9/21 - Cubs (Quintana) at White Sox (Lopez) 3:10 NBCSC

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I hope it ends with a title, but I'm ready for the season to be over. Now that we are good and we can expect good seasons, this has been my least favorite of the new era and I'm not having that much fun.

 

Yeah, my interest in what they do the rest of this season pretty much nosedived into the ground.

 

It's an interesting take and one I can understand. That said, we all knew or were pretty confident that Addison was an abuser and a shitty guy and most of us didn't like him, so not much has changed on that front for me to feel any differently about the team today as opposed to two days ago.

 

But I do understand Joe's reaction, etc., makes the interest/care go down or become nonexistent.

[Schwarber Fan]

Joe West is above the law

[Irrelevant Dude]

That strike 1 call was awful.

[UMFan83]

Hey if we win one of the next 2, we retain the Crosstown Cup so there’s that

[Hairyducked Idiot]

It's basically hockey season, who even cares.

[UMFan83]

Seriously this offense horsefeathering blows hard

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Seriously this offense horsefeathering blows hard

 

I'm going back to not watching the games. Since they blow more often than they don't, then I don't have to see them blowing, and when they do well, it's just as fun to come on here and read about it.

[Schwarber Fan]

Caratini sucks again

Rosario sucks again

Maples still sucks

[Perd]

Truly a banner day in Cubs history.

[Schwarber Fan]

We’re gonna have a position player pitch today.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

how did I find baseball more enjoyable when the cubs sucked all the time?

[Cubswin11]

Well, on to Saturday. Suck less idiots and go Rats

[UMFan83]

I want to go back to the days where I thought Schwarber was a budding superstar slugger, Bryant was going to be a top 3 MVP candidate annually, Russell was not a scumbag and would play like Larkin. Rarely do those things all turn out but sometime around November 2016 it all seemed pretty damn plausible.

[Cubswin11]

I want to go back to the days where I thought Schwarber was a budding superstar slugger, Bryant was going to be a top 3 MVP candidate annually, Russell was not a scumbag and would play like Larkin. Rarely do those things all turn out but sometime around November 2016 it all seemed pretty damn plausible.

The first two are still plenty plausible. Especially the KB thing.... he was MVP level before being hit in the head and the other injury and Schwarber is still plenty productive and I still think there’s more in there for him.

[Tryptamine]

I just don't get how outside of Baez and Zobrist, just about every single player fails to meet expectations offensively. Not a single player benefits from the HR explosion over the last couple years and now were about 2 or 3 games from being ranked 12th in runs scored.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

nah, they all suck now and never will not

[UMFan83]

I want to go back to the days where I thought Schwarber was a budding superstar slugger, Bryant was going to be a top 3 MVP candidate annually, Russell was not a scumbag and would play like Larkin. Rarely do those things all turn out but sometime around November 2016 it all seemed pretty damn plausible.

The first two are still plenty plausible. Especially the KB thing.... he was MVP level before being hit in the head and the other injury and Schwarber is still plenty productive and I still think there’s more in there for him.

 

Eh maybe. .720 OPS in the second half facing almost exclusively righties. He’s had his moments but he’s been pretty boom or bust for awhile now

[Cubswin11]

I want to go back to the days where I thought Schwarber was a budding superstar slugger, Bryant was going to be a top 3 MVP candidate annually, Russell was not a scumbag and would play like Larkin. Rarely do those things all turn out but sometime around November 2016 it all seemed pretty damn plausible.

The first two are still plenty plausible. Especially the KB thing.... he was MVP level before being hit in the head and the other injury and Schwarber is still plenty productive and I still think there’s more in there for him.

 

Eh maybe. .720 OPS in the second half facing almost exclusively righties. He’s had his moments but he’s been pretty boom or bust for awhile now

These second half samples shouldn’t matter more than other things. That OPS shouldn’t outweigh he’s still over .800 on the year and for his career and that includes his essentially rehab months in MLB in the first half last year. There’s a lot more things to pull from to project a low-mid .800 OPS guy moving forward with upside from that in there than making assumptions off this 2nd half sample here.

[chibears55]

I didn't know the Cubs had back to back days off...[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

 

Hope to see a better effort tomorrow

[UMFan83]

The first two are still plenty plausible. Especially the KB thing.... he was MVP level before being hit in the head and the other injury and Schwarber is still plenty productive and I still think there’s more in there for him.

