#NotAllPitchers

[Ding Dong Johnson]

you know what else they remove a rib for?

Damn you, I wanted that one

[Splendid Splinter]

 

I don't understand at all and am just rooting to avoid surgery out of principle. Sucks if surgery is really is inevitable

 

Neither do I. I just read that somewhere earlier, I thought. I might be off, considering I don't even remember the source.

 

Once the envy of baseball, the Mets' starting-pitching depth is thinning by the day. Matt Harvey is suffering from symptoms consistent with thoracic outlet syndrome, according to general manager Sandy Alderson, and is deciding whether to undergo season-ending surgery. Harvey is also weighing a non-surgical injection treatment option.

 

Basically it's "have the surgery now or do the injection (cortisone IIRC) and hopefully it'll give you some relief, then get the surgery right after season is over, and be ready by next season." It won't go away for Harvey because of the repetition of the pitching motion. Eventually he's getting that surgery unless he wants to retire.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Syndergaard left the mets game injured.

 

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“It’s that time of the year,” Syndergaard said. “My first full season in the big leagues. I’ve thrown a lot of pitches and a lot of innings so far. It just boils down to a little bit of fatigue.”

 

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Syndergaard — who has been pitching with what the team has called a small bone spur in his throwing arm — tried to wave Chicklo and Collins off when they first emerged from the dugout. His first three pitches to Jayson Werth with two outs in the fifth inning were 93 m.p.h. fastballs and an 86 m.p.h. slider.

 

But when Syndergaard threw a fastball at an uncharacteristically slow 91 m.p.h., catcher Rene Rivera jogged to the mound to talk to him. As Rivera headed back behind the plate, Collins and Chicklo approached the pitcher. After a brief conversation, he relented and left the game.

 

“There’s no discomfort in the elbow regarding the bone spur,” Syndergaard said. “I felt like I could still go out there and pitch through this. It really all boils down to a little shoulder fatigue.”

 

Cespedes also left the Mets game with a quad injury.

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[Cubbie Swagger]

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I got this article on Wikipedia, and I still don't know what thoracic outlet syndrome is.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoracic_outlet_syndrome

 

My wife had a rib excised because of it several years ago. It's basically when blood vessels or nerves get pinched funny...in my wife's case between a rib and another bone (I don't remember all of the details at this point). In her case, she had tingling in her arm, and pain in her funny bone and back area. She was actually dealing with it, not thinking much of it, but a neurologist she goes to for another condition noticed muscle loss in her left hand, and it eventually was traced back to this. Once she had the rib excised, she's had no problems.

OH MY GOD

 

This is gonna sound really weird, but I have always had this weird fear of blood vessels and/or organs getting pinched between bones, and I always try to tell myself how irrational it is. Now I find out it's an actual thing that can happen.

 

horsefeathers.

[weis21]

This is gonna sound really weird, but I have always had this weird fear of blood vessels and/or organs getting pinched between bones

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[Cubswin11]

Shelby Miller demoted to AAA, lol, F them all

[UMFan83]

Shelby Miller demoted to AAA, lol, F them all

 

Who plays in the majors sooner Shelby or Swanson?

[PackLandVA]

Maybe they're recoiling him for eventual move to the pen.

[David]

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Angels right-hander Nick Tropeano has been diagnosed with a medium- to high-grade tear of the ulnar collateral ligament in his right elbow, the team informed reporters (Twitter link via Mike DiGiovanna of the L.A. Times). While he’s headed for a second opinion, Tommy John surgery is the likely outcome. While he could potentially aim for the same stem-cell treatment that teammates Andrew Heaney and Garrett Richards have utilized — Heaney has been ticketed for Tommy John surgery in spite of said alternative — MLB.com’s Alden Gonzalez notes (links to Twitter) that doing so would mean that Tropeano’s recovery would linger well into the 2018 season if he attempts the treatment and ultimately finds it unsuccessful.

[apete6]

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This is the freaking worst.

[Banedon]

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This is the freaking worst.

 

I can think of so many worse things.

[Cubswin11]

I'd be pretty shocked if he pitched again this year, or at least was able to come back effective/make regular starts, his injury needs a surgery to make it right. Rest doesn't help it.

 

Long story, short. I am buddies with an NBA player and was in Vegas for summer league with him 2 weeks ago, we were talking about baseball and Kershaw's injury came up. My buddy said he had the same injury this year that Kershaw has now, Kershaw is working with the same doctors that did his surgery/diagnosis, and rest/rehab/shots/etc. don't help at all, you need to have the surgery to fix it.

Edited July 20, 2016 by Cubswin11

[apete6]

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This is the freaking worst.

 

I can think of so many worse things.

 

Non-Cubs baseball related, this pretty much takes the cake.

 

But, you're right, this isn't worse than world hunger or racism.

[Banedon]

 

This is the freaking worst.

 

I can think of so many worse things.

 

Non-Cubs baseball related, this pretty much takes the cake.

 

But, you're right, this isn't worse than world hunger or racism.

 

I wasn't even going outside of baseball. I mean, it sucks for him, and certainly for Dodgers fans, but I can still think of way worse things within the game. The Pirates nearly had a way worse thing happen when Taillon got hit in the head the other night. It appears that all was ok, but a back injury hardly seems like "the worst".

 

And now I've way over-analyzed your throwaway comment. Yay internet.

[jersey cubs fan]

I for one do not get particularly upset about other team's players getting hurt.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I for one do not get particularly upset about other team's players getting hurt.

same. although I've had 2 lower back operations so I do sympathize with him on a personal level.

[philosophizer75]

I don't get upset really, but it's no good for the sport for the very best players to get injured. It's no good for anyone to be injured really.

 

Maybe dodgers shift towards selling if they know they aren't gonna have kershaw for the season?

[Cubswin11]

I don't get upset really, but it's no good for the sport for the very best players to get injured. It's no good for anyone to be injured really.

 

Maybe dodgers shift towards selling if they know they aren't gonna have kershaw for the season?

No way should they be sellers, they are in the first WC spot and only 4.5 out of the division. Maybe they shouldn't go make a big trade "to go for it" but they shouldn't sell when a playoff spot is right there for them to have.

[philosophizer75]

Are the dodgers sans kershaw going to catch the giants and are they going to keep pace with the marlins, mets, cardinals, and pirates?

 

I'm not suggesting they should sell, I'm just speculating on whether they may shift gears a bit.

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Gets better for the Dodgers. Alex Wood out for the year.

 

[Clem Fandango]

While Kershaw being healthy is great for baseball and being out hurts the sport, I for one am schadenfreuding the hell out of the Dodgers pitching woes considering they went into the season with like 72 starting pitchers on their roster and their official depth chart currently has them sitting at a 4-man rotation.

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