Schwarber: Fully torn ACL and LCL. Out for 172 meaningless games.

[imb]

 

I don't think it's the same. There's not really a way for a guy to play a limited, specific role in soccer. I don't think it would've worked in another series, but with the AL rules for 4 games, and the diminished need for a deep bullpen, I don't think you lose much by having him on the roster.

 

Yeah. I mean the downside is he goes 0-3 or 0-4 or something instead of what Coghlan or maybe Soler vs. a righty would've done.

 

The downside would be him trying to run the bases and aggravating the newly reconstructed knee.

 

i mean he's doing that in AFL anyway so i'd rather just take the shot in the WS but that's just me.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

LaStella sucks out loud. But only Jesse Rogers cares if Slappy the Seal blows his knee out rounding 1st.

I'm confused if your issue is the threat of reinjury or if it is whether he'll be able to hit off Kluber. You keep changing the argument.

 

No, it's both. I'm saying that the low likelihood of him having success against high level pitching right now isn't worth the potential injury risk.

 

how likely is an injury? and if the alternative is LaStella....well...LOGIC

[mikeyt34]

All the Cub beat writers I'm reading and hearing this morning seem to think this is happening. Phil Rodgers was just on MLB network and stopped short of confirming this, only saying it makes perfect sense. Schwarbs is from Ohio and in his limited time playing in Cleveland and Cincy he has great numbers playing in his home state in front of family and friends. He said essentially the Cubs aren't planning on keeping Rob Z on the roster so it comes down to Schwarbs or Seal Boy. Do we want a quitter or one of the most popular players in recent memory? Schwarbs wins by a landslide.

 

Well so long as the decision is being made for objective reasons

 

Fair enough, but if La Stella is barely going to play (which we all know he might get an at bat or two if he's lucky), then they might as well take the guy who will fire up the team and the fans even more than they already are. Plus there's a better chance Schwarber does something significant than Seal boy.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm extremely unworried about Schwarber's health being an issue, it's 100% about if he's actually going to be able to hit major league pitchers so soon. It sounds a little like he not only just started facing live pitching last week, but that until he was cleared on Monday he hadn't been doing any serious swinging at all. As Kyle likes to point out, 5 weeks of spring training is overkill, but Schwarber hasn't been training like most players are in January either, and 1 week with all the live pitching coming against prospects that are at AA(at best) isn't the same as facing the Cleveland pitchers awaiting him.

 

More to the point, putting Schwarber on the roster instead of La Stella/Zastryzny is easy. Putting him in the starting lineup instead of Coghlan or even Soler is far trickier.

[minnesotacubsfan]

All the Cub beat writers I'm reading and hearing this morning seem to think this is happening. Phil Rodgers was just on MLB network and stopped short of confirming this, only saying it makes perfect sense. Schwarbs is from Ohio and in his limited time playing in Cleveland and Cincy he has great numbers playing in his home state in front of family and friends. He said essentially the Cubs aren't planning on keeping Rob Z on the roster so it comes down to Schwarbs or Seal Boy. Do we want a quitter or one of the most popular players in recent memory? Schwarbs wins by a landslide.

 

Well so long as the decision is being made for objective reasons

 

Fair enough, but if La Stella is barely going to play (which we all know he might get an at bat or two if he's lucky), then they might as well take the guy who will fire up the team and the fans even more than they already are. Plus there's a better chance Schwarber does something significant than Seal boy.

 

 

eh, I dont think LeStella is a quitter. I think he just didnt want to get sent down because he knew where we were headed. But in the end, he just isnt good enough

[badger]

I know y'all are arguing with USSoccer, but I can't imagine anything making me more happy than Schwarber getting actual AB's for a World Champion Chicago team after being forced to not be in the party for 99% of the season.

[jersey cubs fan]

I know y'all are arguing with USSoccer, but I can't imagine anything making me more happy than Schwarber getting actual AB's for a World Champion Chicago team after being forced to not be in the party for 99% of the season.

 

oh he's been at the party, don't worry about that

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[mikeyt34]

 

Well so long as the decision is being made for objective reasons

 

Fair enough, but if La Stella is barely going to play (which we all know he might get an at bat or two if he's lucky), then they might as well take the guy who will fire up the team and the fans even more than they already are. Plus there's a better chance Schwarber does something significant than Seal boy.

 

 

eh, I dont think LeStella is a quitter. I think he just didnt want to get sent down because he knew where we were headed. But in the end, he just isnt good enough

 

He refused an assignment from his employer and went home to New Jersey. In my book, that's quitting.

[badger]

Yea, I guess I meant with a chance to contribute to it with play rather than cheerleading/scouting/helping FO etc.

[David]

I'm extremely unworried about Schwarber's health being an issue, it's 100% about if he's actually going to be able to hit major league pitchers so soon. It sounds a little like he not only just started facing live pitching last week, but that until he was cleared on Monday he hadn't been doing any serious swinging at all. As Kyle likes to point out, 5 weeks of spring training is overkill, but Schwarber hasn't been training like most players are in January either, and 1 week with all the live pitching coming against prospects that are at AA(at best) isn't the same as facing the Cleveland pitchers awaiting him.

 

More to the point, putting Schwarber on the roster instead of La Stella/Zastryzny is easy. Putting him in the starting lineup instead of Coghlan or even Soler is far trickier.