 

Eh maybe. .720 OPS in the second half facing almost exclusively righties. He’s had his moments but he’s been pretty boom or bust for awhile now

These second half samples shouldn’t matter more than other things. That OPS shouldn’t outweigh he’s still over .800 on the year and for his career and that includes his essentially rehab months in MLB in the first half last year. There’s a lot more things to pull from to project a low-mid .800 OPS guy moving forward with upside from that in there than making assumptions off this 2nd half sample here.

 

Well I didn’t say he was worthless just wasn’t a budding superstar we once thought he was on the way to. If he’s an .820s OPS guy that’s fine but not exceptionally productive for a corner OF right? Could be wrong there

[abuck1220]

wish schwarber would have homered there so maddon would have looked like a moron for taking rizzo and zobrist out

[TMan92]

Maybe we shouldn’t have given up in the 6th

[Cubswin11]

 

Eh maybe. .720 OPS in the second half facing almost exclusively righties. He’s had his moments but he’s been pretty boom or bust for awhile now

These second half samples shouldn’t matter more than other things. That OPS shouldn’t outweigh he’s still over .800 on the year and for his career and that includes his essentially rehab months in MLB in the first half last year. There’s a lot more things to pull from to project a low-mid .800 OPS guy moving forward with upside from that in there than making assumptions off this 2nd half sample here.

 

Well I didn’t say he was worthless just wasn’t a budding superstar we once thought he was on the way to. If he’s an .820s OPS guy that’s fine but not exceptionally productive for a corner OF right? Could be wrong there

He’s tied for 7th best OPS of qualified LFs this year with Benintendi at .828 and 10 more points would put him top 5. I know we want more but a low-mid .800 ops is plenty productive in LF this year.

[Sammy Sofa]

These second half samples shouldn’t matter more than other things. That OPS shouldn’t outweigh he’s still over .800 on the year and for his career and that includes his essentially rehab months in MLB in the first half last year. There’s a lot more things to pull from to project a low-mid .800 OPS guy moving forward with upside from that in there than making assumptions off this 2nd half sample here.

 

Well I didn’t say he was worthless just wasn’t a budding superstar we once thought he was on the way to. If he’s an .820s OPS guy that’s fine but not exceptionally productive for a corner OF right? Could be wrong there

He’s tied for 7th best OPS of qualified LFs this year with Benintendi at .828 and 10 more points would put him top 5. I know we want more but a low-mid .800 ops is plenty productive in LF this year.

 

Sure, but a productive Just a Dude is still Just a Dude, and the hope was that he was going to be more than that. Plus is overall value this year is helped by likely unreliable defensive value. It's unfortunate that he had both such a catastrophic injury and such a down 2017, because it basically left the Cubs in the position to either sell way low or ride out and see what they had, and as such maybe not do things like go all out for a player Yelich.

[Cubswin11]

 

Well I didn’t say he was worthless just wasn’t a budding superstar we once thought he was on the way to. If he’s an .820s OPS guy that’s fine but not exceptionally productive for a corner OF right? Could be wrong there

He’s tied for 7th best OPS of qualified LFs this year with Benintendi at .828 and 10 more points would put him top 5. I know we want more but a low-mid .800 ops is plenty productive in LF this year.

 

Sure, but a productive Just a Dude is still Just a Dude, and the hope was that he was going to be more than that. Plus is overall value this year is helped by likely unreliable defensive value. It's unfortunate that he had both such a catastrophic injury and such a down 2017, because it basically left the Cubs in the position to either sell way low or ride out and see what they had, and as such maybe not do things like go all out for a player Yelich.

Oh for sure. But his bat is still good compared to the position is all I was trying to illustrate and he has pedigree to be better than this. Overall value considering everything like defense, sure he’s still just likely a dude who’s ceiling is 4 to 5 WAR but the bat is still pretty good compared to the position which is what I thought we were mostly talking about.

 

And again, like I said, we all want and hope for more..... but add Bryce along with KB, Rizzo, Javy you just need guys like Schwarber, Heyward, Willy, Zobrist to be regular ~2-3 war dudes to have a great offense and there’s still upside for some of those guys but they don’t NEED to be worth or depended on for more than a few wins