Bears Week 7 @ Patriots, Monday Night Football 10/24

[gflore34]

Always cracks me up when Belichick does this with bad teams. Love the fact that he brought up how dangerous Velus Jones is in the return game 4 different times.

 

 

Belichick wants the Bears to keep Velus Jones as the punt returner, and why wouldn't he want them to be duped into thinking he's dangerous (to the opposition)? He's dropped what, 2 of 6, or so, punts? I'd say Belichick is thinking that's an easy TO, I do not believe the Bears are going comply, at least, not on Monday night. I'm guessing they might give him a shot their next game at an indoor facility, if at all.

[Bertz]

[raw]

 

Trade Quinn, Montgomery (if not re-signing him), Smith (if not re-signing him), Reiff, whoever. Even 1 of those trades gets you to the top right quadrant. Trade them all and get in the top right corner by yourself. #PolesLeague

[Bertz]

 

Trade Quinn, Montgomery (if not re-signing him), Smith (if not re-signing him), Reiff, whoever. Even 1 of those trades gets you to the top right quadrant. Trade them all and get in the top right corner by yourself. #PolesLeague

 

He didn't say one way or the other either, but I believe the draft numbers are based on current record. So given that the Bears project to end up with a top 5 pick but right this second would be in the 5-10 range, they'll naturally drift upwards (potentially significantly) as the season progresses.

[jumbo]

 

Trade Quinn, Montgomery (if not re-signing him), Smith (if not re-signing him), Reiff, whoever. Even 1 of those trades gets you to the top right quadrant. Trade them all and get in the top right corner by yourself. #PolesLeague

 

He didn't say one way or the other either, but I believe the draft numbers are based on current record. So given that the Bears project to end up with a top 5 pick but right this second would be in the 5-10 range, they'll naturally drift upwards (potentially significantly) as the season progresses.

 

How are the Eagles not closer to the top in draft capital?

[WrigleyField 22]

 

Trade Quinn, Montgomery (if not re-signing him), Smith (if not re-signing him), Reiff, whoever. Even 1 of those trades gets you to the top right quadrant. Trade them all and get in the top right corner by yourself. #PolesLeague

 

He didn't say one way or the other either, but I believe the draft numbers are based on current record. So given that the Bears project to end up with a top 5 pick but right this second would be in the 5-10 range, they'll naturally drift upwards (potentially significantly) as the season progresses.

 

How are the Eagles not closer to the top in draft capital?

Yea I can't figure out the chart really. His draft chart values are published somewhere in his site, so you could try to recreate it, thought not sure what he's using for draft placement (current record only or current+projections)

 

Presumably there are pick ranges that provide more excess value, and it's maybe not linear because the cap hits aren't linear, so there could just be weird "cliffs" where cap hits drop off at a different rate than value cliffs?

 

Edit-actually I may be overthinking it, but I think maybe the NO pick draft slot just wasn't high enough before, the Eagles other picks are just really low with a 32 projected finish, and most the teams above them having lots of excess picks, even if a lot are mid rounders (though in some cases also plenty of excess high picks too)

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Today's fun fact: Justin Fields has yet to throw for multiple TDs and zero INTs in the same NFL game.

[WrigleyField 22]

Today's fun fact: Justin Fields has yet to throw for multiple TDs and zero INTs in the same NFL game.

That's the opposite of fun.

 

Anyways, I'm willing to accept some more Fields interceptions on a short term basis if it means he gets more reps throwing the ball during an acceptable window. But whether it's working through his mechanical changes to hone accuracy or just waiting on better teammates, there's gonna be poisons we are choosing between.

 

He's not gonna know what he can or can't trust til his throws more passes at the right point in his reads though.

[UMFan83]

Today's fun fact: Justin Fields has yet to throw for multiple TDs and zero INTs in the same NFL game.

I don't even remember him throwing multiple TDs in a game, but I guess it happened in the SF game and against GB last year.

