It turns out the real Yu Darvish was the friends we made in this thread

[Cubswin11]

I feel like the asking price for Archer is prohibitively high, otherwise he'd have been moved by now. I think it would cost the Brewers Santana plus 2-3 of their best remaining prospects. It would be a full buy-in move, and I don't believe it will happen.

 

Even if it did, I don't think it would change things a great deal.

Sterns and others in their FO did come from Tampa Bay so no doubt there’s some familiarity. But yes I’d guess it would be expensive and TB has been known to be tough to deal with in the past on guys on asking prices (which Sterns was there for a part of so I assume he knows what he’s getting in to/what makes them tick). Overall agree things don’t change a ton, it seems like they are trying to lock in last years performance with new guys this year that are knowing commodities. Yelich is a safe bet to make up Santana’s WAR, Cain is a safer bet than Broxton/Phillips in CF and Archer is a bet to make up for Nelson’s WAR since he’s hurt and/or Anderson regression.

 

Stearns was never in Tampa, right?

horsefeathers, he was the assistant GM in Houston. Idk why I thought he had TB ties.

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I feel like the asking price for Archer is prohibitively high, otherwise he'd have been moved by now. I think it would cost the Brewers Santana plus 2-3 of their best remaining prospects. It would be a full buy-in move, and I don't believe it will happen.

 

Even if it did, I don't think it would change things a great deal.

 

That Brewer guy seems to be money, though. If he said Archer is going to be a Brewer, I believe him.

 

well, all he said was that was his "personal guess" (yes, i am a sham of a person and i went to that board and looked for his posts)

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Sterns and others in their FO did come from Tampa Bay so no doubt there’s some familiarity. But yes I’d guess it would be expensive and TB has been known to be tough to deal with in the past on guys on asking prices (which Sterns was there for a part of so I assume he knows what he’s getting in to/what makes them tick). Overall agree things don’t change a ton, it seems like they are trying to lock in last years performance with new guys this year that are knowing commodities. Yelich is a safe bet to make up Santana’s WAR, Cain is a safer bet than Broxton/Phillips in CF and Archer is a bet to make up for Nelson’s WAR since he’s hurt and/or Anderson regression.

 

Stearns was never in Tampa, right?

horsefeathers, he was the assistant GM in Houston. Idk why I thought he had TB ties.

 

I do think he hired somebody from the Rays though. Either way, eff him and his team.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I feel like the asking price for Archer is prohibitively high, otherwise he'd have been moved by now. I think it would cost the Brewers Santana plus 2-3 of their best remaining prospects. It would be a full buy-in move, and I don't believe it will happen.

 

Even if it did, I don't think it would change things a great deal.

 

That Brewer guy seems to be money, though. If he said Archer is going to be a Brewer, I believe him.

 

well, all he said was that was his "personal guess" (yes, i am a sham of a person and i went to that board and looked for his posts)

 

Hey, I appreciate you guys relaying the info. I refuse to go on their message board due to my irrational hatred.

[David]

Brewer insider guy says he thinks, based on what he’s heard, Archer will be a Brewer and Darvish will not and Cobb will be their FA addition.

 

Well, that’s not great.

 

Yeah I would feel really bad for Archer. Finally gets traded and it's to another horsefeathers team.

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That Brewer guy seems to be money, though. If he said Archer is going to be a Brewer, I believe him.

 

well, all he said was that was his "personal guess" (yes, i am a sham of a person and i went to that board and looked for his posts)

 

Hey, I appreciate you guys relaying the info. I refuse to go on their message board due to my irrational hatred.

 

your hatred of the brewers is not irrational, your fear is

[Bryants Disco Ball]

 

well, all he said was that was his "personal guess" (yes, i am a sham of a person and i went to that board and looked for his posts)

 

Hey, I appreciate you guys relaying the info. I refuse to go on their message board due to my irrational hatred.

 

your hatred of the brewers is not irrational, your fear is

 

Haha. True that. Although I promised I would never publicly go there ever again, and I won’t.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Brewer insider guy says he thinks, based on what he’s heard, Archer will be a Brewer and Darvish will not and Cobb will be their FA addition.

 

Well, that’s not great.

 

Yeah I would feel really bad for Archer. Finally gets traded and it's to another horsefeathers team.

 

Even worse for him, he will now get beat down by the Cubs a lot more.

[ScrubMD]

It seems like if Archer could be had for mediocre major leaguers and non-elite prospects, he would have been moved in November. All the talk of how crazy high the asking price is, if that turns out to be Domingo Santana and a couple of Milwuakee’s remaining prospects, I’m going to be kind of pissed.

[toonsterwu]

If the Brewers pull off an Archer trade ... I've got to think the deal probably starts with Josh Hader. I guess I could squint and see something with Luis Ortiz in it as well. One of those two pitchers almost has to be involved, IMO. They do have the pieces to pull off a "respectable" trade for the Rays - you get an Ortiz or a Hader, a guy you can market as a possible TOR acquisition, and then you mix in maybe a young MLB player or some solid secondary pieces.

