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the best part of baseball is baseball happening, the worst part of baseball is the waiting around for baseball to happen; this reduces that some

 

The three batter minimum is the worst idea ever

It really is, it fundamentally changes things. LOOGY’s will become extinct.

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If you come out of a game before your limit for an injury, mandatory DL trip. Easy-peasy-lemon-squeezey.

 

Then pitchers can pitch thru a tweak to avoid a DL trip and injure themselves further

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Do you have to face 3 batters if you finish an inning after facing only 1 or 2 batters?

 

There's no real concrete details on how this would work...but we won't let that stop us from being sure how it will impact the game!

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If you come out of a game before your limit for an injury, mandatory DL trip. Easy-peasy-lemon-squeezey.

 

Then pitchers can pitch thru a tweak to avoid a DL trip and injure themselves further

 

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll happen to Bauer first.

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I didnt expect to be so deeply in the minority, but I really like the 3 batter minimum. Shortens game time/down time while also favoring more offense. Isnt that the stated goal of all these rule changes?

 

It probably won't shorten game time at all. Any time saved by not making a pitching change will be offset by a pitcher afraid to throw strikes to a guy he doesn't feel he can get out, and/or shenanigans teams will apply to get around the rule. And any rule that favors the offense does not cut time out of the game.

 

 

It's just such a pointlessly dumb rule.

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I didnt expect to be so deeply in the minority, but I really like the 3 batter minimum. Shortens game time/down time while also favoring more offense. Isnt that the stated goal of all these rule changes?

 

It probably won't shorten game time at all. Any time saved by not making a pitching change will be offset by a pitcher afraid to throw strikes to a guy he doesn't feel he can get out, and/or shenanigans teams will apply to get around the rule. And any rule that favors the offense does not cut time out of the game.

 

 

It's just such a pointlessly dumb rule.

 

Then we'll just make more rules for all the dumb stuff they pull. Pitch clock pitch clock pitch clock.

 

In before: If you ever make any pitcher throw a pitch before they've had several minutes to consider the philosophical ramifications, you're basically cutting their arm off.

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I didnt expect to be so deeply in the minority, but I really like the 3 batter minimum. Shortens game time/down time while also favoring more offense. Isnt that the stated goal of all these rule changes?

 

It probably won't shorten game time at all. Any time saved by not making a pitching change will be offset by a pitcher afraid to throw strikes to a guy he doesn't feel he can get out, and/or shenanigans teams will apply to get around the rule. And any rule that favors the offense does not cut time out of the game.

 

 

It's just such a pointlessly dumb rule.

 

Wait...Time saved from no pitching changes is offset by a pitcher being scared? I'm not telling you to love, or even like the rule...and the time saved may be pretty minimal...but that seems like a pretty flimsy argument.

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Eliminate between-innings warm-up pitches. Start new inning as fast as it takes for players to take the field from the dugout. Balance out the stress on pitchers arms by mandating they throw underhand. Significantly increase the size of the ball to encourage more balls in play. Reduce the size of the playing field. Replace all the players with cute athletic women with ponytails, but each team has one designated DH who is also cute but an absolute unit of a human being that only mashes HRs. Players perpetually do unity-building chants during play.
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I didnt expect to be so deeply in the minority, but I really like the 3 batter minimum. Shortens game time/down time while also favoring more offense. Isnt that the stated goal of all these rule changes?

 

It probably won't shorten game time at all. Any time saved by not making a pitching change will be offset by a pitcher afraid to throw strikes to a guy he doesn't feel he can get out, and/or shenanigans teams will apply to get around the rule. And any rule that favors the offense does not cut time out of the game.

 

 

It's just such a pointlessly dumb rule.

 

Wait...Time saved from no pitching changes is offset by a pitcher being scared? I'm not telling you to love, or even like the rule...and the time saved may be pretty minimal...but that seems like a pretty flimsy argument.

 

Claiming this will save time is much more flimsy. When was the last time the players association agreed to something MLB wanted that didn't wind up with unintended consequences?

 

Pitchers are going to pitch around more guys now, no question. If you force a manager to keep a guy in the game who he would rather replace. They aren't just going to rear back and throw him something to hit.

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I didnt expect to be so deeply in the minority, but I really like the 3 batter minimum. Shortens game time/down time while also favoring more offense. Isnt that the stated goal of all these rule changes?

 

It probably won't shorten game time at all. Any time saved by not making a pitching change will be offset by a pitcher afraid to throw strikes to a guy he doesn't feel he can get out, and/or shenanigans teams will apply to get around the rule. And any rule that favors the offense does not cut time out of the game.

 

It's just such a pointlessly dumb rule.

i don't even know that game duration is the issue, so much as big gaps of time where nothing horsefeathering happens and you gotta sit there and watch Bruce Bochy or whoever do their interminable waddle to the pitchers mound followed by eighteen meaningless warmup tosses before the same exercise gets repeated in two minutes after the new guy issues a walk

 

it's the worst part of baseball and nobody likes it

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I didnt expect to be so deeply in the minority, but I really like the 3 batter minimum. Shortens game time/down time while also favoring more offense. Isnt that the stated goal of all these rule changes?

