Chicago Bears offseason

[UMFan83]

Unsubstantiated rumor that the Bears are “very interested” in Fournette

 

https://sportsmockery.com/2020/08/rumor-bears-very-interested-in-leonard-fournette/

[minnesotacubsfan]

Fournette would be perfect

[raw]

Hate the Fournette idea.

[UMFan83]

Hate the Fournette idea.

 

Interested to know why, I don’t have a huge opinion either way

[We Got The Whole 9]

Hate the Fournette idea.

 

Interested to know why, I don’t have a huge opinion either way

Hes more built for the power scheme, would be my guess. Before last year I would have just said the same, that he's a North South bruiser and nothing more... but then he went and caught 76 passes after combining for 58 his first 2 years. He didn't turn out huge yardage with them or set a career high in catch rate, but thats still an added dimension to his game, proving there might be more untapped potential. His ypc also had a nice uptick. Im interested. I think he's overrated but we can surely use him.

[BigbadB]

$4.2m is dirt cheap for his production. And the starting running back could have a lingering injury all year if they rush him back to soon. I'm in favor of bringing him in. A change of scenery just might be what the doctor ordered.

[WrigleyField 22]

$4.2m is dirt cheap for his production. And the starting running back could have a lingering injury all year if they rush him back to soon. I'm in favor of bringing him in. A change of scenery just might be what the doctor ordered.

I don't know if I'd call 4.2m dirt cheap. But they probably won't claim him on waivers so it should be less than that as a FA.

[Derwood]

Hate the Fournette idea.

 

Interested to know why, I don’t have a huge opinion either way

 

I would be iffy about signing any RB who already has 3-4 seasons worth of mileage on his body. Fournette is at the low end of that range, but still, most RB's break down quickly

[Brian707]

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[We Got The Whole 9]

Hate the Fournette idea.

 

Interested to know why, I don’t have a huge opinion either way

 

I would be iffy about signing any RB who already has 3-4 seasons worth of mileage on his body. Fournette is at the low end of that range, but still, most RB's break down quickly

800 touches in 3 years is not a lot at all

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

 

Interested to know why, I don’t have a huge opinion either way

 

I would be iffy about signing any RB who already has 3-4 seasons worth of mileage on his body. Fournette is at the low end of that range, but still, most RB's break down quickly

800 touches in 3 years is not a lot at all

...it isn't?!

[We Got The Whole 9]

 

I would be iffy about signing any RB who already has 3-4 seasons worth of mileage on his body. Fournette is at the low end of that range, but still, most RB's break down quickly

800 touches in 3 years is not a lot at all

...it isn't?!

 

No, not really. David Montgomery had 267 which if done for 3 years would be 801. He was 12th in the NFL. I know times have changed. The red flag number used to be like 375 or so just a decade ago. But 265ish is far from being worrisome. In the same tier you'll find Jacobs, Hyde, Mack, Kamara - I don't see anyone worrying about their workloads.

 

2015 would be the last season that would fall into the top 10 (9th)

[raw]

Hate the Fournette idea.

 

Interested to know why, I don’t have a huge opinion either way

Hes more built for the power scheme, would be my guess. Before last year I would have just said the same, that he's a North South bruiser and nothing more... but then he went and caught 76 passes after combining for 58 his first 2 years. He didn't turn out huge yardage with them or set a career high in catch rate, but thats still an added dimension to his game, proving there might be more untapped potential. His ypc also had a nice uptick. Im interested. I think he's overrated but we can surely use him.

 

Yeah, he's not a fit for what the Bears want to do IMO. He's Jordan Howard, but 2-3 steps faster, which is good, but the Bears want to move to a more outside zone base scheme which requires quick lateral movement to hit the hole.

 

In addition, he's supposedly a bad locker room guy and I really don't want to take too much away from Montgomery, who will likely be ready by week 2 or 3 at the latest (week 1 still possible, as the Bears don't seem concerned enough to go get anyone). When you consider Cohen's going to get his touches and Patterson will get some gimmick stuff, i don't think there's enough carries there for someone used to getting 250+. Not that Montgomery is great or anything, but I don't think the Bears run enough to make Fournette worth the signing. If DM has to miss some time, can get away with 7-10 carries each from Cohen/Patterson for a game or two.

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

800 touches in 3 years is not a lot at all

...it isn't?!

 

No, not really. David Montgomery had 267 which if done for 3 years would be 801. He was 12th in the NFL. I know times have changed. The red flag number used to be like 375 or so just a decade ago. But 265ish is far from being worrisome. In the same tier you'll find Jacobs, Hyde, Mack, Kamara - I don't see anyone worrying about their workloads.

