Bears week 6: Commanders on Thursday night

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in that baldy video, possibly my favorite part was when he slid over within the pocket in response to the pressure (rather than actually bailing running)

 

Yeah, just the week before he was bailing to the left, pressure or no pressure, and there was usually a DE waiting for him over there. He's never been big on stepping up in the pocket. So, it was amazing to see in just a week that he seemed to figure all that stuff out. If he can continue with that, I honestly think everything else will fall into place. Him being stationary back there probably affects timing, accuracy, ball placement, etc.

 

And yeah like minnesota said, this year to me was always about him being able/willing to take checkdowns and layup throws. Those plays like the Velus TD, and 30-yarder to Montgomery are plays that other QBs take with ease. He doesn't get hit on those plays, they move the ball, and he gets cheap stats that make his final line look pretty so we don't have to determine if he actually played well despite everything around him or not.

[Tryptamine]

I just realized, was the Minnesota game the first one of the season where Fields didn't have someone commit an unnecessary roughness penalty on him? I remember one slide and was actually surprised that he didn't take a helmet to helmet since it seems to happen every time.

[gflore34]

All the videos clearly illustrate the need for competency at center, if I'm able to notice, it must jump off the film to Poles, Eberflus, Getsy and the OL line coach. I'd say it's a far greater need than DT, is it possible to address in FA? If so, then it'll be fine if the Bears go DT with their top pick, just do not want to see the meathead defense, defense and, on offense throw something at the wall hoping it'll stick approach.

[jersey cubs fan]

[minnesotacubsfan]

a failed 1st rd T draft pick cant be worse than Sam Mustipher right? lets convert Leatherwood to C

[Tryptamine]

a failed 1st rd T draft pick cant be worse than Sam Mustipher right? lets convert Leatherwood to C

 

From everything I've read, the Raiders gave him way too many responsibilities and expected him to be the starter from day 1 when nearly every draft expert said he was a project pick that needed time. I'm actually pretty optimistic about him despite his performance last year.

[minnesotacubsfan]

a failed 1st rd T draft pick cant be worse than Sam Mustipher right? lets convert Leatherwood to C

 

From everything I've read, the Raiders gave him way too many responsibilities and expected him to be the starter from day 1 when nearly every draft expert said he was a project pick that needed time. I'm actually pretty optimistic about him despite his performance last year.

 

 

with the right coaching, it wouldn't surprise me to see him become a good starter. I just want someone to take over for Mustipher....immediately

[UMFan83]

I just realized, was the Minnesota game the first one of the season where Fields didn't have someone commit an unnecessary roughness penalty on him? I remember one slide and was actually surprised that he didn't take a helmet to helmet since it seems to happen every time.

 

He had 2 slides that I remember. One he actually did what looked like a real slide and I think I commented on it in the game thread, but the second one was your standard popup slide that has drawn so many flags. Looked like the Vikings were very conscious of this and backed off quickly.

[raw]

So, I don't have very much hope for Leatherwood. I understand the upside and I think he still has a chance to be a solid OL whether at RT or guard. But I think the worst thing for this team would be for him to play and show flashes. I just don't want them thinking they have a good lineman in Leatherwood only to not seriously upgrade whatever position they pencil him in at because they think they have something.

 

This was the year for experimenting with different OL in different spots to see what you have. But in 2023, they need sure things, or at least high upside talent early in the draft.

 

If Leatherwood plays himself into a starting spot, good. But even if he absolutely dominates, you're looking at at best a 1/2 season of performance when he's 100%. They are likely already going to be for sure starting Jones and Patrick somewhere in 2023 based on the insistence on them 2 being starters/splitting time at all costs. I'd hope Jenkins is at another spot, so that leaves 2 to upgrade. Leatherwood is not an upgrade on paper. So, if you're talking Jones, Patrick, Jenkins and Leatherwood as starters, that only leaves 1 position to upgrade. That means another season of at least 3 question marks in front of Fields. I'm fine with Jenkins, Jones and Patrick starting, but those other 2 spots better be legit upgrades.

[UMFan83]

Short week and bears are home underdogs to a 1 win team

 

 

Interesting that the line has shifted to a pick 'em, or Bears -0.5 in some places. I know Washington's best CB is likely to be out tomorrow so that may account for some of that shift

[minnesotacubsfan]

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2022/10/bears-commanders-tnf-justin-fields-can-save-us

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I am unreasonably confident that the bears win this game

[Have a seat, Neifi]

I am unreasonably confident that the bears win this game

Me too. I fear I've been sucked in by last week's record-setting 200-yard passing performance.

[bukie]

I am unreasonably confident that the bears win this game

I mean, there are probably less than a handful of teams I'd confidently say the Bears are better than right now, but the Commies are one of those teams.

