Cubs trade Eloy, Cease, others for Quintana

[Transmogrified Tiger]

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[Post Count Padder]

What. The. F---.

[Sammy Sofa]

[squally1313]

SOMEONE TELL ME HOW I SHOULD FEEL

[The_Achiever]

I like it but man I was excited for Eloy to come up and crush dongs.

[SRQCub]

Now let's figure out how to get Fulmer from Detroit, and let's make another run at the Championship.

[ZMovieman]

I mean, I'm excited. But I'm not sure how to feel. I'm ok with Eloy going, but I'd have preferred not to package Cease with him.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

SOMEONE TELL ME HOW I SHOULD FEEL

 

Sad about losing Eloy, very happy about getting Quintana

[javy knows my name]

I horsefeathering love this. We lose 0 major league talent for a top-20 pitcher with 3? more years of control

[Guancous]

Quintana is owed something like $35 million through 2020. I am okay with this.

 

http://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/jose-quintana-10660/

[Post Count Padder]

Like, I love getting Quintana. I don't love giving up both Eloy and Cease. Wish we could have at least gotten a secondary piece.

[Flames24Rulz]

I like it a lot. Nice to have a young starter who's under control for a while and who can make a difference in the second half of this year.

[mul21]

I like the concept of the deal but not sure I like the amount given up. Now somebody tell me why Quintana has been bad this year and how we're going to fix him.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Screw prospects

[Post Count Padder]

I DO love though that we have Quintana through 2020, and the secondary pieces in the deal are basically roster filler. So we can still trade Jeimer and Zagunis and Almora/Happ for another piece before the deadline.

 

What does this make our top 10 look like now?

[Tim]

I'm okay with trading away Eloy + Cease. But I more like Quintana than love him.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I like the concept of the deal but not sure I like the amount given up. Now somebody tell me why Quintana has been bad this year and how we're going to fix him.

 

Quintana has better peripherals than his performance this year, and a big chunk of his struggles are from a slow start(maybe the WBC impacted how he prepped?), and everything I said about Fulmer applies equally to Quintana. AL to NL, crap framing catchers to above average, and better defense(Sox are better than the Tigers here so the impact is smaller).

[squally1313]

I like the concept of the deal but not sure I like the amount given up. Now somebody tell me why Quintana has been bad this year and how we're going to fix him.

Jump in K rate and walk rate, both career highs, and a weird uptick in HR/FB with no corresponding change in batted ball profile (also has doubled his infield fly ball rate).

 

The walk rate is concerning, but he's proven he can be a top 10 pitcher with a 7-8 K/9, and he's at 9.4/9 now. Focus on the strike zone a little more against weaker hitters with a better defense, hope the HR rate drops back down to his norms, and he should be just fine.

[shnsajax]

I like the concept of the deal but not sure I like the amount given up. Now somebody tell me why Quintana has been bad this year and how we're going to fix him.

 

This is my scare of this trade. That and the loss of dongs.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

I like the concept of the deal but not sure I like the amount given up. Now somebody tell me why Quintana has been bad this year and how we're going to fix him.

 

He's been much better recently. 2.70 ERA since the start of June.

[PetermanRealityTour]

They probably stole him from Milwaukee as well.

 

Good Move.

Edited July 13, 2017 by PetermanRealityTour

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I've already worked it out in my head that Eloy is an A ball COF struggling to hit for average in High A despite hitting more groundballs this year. Cease is way easier since the arm surgery ruined him for me.

 

I'm really wishing I had verbalized that I was starting to worry about Eloy's lack of average. That hit tool was supposed to be the thing that made him more Miggy than Soler, but I promise this isn't hindsight. Also the repeated injuries on a big dude aren't great harbingers. Still pains me to lose him, but at least it's for a target I love.

[Tim]

I've already worked it out in my head that Eloy is an A ball COF struggling to hit for average in High A despite hitting more groundballs this year. Cease is way easier since the arm surgery ruined him for me.

 

I'm really wishing I had verbalized that I was starting to worry about Eloy's lack of average. That hit tool was supposed to be the thing that made him more Miggy than Soler, but I promise this isn't hindsight. Also the repeated injuries on a big dude aren't great harbingers. Still pains me to lose him, but at least it's for a target I love.

Exact boat I'm in. I think they may have traded him at peak value.

[JonJayCutler]

Hated it until I saw 3 more years of control. Can someone confirm?

 

Jimenez and Cease, would have preferred not giving up both but as others have said, neither in AA yet, so a lot can change.

 

Either way, the Sox have a serious farm.

[Omar]

So uhhhmmm... Lackey gets the boot now right?

 

We should throw a Toby Flenderson-like going away party for him.