 

At the end of the day, comes down to what the Rays are looking for. If they want positional assets, not a lot of polished talent in the Brewers system to make it work as a headline piece.

[Bull]

 

Hey, I appreciate you guys relaying the info. I refuse to go on their message board due to my irrational hatred.

 

your hatred of the brewers is not irrational, your fear is

 

Haha. True that. Although I promised I would never publicly go there ever again, and I won’t.

In the new economy, lurking is not “going there.” Just don’t post.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

 

your hatred of the brewers is not irrational, your fear is

 

Haha. True that. Although I promised I would never publicly go there ever again, and I won’t.

In the new economy, lurking is not “going there.” Just don’t post.

 

Yu are right.

[BigbadB]

The real fascination at this point is that some team 3 months into the free agency process is all of a sudden going to wake up from a deep slumber and go all in on Darvish. With the early signees out of the way, he's been ripe for the taking for 2 solid months now and nothings happened. And if the Darvish signing is holding up many of the other offerings, this is just plain weird. I remember a handful of free agent signings during spring training in the past, but none seemed all that significant, like a major piece to a roster.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

The real fascination at this point is that some team 3 months into the free agency process is all of a sudden going to wake up from a deep slumber and go all in on Darvish. With the early signees out of the way, he's been ripe for the taking for 2 solid months now and nothings happened. And if the Darvish signing is holding up many of the other offerings, this is just plain weird. I remember a handful of free agent signings during spring training in the past, but none seemed all that significant, like a major piece to a roster.

 

I can think of one.

[BigbadB]

The real fascination at this point is that some team 3 months into the free agency process is all of a sudden going to wake up from a deep slumber and go all in on Darvish. With the early signees out of the way, he's been ripe for the taking for 2 solid months now and nothings happened. And if the Darvish signing is holding up many of the other offerings, this is just plain weird. I remember a handful of free agent signings during spring training in the past, but none seemed all that significant, like a major piece to a roster.

 

I can think of one.

 

Dexter. Guess I shouldn't have said none.

[Perd]

Still a few hours to give me a nice birthday present, Yu.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Still a few hours to give me a nice birthday present, Yu.

 

[treebird]

darvish is probably a nice guy and has every right to play wherever he wants, but i’m really going to hate his guts when he signs with the dodgers for whatever they can offer up.

[Cubswin11]

darvish is probably a nice guy and has every right to play wherever he wants, but i’m really going to hate his guts when he signs with the dodgers for whatever they can offer up.

Oh I’m ready to go all meatball “he’s a gutless choking dog, soft as horsefeathers, can’t pitch in a big game bum” as soon as he goes somewhere else

[Sammy Sofa]

Along those lines: Theo Epstein is a hero and a genius, but man, he drives me bonkers sometimes.

 

Maybe they have put an amazing offer out there and Darvish would just prefer somewhere else ad is waiting to see if those ideal locations can compete, but part of me can't help but buy these rumors/theories of Theo and co. trying to maximize contract efficiency and see it as trying to be too horsefeathering cute. Obviously, Darvish isn't going to make or break what is a really good team, but just go all in and bolster this [expletive] starting rotation already. Be a horsefeathering baller and crush dreams, dammit.

Edited February 2, 2018 by Sammy Sofa

[Cubswin11]

Along those lines: Theo Epstein is a hero and a genius, but man, he drives me bonkers sometimes.

 

Maybe they have put an amazing offer out there and Darvish would just prefer somewhere else ad is waiting to see if those ideal locations can compete, but part of me can't hep but buy these rumors/theories of Theo and co. trying to maximize contract efficiency and see it as trying to be too horsefeathering cute. Obviously, Darvish isn't going to make or break what is a really good team, but just go all in and bolster this [expletive] starting rotation already. Be a horsefeathering baller and crush dreams, dammit.

I don’t think it’s trying to be cute, efficient and smart, yes. I too wish they would say horsefeathers it and go to 6/150 or whatever it takes but also get why they likely haven’t. Theo knows he has him by the balls right now if he wants to go to a big market and a WS contender and likely has the near best offer out to him and it’s much closer to Theo’s terms than whatever terms Yu/Agent has dreamed up given the NY/LA market conditions. It’s an equally baller move to just sit back like a boss to not budge off the 4/90 (or whatever lowish offer we have out there) knowing it likely can’t be beat at the moment.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah, but that's a boring kind of baller that I don't enjoy as much vicariously. It's also much more prone to some lame team swooping in with a deal because they're desperate/stupid enough to do so. Just to use your hypothetical, just give him the horsefeathering 4/100 instead of 4/90.

[Tim]

I don’t think it’s trying to be cute, efficient and smart, yes.

Dude - semicolons are your friend.

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

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[Brian]

There are 3 starters looking for big money right now, at this point there aren't even 3 teams in a position to offer what they're looking for. Unless a couple of teams shed payroll Theo is still in the drivers seat.