 

EDIT: It might be Houston, Washington, and Detroit. So, convenient for this year's schedule.

[Bertz]

 

This is probably mostly small sample weirdness but still holy crap

[WrigleyField 22]

 

This is probably mostly small sample weirdness but still holy crap

Elite adjustments.

[WrigleyField 22]

I am unreasonably confident that the bears win this game

Fields is getting his first 300 yard passing game tonight.

 

 

Another 100 yards is getting dropped.

[raw]

I am unreasonably confident that the bears win this game

Fields is getting his first 300 yard passing game tonight.

 

 

Another 100 yards is getting dropped.

 

For a normal team, they'd win in a beautiful offensive performance, perfectly building off of last week and Justin Fields will never turn back on his road to QB eliteness. But this is the Bears, and a QB. I won't count on the Bears winning until they actually start playing winning football more consistently, this team as constructed isn't capable of that.

[UMFan83]

I am unreasonably confident that the bears win this game

Fields is getting his first 300 yard passing game tonight.

 

 

Another 100 yards is getting dropped.

 

For a normal team, they'd win in a beautiful offensive performance, perfectly building off of last week and Justin Fields will never turn back on his road to QB eliteness. But this is the Bears, and a QB. I won't count on the Bears winning until they actually start playing winning football more consistently, this team as constructed isn't capable of that.

 

I want to believe the plan is to slowly give Fields more and more to do each week, assuming he is up to the challenge (and dependent on game situation). I still expect a run first game plan with 18-25 pass attempts from Fields. The only way he gets more is if Washington takes a good size lead and the Bears have to throw, similar to Pittsburgh last year which is his career high in passing yards with 291.

 

I'm a bit nervous for this one. Not because the outcome is all that meaningful, but coming off a solid performance on Sunday, I really want to see another step forward, even if its small, and am scared about the possibility of seeing a regression even though its entirely possible and won't change his outlook too much.

[BigSlick]

I'm not confident the Bears are gonna win this, especially on short rest. I'm anticipating some pretty sloppy football from both teams.

 

The one thing I really wish for is better Oline play. I'm feeling more confident that Fields can play pretty well if he gets a modicum of protection. If he's under pressure all day he (like many non-elite and elite QBs) falls into poor patterns. If he is to be a top of the line QB, though, he's gotta figure out how to be at least *non-catastrophic* with crummy protection.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'd like to say that I would be unhappy with anything less than 300 yards and 3tds from Fields tonight, but considering how Poles built this team I'd be happy with just a win.

[UMFan83]

Speaking of odds Fields throws for a "big" total tonight

 

 

+750 that he throws 250 yards is insane.

[raw]

Fields is getting his first 300 yard passing game tonight.

 

 

Another 100 yards is getting dropped.

 

For a normal team, they'd win in a beautiful offensive performance, perfectly building off of last week and Justin Fields will never turn back on his road to QB eliteness. But this is the Bears, and a QB. I won't count on the Bears winning until they actually start playing winning football more consistently, this team as constructed isn't capable of that.

 

I want to believe the plan is to slowly give Fields more and more to do each week, assuming he is up to the challenge (and dependent on game situation). I still expect a run first game plan with 18-25 pass attempts from Fields. The only way he gets more is if Washington takes a good size lead and the Bears have to throw, similar to Pittsburgh last year which is his career high in passing yards with 291.

 

I'm a bit nervous for this one. Not because the outcome is all that meaningful, but coming off a solid performance on Sunday, I really want to see another step forward, even if its small, and am scared about the possibility of seeing a regression even though its entirely possible and won't change his outlook too much.

 

Well, I did say that the Vikings game reminded me of the SF game. Mediocre first half, followed by great 2nd half including the go-ahead scoring drive. Complete with highlight reel run, even though this one didn't count. And the Pittsburgh game was the following week last year to his SF breakout. This one's also in primetime like PIT was. And the last time the Bears played Washington in primetime was the Trubisky 3 TDs to Taylor Gabriel game and a big 31-15 win. So, hoping for more of the same isn't unprecedented.

[BigSlick]

Speaking of odds Fields throws for a "big" total tonight

 

 

+750 that he throws 250 yards is insane.

I don't know how gambling odds works, does that mean if I wager $100 on Fields throwing for 250 yards I would win $750 ?

 

Because if so that seems like a pretty smart bet, I mean, pretty great payout, I think he's a better 13.3% chance to hit that

[UMFan83]

Speaking of odds Fields throws for a "big" total tonight

 

 

+750 that he throws 250 yards is insane.

I don't know how gambling odds works, does that mean if I wager $100 on Fields throwing for 250 yards I would win $750 ?

 

Because if so that seems like a pretty smart bet, I mean, pretty great payout, I think he's a better 13.3% chance to hit that

 

Yep, that's what it means