 

If we believe the poster here claiming to be an insider, he's been hitting for a few weeks now.

[David]

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funny sidenote that the cubs and indians share an AFL team

[Agony and Ivy]

I'm extremely unworried about Schwarber's health being an issue, it's 100% about if he's actually going to be able to hit major league pitchers so soon. It sounds a little like he not only just started facing live pitching last week, but that until he was cleared on Monday he hadn't been doing any serious swinging at all. As Kyle likes to point out, 5 weeks of spring training is overkill, but Schwarber hasn't been training like most players are in January either, and 1 week with all the live pitching coming against prospects that are at AA(at best) isn't the same as facing the Cleveland pitchers awaiting him.

 

More to the point, putting Schwarber on the roster instead of La Stella/Zastryzny is easy. Putting him in the starting lineup instead of Coghlan or even Soler is far trickier.

 

If we believe the poster here claiming to be an insider, he's been hitting for a few weeks now.

 

Nah I'm not some kinda insider. I just live next to, and watch baseball with, a good friend of his that played with him at IU so just dumb luck.

Edited October 24, 2016 by Agony and Ivy

[David]

I'm extremely unworried about Schwarber's health being an issue, it's 100% about if he's actually going to be able to hit major league pitchers so soon. It sounds a little like he not only just started facing live pitching last week, but that until he was cleared on Monday he hadn't been doing any serious swinging at all. As Kyle likes to point out, 5 weeks of spring training is overkill, but Schwarber hasn't been training like most players are in January either, and 1 week with all the live pitching coming against prospects that are at AA(at best) isn't the same as facing the Cleveland pitchers awaiting him.

 

More to the point, putting Schwarber on the roster instead of La Stella/Zastryzny is easy. Putting him in the starting lineup instead of Coghlan or even Soler is far trickier.

 

If we believe the poster here claiming to be an insider, he's been hitting for a few weeks now.

 

Nah I'm not some kinda insider. I just live next to, and watch baseball with, a good friend of his that played with him at IU so just dumb luck.

so basically you're an insider

 

i mean jon lester's father in law's friend was an insider

[Agony and Ivy]

 

If we believe the poster here claiming to be an insider, he's been hitting for a few weeks now.

 

Nah I'm not some kinda insider. I just live next to, and watch baseball with, a good friend of his that played with him at IU so just dumb luck.

so basically you're an insider

 

i mean jon lester's father in law's friend was an insider

 

Hahaha time for Ken Rosenthal to eat his heart out. The crazy part is this would've made more sense if it happened before I moved from Chicago. Now I live in Austin and they randomly moved in and he saw my Cubs autographed stuff hanging on my wall. I have seen some hilarious videos of Schwarber that I know the guys like Big Cat would love to see.

[LeonDurham]

Two issues:

1) Health: Obviously, if there's a real chance he gets is hurting himself from an injury standpoint by playing, he shouldn't and he won't. So not worried.

 

2) Rust/Timing: Maybe someone who has played baseball on a high level can provide some input here but I'm just not buying it. This guy has been hitting a baseball for 20 years. He's been facing live pitching for a while. He's been working out. Ballplayers who are playing every day can go into slumps where they can't hit a beachball (see Heyward) and ballplayers can come back from a long stint on the DL and hit 2 home runs in their first 2 AB's.

 

I'll take my chances with a rusty Schwarber over Coughlan or Lastella every single time. One factor will be base running, but as long as he can get from base to base it's a perfectly fine tradeoff to me. So he's definitely on the roster.

 

Now how much he plays is a different issue and depends on what's happening with Heyward, Contraras, Almora etc in the outfield since it seems as if Contreras has made a strong case to play even when he's not catching, maybe as a DH. Soler, however, hasn't.

[imb]

if there was any chance of re-aggravation he wouldn't be taking swings in teh horsefeathering AFL that's for sure

[Banedon]

[David]

. Edited October 24, 2016 by David

[SouthSideRyan]

 

I don't think it's the same. There's not really a way for a guy to play a limited, specific role in soccer. I don't think it would've worked in another series, but with the AL rules for 4 games, and the diminished need for a deep bullpen, I don't think you lose much by having him on the roster.

 

Yeah. I mean the downside is he goes 0-3 or 0-4 or something instead of what Coghlan or maybe Soler vs. a righty would've done.

 

The downside would be him trying to run the bases and aggravating the newly reconstructed knee.

 

In which case we only win the Central by 12 games next year?

[David]

kinda funny that we were facing the indians when the totally out of nowhere surprise call up for him to DH happened last year

[UMFan83]

Things you learn when your team is in the World Series: There is a World Series Media Day.

[Brian]

I seriously just get pumped up thinking about the ovation he'll get when he comes to the plate at Wrigley.

[Brian]

I need a picture of Seal Boy at media day with nobody talking to him, like there was that photo of Kyle Orton from media day when the Bears were in the Super Bowl.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I seriously just get pumped up thinking about the ovation he'll get when he comes to the plate at Wrigley.

 

 

will he bat at Wrigley or only in Cleveland?

[Brian]

I seriously just get pumped up thinking about the ovation he'll get when he comes to the plate at Wrigley.

 

 

will he bat at Wrigley or only in Cleveland?

 

PH for the pitcher