Blackhawks 15-16 season

[jersey cubs fan]

How is that certainly the case in the nfl?

 

I bet you could accurately predict 6 of the 8 division winners today. I would also bet that if you made a list of 6 teams that could win the super bowl the winner would be on your list. I suggest this is true of most capped leagues. Which illustrates the point that the cap isn't leveling the playing field very much.

 

The NFL is different since teams can get immediate help from the draft. So there's more hope for a team like Miami to make the playoffs but they're still unlikely to win the super bowl.

I'm guessing you don't follow the NFL.

 

There's turnover all the time. Teams go from the Super Bowl to top of the draft within a couple years.

 

The only stability is with elite QBs. If you have an elite QB, you can be in the hunt every year. Take New England out of the equation and every year is different. And New England not only has an elite QB, but play in a division with horribly run competition.

[ChiCubsFan]

 

I bet you could accurately predict 6 of the 8 division winners today. I would also bet that if you made a list of 6 teams that could win the super bowl the winner would be on your list. I suggest this is true of most capped leagues. Which illustrates the point that the cap isn't leveling the playing field very much.

 

The NFL is different since teams can get immediate help from the draft. So there's more hope for a team like Miami to make the playoffs but they're still unlikely to win the super bowl.

 

I don't think you could predict 6/8 division winners today. I don't think what you're saying is correct either. I think baseball (non-cap sport you're comparing NFL, NBA, and NHL against) playoffs are just a crapshoot. Also can you imagine if the NBA didn't have a cap? LeBron would form an allstar team with all his buddies and win the league every year. Or maybe getting rid of Max salaries would limit him somewhat.

 

The NFL is pretty predictable....

 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/07/31/how-accurate-are-nfl-preseason-forecasts/dMGQZkmZf6YbiJYeBwGGbI/story.html

 

Not sure you can make those predictions TODAY, but after the draft...in the preseason...yeah, you probably could.

 

The article states the best predictions were off by 2 wins per team on average. 2 wins in a 16 game season on average is a lot. And says half the teams were within 1 win off. Well that's not hard to do when half your teams finish 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7. I'm not saying NFL is difficult to predict, or necessarily more difficult than other sports, but there's definitely parity created by having a cap.

[UMFan83]

How is that certainly the case in the nfl?

 

I bet you could accurately predict 6 of the 8 division winners today. I would also bet that if you made a list of 6 teams that could win the super bowl the winner would be on your list. I suggest this is true of most capped leagues. Which illustrates the point that the cap isn't leveling the playing field very much.

 

The NFL is different since teams can get immediate help from the draft. So there's more hope for a team like Miami to make the playoffs but they're still unlikely to win the super bowl.

I'm guessing you don't follow the NFL.

 

There's turnover all the time. Teams go from the Super Bowl to top of the draft within a couple years.

 

The only stability is with elite QBs. If you have an elite QB, you can be in the hunt every year. Take New England out of the equation and every year is different. And New England not only has an elite QB, but play in a division with horribly run competition.

 

Hmm, while I agree there is more parity in the NFL than biittner77 is giving credit, if you look at the last 13 Super Bowls, only 2 of the teams that played in those Super Bowls have picked in the top 8 since making the Super Bowl, the Cardinals and the Eagles (who did it 9 years after making the Super Bowl).

 

That said, in the last 15 Super Bowls, 18 of the 32 teams have made it so that seems like parity to me, even if it seems like the same AFC teams have made it recently.

[jersey cubs fan]

Hmm, while I agree there is more parity in the NFL than biittner77 is giving credit, if you look at the last 13 Super Bowls, only 2 of the teams that played in those Super Bowls have picked in the top 8 since making the Super Bowl, the Cardinals and the Eagles (who did it 9 years after making the Super Bowl).

 

That said, in the last 15 Super Bowls, 18 of the 32 teams have made it so that seems like parity to me, even if it seems like the same AFC teams have made it recently.

 

Baltimore and San Fran are picking 6 and 7 this year. The Chicago Bears picked 4th overall in 2005 played in the 2007 SB, were below .500 2 of the next 3 years, played in the conf championship game in 2010 and picked 7th in 2015. Green Bay went to the playoffs 4 straight years then went 4-12 and picked #5 in 2005. They made it back to the conf championship then picked 9th in the draft a year later.

[biittner77]

Sure there is parity in the NFL. Is that due to the cap or due to other factors like injuries? The draft definitely makes a bigger immediate impact on the NFL from other capped leagues. I think those 2 factors account for a lot more of the parity than having a cap. NFL teams go from bad to good because of a successful draft much more so than through free agency.

 

In theory, the purpose of the cap is so that teams can't stockpile good players based on their ability to pay those good players. I'd argue that teams are mostly able to keep the players they want. The cap is just an excuse for the owners to be able to not pay guys that they feel they can replace at a lesser cost.

