Bears week 3: Lovie returns noon on CBS

[jersey cubs fan]

The 0-1-1 Texans look for their first win under Lovie Smith.

The bears offense looks to show up for the first time under Eberflus, while the defense looks to bounce back from a very soft game against GB. If you don’t win this one, things are going to get very ugly, very quickly.

 

Bears are 2.5 - 3 point favorites depending on where you look.

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Please throw forward passes.

[Soul]

OK. First game under Eberflus that the Bears are "supposed" to win.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I hope fields balls out and if not then I hope we lose for the epic meltdown potential.

 

The worst case scenario is winning 17-13 with fields going 8-for-13 for 120 yards or some dumb line like that

[UMFan83]

Russell Wilson was 14-31 for 219 yards, 1/1 and a 66.4 QB rating last week. Not sure if the Texans pass D is any good or if this is an anomaly though.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Russell Wilson was 14-31 for 219 yards, 1/1 and a 66.4 QB rating last week. Not sure if the Texans pass D is any good or if this is an anomaly though.

 

they have two young stud DB's. This wont be an easy win and I suspect a lot of Monty and Herbert

[Proven Veteran]

Russell Wilson was 14-31 for 219 yards, 1/1 and a 66.4 QB rating last week. Not sure if the Texans pass D is any good or if this is an anomaly though.

 

they have two young stud DB's. This wont be an easy win and I suspect a lot of Monty and Herbert

 

That's frustrating, because winning doesn't matter for the Bears. They need to know if Fields in the guy.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Russell Wilson was 14-31 for 219 yards, 1/1 and a 66.4 QB rating last week. Not sure if the Texans pass D is any good or if this is an anomaly though.

 

they have two young stud DB's. This wont be an easy win and I suspect a lot of Monty and Herbert

 

That's frustrating, because winning doesn't matter for the Bears. They need to know if Fields in the guy.

 

well, we'll have two young DB's to really test him. With any luck and Fields talent, maybe JF lights them up. that would obv help to understand if he's the guy. Also, I wouldn't drop all of Fields development on this game..or any one game for that matter. Like I said in the other thread, I'd give it at least until week 7 before I felt like I could see a pattern of any kind

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Saw someone post on Twitter that the Bears have 15 passing completions through 2 games, which is the fewest team completions through 2 games dating back to the year 2000. Not great.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Saw someone post on Twitter that the Bears have 15 passing completions through 2 games, which is the fewest team completions through 2 games dating back to the year 2000. Not great.

 

gee...I wonder if its our young QB or lack of WR talent (?)

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Saw someone post on Twitter that the Bears have 15 passing completions through 2 games, which is the fewest team completions through 2 games dating back to the year 2000. Not great.

 

gee...I wonder if its our young QB or lack of WR talent (?)

My answer is...yes.

[UMFan83]

Saw someone post on Twitter that the Bears have 15 passing completions through 2 games, which is the fewest team completions through 2 games dating back to the year 2000. Not great.

 

Add it to the list of Bears offensive futility. I swear that since I first remember watching the Bears regularly (1994) we've had about 10-12 offensive seasons that would be on most teams bottom 5 offensive seasons ever. Change the players, change the coaches, change the FO and we just cant figure out how to have any sort of success offensively, particularly passing offense. 70 passing yards in a game with good conditions would seem unfathomable to virtually any other NFL team, but for us its just another crappy offensive performance to throw on the pile. Every season's offense (except 2013 when the defense fell apart) can be broken down into one of 3 categories: Inexplicably pathetic, marginally passable, adequate but inconsistent (basically the Cutler years).

[minnesotacubsfan]

...I swear that since I first remember watching the Bears regularly (1994) ..).

 

 

i feel for those who never got to watch the Bears in the 1980's. If I had to rely on 1994+ as a basis for my fandom, I'd hate myself. the 80's had some awesome Bears teams, and it was still legal to horsecoller, and generally destroy opposing QB's. it was wonderful and the Bears were good at it

[Hairyducked Idiot]

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Is that bad? Seems bad.

[minnesotacubsfan]

somehow, espn thinks our pass blocking has been excellent?

 

https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1572246892720914432/photo/1

[CubinNY]

Bad and boring about sums it up.

[UMFan83]

 

Not making excuses for being bad overall but some of that might be affected by small sample size. We know Fields is capable of big time throws...that's supposed to one of this strengths but he hasn't done it so far this year for the most part. OK it definitely sounds like I'm making excuses.

[WrigleyField 22]

Bad and boring about sums it up.