 

It probably won't shorten game time at all. Any time saved by not making a pitching change will be offset by a pitcher afraid to throw strikes to a guy he doesn't feel he can get out, and/or shenanigans teams will apply to get around the rule. And any rule that favors the offense does not cut time out of the game.

 

It's just such a pointlessly dumb rule.

i don't even know that game duration is the issue, so much as big gaps of time where nothing horsefeathering happens and you gotta sit there and watch Bruce Bochy or whoever do their interminable waddle to the pitchers mound followed by eighteen meaningless warmup tosses before the same exercise gets repeated in two minutes after the new guy issues a walk

 

it's the worst part of baseball and nobody likes it

Some of that stuff is kinda fundamentally part of baseball though..... Nothing horsefeathering happens a lot of the time. Forcing pitchers to face 3 batters, at minimum, I don't see making things all that more aesthetically pleasing (especially if the guy comes in and sucks and you have to sit and watch some guy be wild and struggle or whatever). If a guy sucks, you should be able to pull him out of the game and replace him. Now I agree on the manager waddling, maybe don't have them come to the mound anymore and make the change from the bench by yelling out to the HP you are making a change/calling the pen to send a guy in. There you saved the fans from seeing managers waddle around without making up a new stupid rule.

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look if for some reason we are stupid enough to eschew all the cool popular media that exists today in lieu of watching men hit baseballs with a stick, we should be forced to watch fat managers tumble around the field making lineup changes.
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New murder doc on netflix but instead you got espn on? Here, you now have to watch Mike Matheny try to read his own handwriting for 5 minutes
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Three-batter minimum does not end with an inning or even the game ending. If you get the last out of the game, you have to start the next game and get at least two batters.

 

If you get the final out of the World Series, you have to face the first two batters on Opening Day for the next season. If the pitcher dies in the off season, the team is contracted (sorry, Cardinals)

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I’m kinda whatever on the three batter minimum

 

I’m just happy they didn’t ban the shift, which would have made me consider leaving baseball forever *

 

 

**i only deliver empty threats

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Three-batter minimum does not end with an inning or even the game ending. If you get the last out of the game, you have to start the next game and get at least two batters.

 

If you get the final out of the World Series, you have to face the first two batters on Opening Day for the next season. If the pitcher dies in the off season, the team is contracted (sorry, Cardinals)

 

You have to rig up a weekend at bernie's rig and keep him on your roster

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The most obvious and easy rule would have been to institute a pitch clock. Stop legislating around it and just do it.

 

Pitch clock, universal DH, call it a century. Just do it.

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The most obvious and easy rule would have been to institute a pitch clock. Stop legislating around it and just do it.

 

Pitch clock, universal DH, call it a century. Just do it.

 

Robot umps or bust

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No 3 batter minimum, rest of the rules are there though. Also added the rule to limit Dodger like roster manipulation for pitchers going to 15 from 10 days from calling a guy up after he goes down.

 

 

Major League Baseball and the players’ union are near an agreement to expand active rosters by one to 26 starting in 2020 as part of a deal that would include a commitment to discuss larger economic issues after opening day this year.

 

As part of the deal, the active limit from Sept. 1 to the end of the season would be lowered from 40 to 28 beginning next year, people familiar with the negotiations told The Associated Press. The people spoke on condition of anonymity because the agreement had not yet been finalized.

 

There would be a maximum of 13 pitchers for most of the season and 14 from Sept. 1 on, the people said. The minimum roster size would increase from 24 to 25.

 

The new 26-player maximum also would apply to the postseason.

 

The agreement also would include:

 

—increasing in the regular injured list minimum for pitchers and the minimum option recall time for pitchers from 10 to 15 days beginning in 2020.

 

—starting extra innings of the All-Star Game with a runner on second base.

 

—giving MLB the right to shorten between-inning breaks.

 

The union planned to reject MLB’s proposal for a three-batter minimum for pitchers, leaving MLB with the right to implement that unilaterally for 2020. Baseball Commissioner Rob Manfred has said he is reluctant to change playing rules without an agreement with players.

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The most obvious and easy rule would have been to institute a pitch clock. Stop legislating around it and just do it.

 

Pitch clock, universal DH, call it a century. Just do it.

 

Robot umps or bust

 

Future generations are going to wonder how the horsefeathers did they allow humans to call strikes/balls...

 

It's coming (automated K zone), but it's taking forever. Why can't we have a smart progressive Commish like Adam Silver?

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No 3 batter minimum, rest of the rules are there though. Also added the rule to limit Dodger like roster manipulation for pitchers going to 15 from 10 days from calling a guy up after he goes down.

 

 

As part of the deal, the active limit from Sept. 1 to the end of the season would be lowered from 40 to 28 beginning next year, people familiar with the negotiations told The Associated Press. The people spoke on condition of anonymity because the agreement had not yet been finalized.

 

There would be a maximum of 13 pitchers for most of the season and 14 from Sept. 1 on, the people said. The minimum roster size would increase from 24 to 25.

 

Well know we know the real reason Bruce Bochy is retiring after 2019.

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