 

I'm really not looking forward to watching this one though feel obligated because there are only 17 of these a year. I've been dealing with the flu for the last couple of days so I may just peace out if its looking bad early.

[Brian707]

If Mac Jones starts the Bears chances of victory improve from 5% to 10% imo

[WrigleyField 22]

If Mac Jones starts the Bears chances of victory improve from 5% to 10% imo

When I was poking around some advanced stats last week Zappe and Jones were pretty indistinguishable. Probably random variance explains most of the difference (though I have admittedly not watched their games).

[UMFan83]

I need Justin Fields to outscore Mac by 4.84 points to win my fantasy week. Which tells you all you need to know about the state of my fantasy team.

[WrigleyField 22]

I need Justin Fields to outscore Mac by 4.84 points to win my fantasy week. Which tells you all you need to know about the state of my fantasy team.

Obviously you have stars on every other slot on the roster.

[UMFan83]

I need Justin Fields to outscore Mac by 4.84 points to win my fantasy week. Which tells you all you need to know about the state of my fantasy team.

Obviously you have stars on every other slot on the roster.

 

It's a superflex league and 6 of my top 8 players are on bye or have been injured recently (Jefferson, AJ Brown, Miles Sanders, Patterson, Javonte, Penny). But cant use that excuse for QB, I gambled on Fields before the season as my QB2 and it has not worked out and a better option hasn't come around due to how deep the league is.

[raw]

I need Justin Fields to outscore Mac by 4.84 points to win my fantasy week. Which tells you all you need to know about the state of my fantasy team.

Obviously you have stars on every other slot on the roster.

 

It's a superflex league and 6 of my top 8 players are on bye or have been injured recently (Jefferson, AJ Brown, Miles Sanders, Patterson, Javonte, Penny). But cant use that excuse for QB, I gambled on Fields before the season as my QB2 and it has not worked out and a better option hasn't come around due to how deep the league is.

 

I feel like Fields isn't a terrible fantasy option. 47 rushing yards or more in 4 straight games. I mean, if you're starting 2 QBs, he's in the top 24. I have a league where Tom Brady is my QB1 and Mariota QB2. I'm hoping I can get Tua on waivers....that's how bad my team is.

 

**Though I did score the 2nd most points this week and lose by 3.5 points (thanks to 2 late INTs for the Miami D, effing Kenny Pickett)**

[UMFan83]

Obviously you have stars on every other slot on the roster.

 

It's a superflex league and 6 of my top 8 players are on bye or have been injured recently (Jefferson, AJ Brown, Miles Sanders, Patterson, Javonte, Penny). But cant use that excuse for QB, I gambled on Fields before the season as my QB2 and it has not worked out and a better option hasn't come around due to how deep the league is.

 

I feel like Fields isn't a terrible fantasy option. 47 rushing yards or more in 4 straight games. I mean, if you're starting 2 QBs, he's in the top 24. I have a league where Tom Brady is my QB1 and Mariota QB2. I'm hoping I can get Tua on waivers....that's how bad my team is.

 

**Though I did score the 2nd most points this week and lose by 3.5 points (thanks to 2 late INTs for the Miami D, effing Kenny Pickett)**

 

He's actually QB24 for the season in my league, so basically the lowest possible QB2 you can start in my league (though skewed by other QBs ahead f him having 7 games played). His point totals by week: 18, 9, 5, 10, 19, 20. The problem is that its a 6pt passing TD league and he only has 4 this year, so when comparing him to other QBs who actually throw TDs he looks worse off. The running obviously helps salvage a lot of his performances but he's not getting a lot of rushing TDs either.

 

As for tonight, the Patriots under BB have historically struggled to contain running QBs. However, I think they are going to sell out to contain him knowing that he won't beat them consistently with his arm. If that happens, it might be tough for him to get a ton of points tonight.

[raw]

 

It's a superflex league and 6 of my top 8 players are on bye or have been injured recently (Jefferson, AJ Brown, Miles Sanders, Patterson, Javonte, Penny). But cant use that excuse for QB, I gambled on Fields before the season as my QB2 and it has not worked out and a better option hasn't come around due to how deep the league is.

