're moving Scherzer and maybe Verlander only because they're old and making tons of money in what has become a lost season for them.  They actually saved money overall by paying $35M of Scherzer's money, because they end up saving even more in luxury tax dollars.

[UMFan83]

Fwiw apparently this Rogers was on ESPN 1000 this morning and said this

 

[Tryptamine]

8 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

Fwiw apparently this Rogers was on ESPN 1000 this morning and said this

 

ah yes, "saving their powder" ,  I feel like I've heard this a few times.

[CubUgly]

On 7/29/2023 at 1:37 PM, Brian707 said:

2024 is an election year and the Ricketts will have a ton of money tied up in terrible far right wing causes and candidates. This is nothing but a dog and pony show

Gordon.....is that you?😀

[CubinNY]

1 minute ago, CubUgly said:

Gordon.....is that you?😀

They're billionaires so they can do two things at once, but he's not wrong. I imagine Wrigley will host more than one pro-fascist fundraiser.  

[champaignchris]

On 7/29/2023 at 5:54 PM, KCCub said:

I’m afraid this will be true.

I felt a twinge in my elbow just reading this. 
 

would it be possible for Ohtani’s arm to literally fall off as he’s signing the Mets contract?

[Stratos]

If you're going to spend a mega wad of cash on a player, and the Cubs will probably only do that with one guy at any time, you do it with a guy like Ohtani.

The Cubs crunch the numbers, they don't spend based on emotion.  If the contract is worth the money for the production they project they'll receive over the length of the deal they'll do it.

The best team they (or any team) can build is one where they maximize the WAR per 230 million spent (or whatever their payroll is in a given year).

[Rcal10]

6 hours ago, Petrey10 said:

Cubs will not even come close to Ohtani. Mets are going to go all in off this “rebuild” they are doing now. 
 

if this means the Cubs somehow get Alonso tho it could be win win. 

I totally understand people being skeptical of reports the Cubs will go aggressive after Ohtani. They have not shown they would even dish out that sort of contract. However, if you believe Ricketts runs the team like a business and profit is the only thing he care about, signing Ohtani makes a lot of sense. Much more than any FA they haven’t gone after. Had they paid Turner does that bring in money? Nope. Same with Boegarts or Correa. But Ohtani brings bushel baskets of money. Between jerseys, tickets, and marketing he is a cash cow. He is the single best signing a guy motivated by money alone should make. While I still think it less likely they sign him that more likely, I do think they will be very aggressive. Just follow the money. 

[Tryptamine]

14 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

I totally understand people being skeptical of reports the Cubs will go aggressive after Ohtani. They have not shown they would even dish out that sort of contract. However, if you believe Ricketts runs the team like a business and profit is the only thing he care about, signing Ohtani makes a lot of sense. Much more than any FA they haven’t gone after. Had they paid Turner does that bring in money? Nope. Same with Boegarts or Correa. But Ohtani brings bushel baskets of money. Between jerseys, tickets, and marketing he is a cash cow. He is the single best signing a guy motivated by money alone should make. While I still think it less likely they sign him that more likely, I do think they will be very aggressive. Just follow the money. 

They'll give him an offer, it will just be about 5 years shorter than the rest of the offers.

[Rcal10]

16 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

They'll give him an offer, it will just be about 5 years shorter than the rest of the offers.

That is not going in aggressively. Again, I understand people thinking like they do. I just think Ohtani is different. I think they will go the years for him. He still might go elsewhere. But I think the cubs will bid to an uncomfortable level for them. 

[CubinNY]

22 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

I totally understand people being skeptical of reports the Cubs will go aggressive after Ohtani. They have not shown they would even dish out that sort of contract. However, if you believe Ricketts runs the team like a business and profit is the only thing he care about, signing Ohtani makes a lot of sense. Much more than any FA they haven’t gone after. Had they paid Turner does that bring in money? Nope. Same with Boegarts or Correa. But Ohtani brings bushel baskets of money. Between jerseys, tickets, and marketing he is a cash cow. He is the single best signing a guy motivated by money alone should make. While I still think it less likely they sign him that more likely, I do think they will be very aggressive. Just follow the money. 

They already fill Wrigely and the rest is split among all the teams. His pay will be close to 25% of the way to the LT. Tom is amongst the guys who pushed the hard LT through to the owners. He and Jed have said over and over that they don't believe you can win through free agency.  It would be so out of character for them to spend that kind of money on one player. 

[SOFNR]

1 minute ago, CubinNY said:

They already fill Wrigely and the rest is split among all the teams. His pay will be close to 25% of the way to the LT. Tom is amongst the guys who pushed the hard LT through to the owners. He and Jed have said over and over that they don't believe you can win through free agency.  It would be so out of character for them to spend that kind of money on one player. 

I think the chances of the Cubs getting Ohtani are somewhere close to zero. But if they did come to the conclusion he was a good business investment, they might sign him, order some salary dumps, and not sign another FA for the next decade. I think the biggest issue for them would be convincing Ohtani they'd work hard to build a winner around him. I think that's a hard sell from the Ricketts if they are dropping 50 mil a year on him already.

[Stratos]

1 hour ago, Rcal10 said:

I totally understand people being skeptical of reports the Cubs will go aggressive after Ohtani. They have not shown they would even dish out that sort of contract. However, if you believe Ricketts runs the team like a business and profit is the only thing he care about, signing Ohtani makes a lot of sense. Much more than any FA they haven’t gone after. Had they paid Turner does that bring in money? Nope. Same with Boegarts or Correa. But Ohtani brings bushel baskets of money. Between jerseys, tickets, and marketing he is a cash cow. He is the single best signing a guy motivated by money alone should make. While I still think it less likely they sign him that more likely, I do think they will be very aggressive. Just follow the money. 

It would be interesting to know how much extra revenue a big star like Ohtani brings in.  It could pay for some of the salary, I'm sure they'd factor that in.

[chibears55]

Trade Marquez, Mervis,  and Davis for Ohtani 😅

[David]

seems relevant