Technically he is not anywhere near the boring quadrant. Just strictly bad.

[WrigleyField 22]

I can't remember the criteria for big time throws. Isn't a pretty strictly yardage thing or is it somehow one of those yards over expected metrics?

[WrigleyField 22]

Here is a little more info for BTT.

 

https://ontapsportsnet.com/bears/bears-justin-fields-average-rookie-qb-stats-comparison

 

Among rookies over the past 10+ years, Fields had the best Big Time Throw rate. Obviously that's only graded against other rookies, but yea hopefully that 10 game sample is way more representative than the 2 game sample.

 

Turnover worthy throws, meh as a rookie, but that's okay if the big throws are frequent enough.

[BigSlick]

I hope fields balls out and if not then I hope we lose for the epic meltdown potential.

 

The worst case scenario is winning 17-13 with fields going 8-for-13 for 120 yards or some dumb line like that

 

you have now spoken this into existence

 

(i'd be ok with this outcome if there are no INTs honestly)

[jersey cubs fan]

Saw someone post on Twitter that the Bears have 15 passing completions through 2 games, which is the fewest team completions through 2 games dating back to the year 2000. Not great.

 

Add it to the list of Bears offensive futility. I swear that since I first remember watching the Bears regularly (1994) we've had about 10-12 offensive seasons that would be on most teams bottom 5 offensive seasons ever. Change the players, change the coaches, change the FO and we just cant figure out how to have any sort of success offensively, particularly passing offense.

 

Dating back to 1994 they’ve had a defensive minded head coach in all but 6 seasons. The rest have all been defensive first and the bulk of those were guys in their final job, with minimal prior head coaching success. You can say they’ve changed coaches and still same results, but those changes have rarely shown a concerted effort to prioritize offense. It’s not some weird hex, it’s organizational but philosophy. Defense first. Maybe hire an offensive coach on occasion but if that fails go right back to defense first. We are back in a defense first situation and have to pray they magically find a qb or have a Ron Turner situation where the OC cobbles together a good season once or twice.

[WrigleyField 22]

Saw someone post on Twitter that the Bears have 15 passing completions through 2 games, which is the fewest team completions through 2 games dating back to the year 2000. Not great.

 

Add it to the list of Bears offensive futility. I swear that since I first remember watching the Bears regularly (1994) we've had about 10-12 offensive seasons that would be on most teams bottom 5 offensive seasons ever. Change the players, change the coaches, change the FO and we just cant figure out how to have any sort of success offensively, particularly passing offense.

 

Dating back to 1994 they’ve had a defensive minded head coach in all but 6 seasons. The rest have all been defensive first and the bulk of those were guys in their final job, with minimal prior head coaching success. You can say they’ve changed coaches and still same results, but those changes have rarely shown a concerted effort to prioritize offense. It’s not some weird hex, it’s organizational but philosophy. Defense first. Maybe hire an offensive coach on occasion but if that fails go right back to defense first. We are back in a defense first situation and have to pray they magically find a qb or have a Ron Turner situation where the OC cobbles together a good season once or twice.

 

I hope the current version of ownership is more balanced. All those seasons under an O coach happened once George took over from Michael and initially it was very concerted reason specifically for that change. Obviously they've still spent half the time with D coaches in that span, but I don't think D first is a concerted management mandate anymore either.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

Add it to the list of Bears offensive futility. I swear that since I first remember watching the Bears regularly (1994) we've had about 10-12 offensive seasons that would be on most teams bottom 5 offensive seasons ever. Change the players, change the coaches, change the FO and we just cant figure out how to have any sort of success offensively, particularly passing offense.

 

Dating back to 1994 they’ve had a defensive minded head coach in all but 6 seasons. The rest have all been defensive first and the bulk of those were guys in their final job, with minimal prior head coaching success. You can say they’ve changed coaches and still same results, but those changes have rarely shown a concerted effort to prioritize offense. It’s not some weird hex, it’s organizational but philosophy. Defense first. Maybe hire an offensive coach on occasion but if that fails go right back to defense first. We are back in a defense first situation and have to pray they magically find a qb or have a Ron Turner situation where the OC cobbles together a good season once or twice.

 

I hope the current version of ownership is more balanced. All those seasons under an O coach happened once George took over from Michael and initially it was very concerted reason specifically for that change. Obviously they've still spent half the time with D coaches in that span, but I don't think D first is a concerted management mandate anymore either.

 

 

the problem might be that Geo has NO idea how to prioritize coach selection