 

2015 would be the last season that would fall into the top 10 (9th)

I think I hear people worrying about how Kamara will hold up about once a week.

 

Someone that is ranking in what would be the top 15 in RB touches in the NFL, for three years running, is going to have a lot of wear on their tires. Now, just because things used to be even more ridiculous a decade ago doesn't mean that RBs are aging well. RB careers are getting shorter even as their number of touches on average has decreased. That's just because teams have wisened up and realize that young RBs just tend to be better because they have more thread left (there are contract consideration at play here as well). This is all relative, of course. Some RBs just aren't as banged up and injured. Some are talented enough that they are still better than the league average even as the dents accumulate. ...but I don't think Fournette is the second coming of Adrian Peterson. He's had a lot of north-south NFL carries.

 

I'd also say that Fournette isn't a great fit for a zone blocking scheme, but he still might be the best available option for the Bears at the moment.

[UMFan83]

lol...

 

[Derwood]

Fournette signed with the Bucs

[We Got The Whole 9]

...it isn't?!

 

No, not really. David Montgomery had 267 which if done for 3 years would be 801. He was 12th in the NFL. I know times have changed. The red flag number used to be like 375 or so just a decade ago. But 265ish is far from being worrisome. In the same tier you'll find Jacobs, Hyde, Mack, Kamara - I don't see anyone worrying about their workloads.

 

2015 would be the last season that would fall into the top 10 (9th)

I think I hear people worrying about how Kamara will hold up about once a week.

 

Someone that is ranking in what would be the top 15 in RB touches in the NFL, for three years running, is going to have a lot of wear on their tires. Now, just because things used to be even more ridiculous a decade ago doesn't mean that RBs are aging well. RB careers are getting shorter even as their number of touches on average has decreased. That's just because teams have wisened up and realize that young RBs just tend to be better because they have more thread left (there are contract consideration at play here as well). This is all relative, of course. Some RBs just aren't as banged up and injured. Some are talented enough that they are still better than the league average even as the dents accumulate. ...but I don't think Fournette is the second coming of Adrian Peterson. He's had a lot of north-south NFL carries.

 

I'd also say that Fournette isn't a great fit for a zone blocking scheme, but he still might be the best available option for the Bears at the moment.

It is just crazy to me that 15+ touches per game is when you start entering the danger zone now. Anyway its all moot as the Bears showed no interest in him. No biggie.

[jersey cubs fan]

Trubisky starting.

 

Now I sound smart when I said today he’d get the nod early and be replaced by Foles later

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Two bad QBs for the fans to argue over, an aging defense that used to be good enough to drag us to the playoffs but probably isn't anymore. An offensive line that needed more attention than it got.

 

I'm so tired of this season. I've seen this season at least 40 times and I'm only 38 years old.

[UMFan83]

I hope he has a short leash if he sucks

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A lot of normally even-keeled Bears bloggers flipping out over the QB decision. It kinda cracks me up.

 

All we've had to go on are beat writers who only saw half the practices and sparse highlights on who was "winning" the competition. The fact that it was reported that nobody had separated themselves and maybe Foles was slightly ahead by people who likely were rooting for Foles means very little.

 

A bunch of people butthurt because the Bears chose the younger below average QB over the older below average QB. The trade for Foles isn't any more of an indictment against Pace than it was when he traded for him. Sure he's getting paid 8M sit on the bench, but the alternative was to sit 9.6Mil on the bench. And they paid half of that for Daniel to not even be a realistic option in the midst of a failing season. Today's results don't make the trade better or worse that it was in April.

 

I also don't like the "short leash" stuff. If Mitch is benched after a half or 1 or 2 games, then it's an indictment on the entire coaching staff who very clearly made a terrible evaluation of its personnel which is a fireable offense. You made your bed, now lie in it. If whoever won the starting job needs to be benched at any point this season because of performance related issues, the season is probably already lost. The Titans are the exception, not the rule. And they still needed Tannehill to play at MVP level just to need help in Week 17 to get in. A performance related benching likely means multiple poor games, which means multiple losses. At that point, you're already behind the 8-ball because of those 2 losses. And Foles isn't likely to play at an MVP level long-term to overcome multiple losses either early or in the middle of the season.

[PackLandVA]

I hope he has a short leash if; he sucks

 

FIFY

[Bertz]

[Derwood]

 

That’s some 4D chess logic

[UMFan83]

 

That’s some 4D chess logic

 

Nagy is the king of 4D chess