It turns out the real Yu Darvish was the friends we made in this thread

[Bobson Dugnutt]

I'm getting on a plane for the next four hours so obviously this will go down while I'm in the air. The Butler trade happened the same way.

 

wow, i have no idea where i was when the cubs got eddie butler.

[UMFan83]

I'm getting on a plane for the next four hours so obviously this will go down while I'm in the air. The Butler trade happened the same way.

 

I'm not sure that flying during the NBA draft when it was by far the most likely time for Butler to be traded is proof that you have some sort of major news happening voodoo when flying.

 

(says the guy that loves to comment about things like 'team record when I attend games')

[Bluescale]

I keep reading articles regurgitating that the Brewers have been among the most aggressive in pursuing Darvish. Everyone's favorite say-nothing man, Heyman, had another article uttering something along those lines. What the hell does that even mean? Short of offering him the biggest offer (something we've heard nothing about yet), how are the Brewers any more aggressive than anyone else? Is Stearns calling him every few hours, asking if he's done washing his hair yet? Did someone put a horse head (with a Brewer's logo branded into the fur) in his bed?

[Cubswin11]

This account broke the Cain and Yelich moves, fwiw. May just be that Brewer board insiders account.

 

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[Bryants Disco Ball]

This account broke the Cain and Yelich moves, fwiw. May just be that Brewer board insiders account.

 

 

Which would seem to make more sense, unless they are ready to go into a team-high payroll area.

 

I suppose they could still empty the farm and get Archer.

[Cubswin11]

This account broke the Cain and Yelich moves, fwiw. May just be that Brewer board insiders account.

 

 

Which would seem to make more sense, unless they are ready to go into a team-high payroll area.

 

I suppose they could still empty the farm and get Archer.

Agree. Darvish or Jake put them at about their spending threshold historically under Antanosio. They have the pieces to do an Archer or lesser trade for Odorizzi, Corbin, Tehran, etc. and it’s probably the smarter move for them. Or they can wait until mid season/next offseason when the Jays realize they suck and want to move Stroman.

[Neuby]

One of the MLB network guys mentioned a valid point last night. The Brewers along with every team in baseball got $50M from the sale of BAMTech which could help ease payroll constraints.

[Guancous]

I'm getting on a plane for the next four hours so obviously this will go down while I'm in the air. The Butler trade happened the same way.

 

For a second I thought you meant Eddie Butler.

[Agony and Ivy]

One of the MLB network guys mentioned a valid point last night. The Brewers along with every team in baseball got $50M from the sale of BAMTech which could help ease payroll constraints.

 

I think it was more like $70m. But that's a one time payment, so I'm not sure that matters in the least.

[Agony and Ivy]

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This is absurd.

[Agony and Ivy]

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This is absurd.

 

Edit: I got got.

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

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This is absurd.

 

Edit: I got got.

 

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You didn't think that was a joke?

[Cubswin11]

The next person who posts anything from that doofus should be banned from the Transaction thread for a year

[treebird]

The next person who posts anything from that doofus should be banned from the Transaction thread for a year

 

agreed. i generally want to read every possibly useful rumor, but that guy can go to hell.

[Agony and Ivy]

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This is absurd.

 

Edit: I got got.

 

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You didn't think that was a joke?

 

Can I use tree’s significant other excuse?

[Neuby]

Neuby wrote:

One of the MLB network guys mentioned a valid point last night. The Brewers along with every team in baseball got $50M from the sale of BAMTech which could help ease payroll constraints.

 

 

I think it was more like $70m. But that's a one time payment, so I'm not sure that matters in the least.

 

 

https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2017/12/15/16781058/every-mlb-owner-50-million-windfall-2018

 

$50M

 

The Brewers being a small market club could therotically use that coin to cover overages on a $$$ free agent starter deal that wasn't already in the budget.

[David]

i'm pretty sure when that news broke it was also said that this was entirely expected and that teams had already been accounting for it for a long time.

[Agony and Ivy]

Neuby wrote:

One of the MLB network guys mentioned a valid point last night. The Brewers along with every team in baseball got $50M from the sale of BAMTech which could help ease payroll constraints.