 

I feel like Fields isn't a terrible fantasy option. 47 rushing yards or more in 4 straight games. I mean, if you're starting 2 QBs, he's in the top 24. I have a league where Tom Brady is my QB1 and Mariota QB2. I'm hoping I can get Tua on waivers....that's how bad my team is.

 

**Though I did score the 2nd most points this week and lose by 3.5 points (thanks to 2 late INTs for the Miami D, effing Kenny Pickett)**

 

He's actually QB24 for the season in my league, so basically the lowest possible QB2 you can start in my league (though skewed by other QBs ahead f him having 7 games played). His point totals by week: 18, 9, 5, 10, 19, 20. The problem is that its a 6pt passing TD league and he only has 4 this year, so when comparing him to other QBs who actually throw TDs he looks worse off. The running obviously helps salvage a lot of his performances but he's not getting a lot of rushing TDs either.

 

As for tonight, the Patriots under BB have historically struggled to contain running QBs. However, I think they are going to sell out to contain him knowing that he won't beat them consistently with his arm. If that happens, it might be tough for him to get a ton of points tonight.

 

Ah yeah, that 6 pt passing TD isn't Fields friendly. I believe that I've read that Patriots historically struggle against running QBs, though.

 

Edit:

Lamar put up 107 on the ground against them this year.

[UMFan83]

Bears/Patriots quirk:

 

This is only the 5th time the Bears have faced the Patriots in New England. The Bears have never beaten the Patriots in New England.

 

The Bears and Patriots have been in the NFL together since 1970. The first 4 times the teams played (1973, 1979, 1982 and 1985) were all in Chicago. When the Bears played the Patriots in Super Bowl XX, it was the first time they played a Patriots team wearing their home jerseys. They did not end up playing their first game in New England until 1988. After 88, then 97, 06, 14 and now 22.

 

To compare with another AFC team, the Bears have been the road team against the Raiders 4 times since 2007, though one was in London, and the team relocated in the middle so 2 were in Oakland, 1 London, 1 Las Vegas.

[Bertz]

[Soul]

There's no way Patrick can be worse than Mustipher.

[UMFan83]

Not sure what to make of this

 

[Brian707]

Bears/Patriots quirk:

 

This is only the 5th time the Bears have faced the Patriots in New England. The Bears have never beaten the Patriots in New England.

 

The Bears and Patriots have been in the NFL together since 1970. The first 4 times the teams played (1973, 1979, 1982 and 1985) were all in Chicago. When the Bears played the Patriots in Super Bowl XX, it was the first time they played a Patriots team wearing their home jerseys. They did not end up playing their first game in New England until 1988. After 88, then 97, 06, 14 and now 22.

 

To compare with another AFC team, the Bears have been the road team against the Raiders 4 times since 2007, though one was in London, and the team relocated in the middle so 2 were in Oakland, 1 London, 1 Las Vegas.

 

2006- Brady deked Urlacher

2010- Terrible weather, a very good Bears team got destroyed by the Patriots

 

Oh and 2002 at U of I, The Bears actually almost beat the defending SB champs. I remember that terrible team.

 

I remember the 88 game, Bears were a good team and I think the Patriots sucked. I was so pissed but remembered the SB massacre was still a not so distant memory.

[WrigleyField 22]

There's no way Patrick can be worse than Mustipher.

Well he appears as bad at G and Musty is at C.

 

So hopefully he's a significantly better C than G.

 

I guess if he blocked the same and cleaned up a few of the snap issues you'd have 1 or 2 plays back a game maybe.

[WrigleyField 22]

Not sure what to make of this

 

Belichick is gonna rotate QBs every play to call in the plays like a pee wee team.

 

And still win by 20.

[minnesotacubsfan]

There's no way Patrick can be worse than Mustipher.

 

theres always a way