[jersey cubs fan]

Sure there is parity in the NFL. Is that due to the cap or due to other factors like injuries? The draft definitely makes a bigger immediate impact on the NFL from other capped leagues. I think those 2 factors account for a lot more of the parity than having a cap. NFL teams go from bad to good because of a successful draft much more so than through free agency.

 

In theory, the purpose of the cap is so that teams can't stockpile good players based on their ability to pay those good players. I'd argue that teams are mostly able to keep the players they want. The cap is just an excuse for the owners to be able to not pay guys that they feel they can replace at a lesser cost.

The draft is how you get better and free agency doesn't work, exactly because of the cap. The cap prevents most teams from staying good for very long, unless you have the rare coach/QB situation that allows you to get past the cap.

[Tim]

I don't know the answer to this question: has the NFL become more "unpredictable" since implementing the cap than they were previously?

[kujay]

Not that it matters much but that ending last night sucked. Bad break, tough rebound for Darling to control on the tying goal.

 

No big deal, considering they were down Shaw, Hoss, Keith and Crow, it's cool.

 

Notably the Blues didn't goon quite as much last night in the parts I was able to see. The one run Reaves took, Desjardin (I think) took it to him pretty good.

[BigbadB]

Not that it matters much but that ending last night sucked. Bad break, tough rebound for Darling to control on the tying goal.

 

No big deal, considering they were down Shaw, Hoss, Keith and Crow, it's cool.

 

Notably the Blues didn't goon quite as much last night in the parts I was able to see. The one run Reaves took, Desjardin (I think) took it to him pretty good.

 

The one? There was more than one. Mashinter and Reaves ended up dropping gloves.

[UMFan83]

No playoff hype?

 

Blues/Hawks starts Wednesday

 

From looking online, virtually every prediction I've read has been the Blues. I think the trendy pick is 'Hawks have a lot of issues and this is the Blues year to finally get over the hump"

 

However I see it as 'We saw this two years ago and heard the same things, why would this year be different?'

 

I say Hawks in 6

 

First Round:

 

Hawks in 6

Stars in 7

Ducks in 5

Kings in 5

Panthers in 6

Lightning in 5

Caps in 4

Rangers in 7

Edited April 11, 2016 by UMFan83

[Brian707]

Game 1: Wednesday - Blackhawks vs. Blues 8:30 p.m. (NBCSN)

Game 2: Friday - Blackhawks vs. Blues 7 p.m. (NBCSN)

Game 3: Sunday - Blues vs. Blackhawks 2 p.m. (NBC)

Game 4: Tues, Apr. 19 - Blues vs. Blackhawks 8:30 p.m. (NBCSN)

Game 5*: Thurs, Apr. 21 - Blackhawks vs. Blues TBD

Game 6*: Sat, Apr. 23 - Blues vs. Blackhawks TBD

Game 7*: Mon, Apr. 25 - Blackhawks vs. Blues TBD

 

 

Hawks in 5, I have Cubs tickets for Sunday's game, go figure.

[Brian707]

 

First Round:

 

Hawks in 6

Stars in 7

Ducks in 5

Kings in 5

Panthers in 6

Lightning in 5

Caps in 4

Rangers in 7

 

 

Hawks in 5

Wild in 6

Preds in 7

Kings in 6

Islanders in 7

Lightning in 6

Caps in 6

Pens in 6

 

 

2nd Rd

Hawks in 6

Kings in 7

Islanders in 6

Pens in 5

 

Conf Finals

Hawks in 7

Pens in 6

 

SCF

Hawks in 6

[jersey cubs fan]

uh guys, this thread is strictly for the regular season. the season has ended and we are all about the second season here baby

[UMFan83]

uh guys, this thread is strictly for the regular season. the season has ended and we are all about the second season here baby

 

In that case, I'll leave it up to you to create the playoff thread with a great title. No pressure jersey.

[Brian707]

It says 15-16 season thread, didn't specify regular season. What went on last year? Either way you want to do it.

[sweetpeteman]

Hawks in 7

Stars in 6

Ducks in 5

Kings in 6

 

Caps in 5

Penguins in 6

Panthers in 6

Lightning in 5

 

 

Hawks in 6

Ducks in 5

 

Caps in 6

Lightning in 5

 

Hawks in 5

Caps in 5

 

Hawks in 7

[jersey cubs fan]

anybody care to translate this tweet?

 

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[Banedon]

anybody care to translate this tweet?

 

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He's referring to the Canadiens.

 

CLUB DE HOCKEY CANADIEN, INC. ("CHC")

[jersey cubs fan]

anybody care to translate this tweet?

 

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He's referring to the Canadiens.

 

CLUB DE HOCKEY CANADIEN, INC. ("CHC")

yeah, I see they're having a press conference and doubling down on everything that went wrong this year.