 

 

I think it was more like $70m. But that's a one time payment, so I'm not sure that matters in the least.

 

 

https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2017/12/15/16781058/every-mlb-owner-50-million-windfall-2018

 

$50M

 

The Brewers being a small market club could therotically use that coin to cover overages on a $$$ free agent starter deal that wasn't already in the budget.

 

That's what was reported. Reality was they were expecting more like $70m. It's irrelevant to the pursuit oF free agents, unless, I suppose, they want to sign Darvish to a 1 year $50m deal.

 

$68m reported here.

[Cubswin11]

Brewer insider guy says he thinks, based on what he’s heard, Archer will be a Brewer and Darvish will not and Cobb will be their FA addition.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Brewer insider guy says he thinks, based on what he’s heard, Archer will be a Brewer and Darvish will not and Cobb will be their FA addition.

 

Well, that’s not great.

[Cubswin11]

Brewer insider guy says he thinks, based on what he’s heard, Archer will be a Brewer and Darvish will not and Cobb will be their FA addition.

 

Well, that’s not great.

I’m kinda low on Archer (recent velo dips, bicep or forearm issues I think, can’t get through and order 3 times, only has 2 pitches, gives up lots of hard contact), he’s no doubt good and makes them better but there’s some major red flags. Hopefully he costs them a ton like Santana and Hiura or Burnes or Woodruff and others prospects.

 

Should also add he mentioned the Brewers had a Darvish centered meeting today (internally, Darvish didn’t meet with them) with this news now about the targets/acquisitions I’d think they think they are out of it or are done pursuing him.

Edited February 2, 2018 by Cubswin11

[Thusly Boned]

I feel like the asking price for Archer is prohibitively high, otherwise he'd have been moved by now. I think it would cost the Brewers Santana plus 2-3 of their best remaining prospects. It would be a full buy-in move, and I don't believe it will happen.

 

Even if it did, I don't think it would change things a great deal.

[Cubswin11]

I feel like the asking price for Archer is prohibitively high, otherwise he'd have been moved by now. I think it would cost the Brewers Santana plus 2-3 of their best remaining prospects. It would be a full buy-in move, and I don't believe it will happen.

 

Even if it did, I don't think it would change things a great deal.

Sterns and others in their FO did come from Tampa Bay so no doubt there’s some familiarity. But yes I’d guess it would be expensive and TB has been known to be tough to deal with in the past on guys on asking prices (which Sterns was there for a part of so I assume he knows what he’s getting in to/what makes them tick). Overall agree things don’t change a ton, it seems like they are trying to lock in last years performance with new guys this year that are knowing commodities. Yelich is a safe bet to make up Santana’s WAR, Cain is a safer bet than Broxton/Phillips in CF and Archer is a bet to make up for Nelson’s WAR since he’s hurt and/or Anderson regression.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I feel like the asking price for Archer is prohibitively high, otherwise he'd have been moved by now. I think it would cost the Brewers Santana plus 2-3 of their best remaining prospects. It would be a full buy-in move, and I don't believe it will happen.

 

Even if it did, I don't think it would change things a great deal.

 

That Brewer guy seems to be money, though. If he said Archer is going to be a Brewer, I believe him.

 

But, yeah, I would assume it will take some of their remaining top prospects. Interested to see how much they will spend on Cobb.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I feel like the asking price for Archer is prohibitively high, otherwise he'd have been moved by now. I think it would cost the Brewers Santana plus 2-3 of their best remaining prospects. It would be a full buy-in move, and I don't believe it will happen.

 

Even if it did, I don't think it would change things a great deal.

Sterns and others in their FO did come from Tampa Bay so no doubt there’s some familiarity. But yes I’d guess it would be expensive and TB has been known to be tough to deal with in the past on guys on asking prices (which Sterns was there for a part of so I assume he knows what he’s getting in to/what makes them tick). Overall agree things don’t change a ton, it seems like they are trying to lock in last years performance with new guys this year that are knowing commodities. Yelich is a safe bet to make up Santana’s WAR, Cain is a safer bet than Broxton/Phillips in CF and Archer is a bet to make up for Nelson’s WAR since he’s hurt and/or Anderson regression.

 

Stearns was never in Tampa, right?