Bulls 2015-16 Regular Season Thread 2.0

davell · February 6, 2016

Thibs likely DOES have his pick of jobs when he decides to coach again. Maybe not the Lakers though, as I kind of doubt they even want to attempt the slow, methodical, defense first style. Just don't think thats a fit for either party. That said, I agree he's much closer to a more talented Skiles than he is to being the 2nd best coach in the league or whatever was said earlier. He's a guy that's going to have a shelf life wherever he goes and if it wasn't for Noah, my honest guess is he'd have been run out of town in Chicago quicker than he was.

muntjack · February 7, 2016

You don't think Thibs typically had Bulls teams better suited to his defensive strengths? What would he do this year, tie Noah to himself for some kind of human puppet trickery? Construct a decent SF out of clay and give it life with lightning?

Again, everyone was done with him; I think the idea that a FO could turn players on a coach as opposed to the players simply being fed up with the coach is silly. Thibs very much looks like a more talented Scott Skiles to me; any team he gets better win it all because otherwise (or, maybe even despite that) he'll probably be gone after 4-5 years because his team is sick of him. There's tough coaches, and then there's the hardass freaks that don't have a long shelf life with a team.

I don't necessarily disagree with you. I just think he's light years beyond what Hoiberg will ever be.

Sammy Sofa · February 7, 2016

You don't think Thibs typically had Bulls teams better suited to his defensive strengths? What would he do this year, tie Noah to himself for some kind of human puppet trickery? Construct a decent SF out of clay and give it life with lightning?

Again, everyone was done with him; I think the idea that a FO could turn players on a coach as opposed to the players simply being fed up with the coach is silly. Thibs very much looks like a more talented Scott Skiles to me; any team he gets better win it all because otherwise (or, maybe even despite that) he'll probably be gone after 4-5 years because his team is sick of him. There's tough coaches, and then there's the hardass freaks that don't have a long shelf life with a team.

I don't necessarily disagree with you. I just think he's light years beyond what Hoiberg will ever be.

Oh, most definitely he's a better coach than Hoiberg. But this team's current issues run much deeper than improving the coach, and Thibs being their coach this year was never going to happen. It's not like he was fired only because he was clashing with GarPax; seemingly EVERYONE was done with him.

He's a damn good coach, but a touch person to play for and work with and they basically missed their window to succeed with him (mainly because Rose turned out to be a depressing one-man show of disappointment for multiple seasons).

Ryne Ween · February 7, 2016

A much more talented Scott skiles is a tremendous coach.

Sammy Sofa · February 7, 2016

A much more talented Scott skiles is a tremendous coach.

Nobody is saying Thibs isn't a good coach; many just disagree with just how great you think he is, that you think the players didn't get sick of him and instead were "turned" by the FO, and just how much of an impact he would have had this year. At their best he relied so much on Deng, Noah and Taj to anchor that defense, and now two of those guys are gone and one is an older, less effective version of himself.

Again, Thibs is a better coach, but what would be so different this year? McDermott didn't play better under him (if he played at all). Rose was still maddeningly inconsistent. How would he have prevented Noah from inevitably falling apart? Or Dunleavy? About the only major difference that you could argue is maybe Mirotic wouldn't have stagnated since he seemed to improve throughout last season, so who knows if that would have continued under Thibs. The main problems are injuries, poor team construction and inconsistent players. I think those far outweigh the difference he'd bring over Hoiberg, and those are far more damning on the FO than firing a coach everyone was tired of playing for or working with.

Ryne Ween · February 7, 2016

This is a game we need to somehow close out.

Defense quality all night (both sides) has been all star gamesque. Only 3 solid scorers on the floor tonight and everybody is scoring at will.

Ryne Ween · February 7, 2016

It's not possible how bad they are at the end of games.

Sammy Sofa · February 7, 2016

Nah, better to give up a 10-0 run instead.

Sammy Sofa · February 7, 2016

Sorry; 12-0.

Sammy Sofa · February 7, 2016

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Ryne Ween · February 7, 2016

They keep building solid late game leads and then [expletive] themselves. How can the same thing happen every night.

Brian · February 7, 2016

it's almost funny how I look at twitter and see the Bulls account post about the Bulls lead and then scroll a little further and the next tweet from them is a graphic with the final score of a Bulls loss.

Derwood · February 7, 2016

Don't cubbyvirus and Wilson fill our quota of mopey Bulls doomsdayers? Do we really need a third?

Derwood · February 7, 2016

Don't cubbyvirus and Wilson fill our quota of mopey Bulls doomsdayers? Do we really need a third?

Flames24Rulz · February 9, 2016

I hate this team.

Sammy Sofa · February 9, 2016

We'll always have that one week when they were enjoyable.

Banedon · February 9, 2016

I like to think they're doing us the favor of not distracting us from the beginning of the baseball season.

Thanks Bulls!

bcl412 · February 9, 2016

Don't cubbyvirus and Wilson fill our quota of mopey Bulls doomsdayers? Do we really need a third?

Eh, this team sucks.

Andy · February 9, 2016

The silver lining is that since Hoiberg is incompetent, maybe the Bulls can fall out of the playoffs and get a lottery ball. If you're going to willfully downgrade your coach without even the slightest major personnel change, you might as well benefit that way.

Sammy Sofa · February 9, 2016

The silver lining is that since Hoiberg is incompetent, maybe the Bulls can fall out of the playoffs and get a lottery ball.

Wilson A2000 · February 9, 2016

I'm not a doomsdayer. This team is just not good enough from GM to coach to players to win multiple playoff series. All of the sudden against good teams in the playoffs they'd get consistent?