Shark Signs w/ Giants - 5/$90M (Happy Derwood?)

[Bruno7481]

From Kaplan, and any necessary precautions that entails:

 

Cubs and Samardzija have obvious mutual interest, but many teams on Samardzija, "won't come cheap"

 

Doesn't see Price as a realistic option. Will command too much $

 

Cubs in on Lackey, might take 3 years if they want him.

 

Cubs are trying to move Montero. Might not happen, but trying.

 

Open to trading Castro/Baez, or both in right deal(s)

 

Definitely looking into Miller/Teheran/Carrasco types.

 

Definitely in on Heyward, think he can handle CF.

 

Says Cubs feel like they are in a 2 year window, citing Arrieta for two more years and want to be as well suited as possible for those seasons.

Edited November 23, 2015 by Bruno7481

[Guest]

move montero and do what exactly at C?

 

hand it to contreras (not that i'd necessarily be opposed to that)?

 

as for samardzija, would be funny if NSBB again has better sources than a media guy (if dan is right/telling the truth). last year nocode had lester signing like, what, 6 or 7 hours before it was announced? and some guys had the giants making a late push or something?

[SouthSideRyan]

I'd definitely be against handing the job to Contreras. I don't really think there's another option at this juncture(outside of a trade maybe). No way they trust Schwarber to catch 110 games a year, and I'd like to see something beyond one year out of Contreras before trusting him with anything.

[Guest]

I'd definitely be against handing the job to Contreras. I don't really think there's another option at this juncture(outside of a trade maybe). No way they trust Schwarber to catch 110 games a year, and I'd like to see something beyond one year out of Contreras before trusting him with anything.

 

Yeah, next offseason is the potential time to trade Montero, when you have a better idea of if Schwarber can do any catching, and if Contreras is truly the heir apparent.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Says Cubs feel like they are in a 2 year window, citing Arrieta for two more years and want to be as well suited as possible for those seasons.

 

Pardon?

[jersey cubs fan]

Says Cubs feel like they are in a 2 year window, citing Arrieta for two more years and want to be as well suited as possible for those seasons.

 

Pardon?

Like the idea of trying to be good the next 2 seasons. Don't get the window idea.

[Guest]

Says Cubs feel like they are in a 2 year window, citing Arrieta for two more years and want to be as well suited as possible for those seasons.

 

Pardon?

 

Figured it's a poorly phrased way of saying they want to maximize their potential to be a monster while Arrieta is with us (and relatively cheap for his elite production) and (also probably) the position players are really cheap.

[Bruno7481]

Kaplan said window, I should have clarified. As pointed out above, I think he meant maximizing resources while Arrieta is still under control for two more seasons.

[nolanwood]

Signing a 37-39 year old Lackey doesn't sound remotely close to the type of move made by a team looking to capitalize on the next two years.

[Guest]

Signing a 37-39 year old Lackey doesn't sound remotely close to the type of move made by a team looking to capitalize on the next two years.

 

In what way?

[jersey cubs fan]

Signing a 37-39 year old Lackey doesn't sound remotely close to the type of move made by a team looking to capitalize on the next two years.

You think it's more of a 5-10 year big picture type move?

[nolanwood]

Signing a 37-39 year old Lackey doesn't sound remotely close to the type of move made by a team looking to capitalize on the next two years.

You think it's more of a 5-10 year big picture type move?

 

No, genius, I think it's a [expletive] move.

[jersey cubs fan]

Signing a 37-39 year old Lackey doesn't sound remotely close to the type of move made by a team looking to capitalize on the next two years.

You think it's more of a 5-10 year big picture type move?

 

No, genius, I think it's a [expletive] move.

No reason to get racist.

 

I don't think it would be particularly exciting, but if he's a secondary pitching addition, then it would absolutely be the type of move made by a team looking to capitalize on the next two years. You don't sign such a player for any other reason than to hope for near term success.

[Banedon]

Says Cubs feel like they are in a 2 year window, citing Arrieta for two more years and want to be as well suited as possible for those seasons.

 

Pardon?

Like the idea of trying to be good the next 2 seasons. Don't get the window idea.

 

I'd pretty [expletive] pissed if the Cubs went through all the losing they did just for a 2 year window.

[nolanwood]

Signing a 37-39 year old Lackey doesn't sound remotely close to the type of move made by a team looking to capitalize on the next two years.

You think it's more of a 5-10 year big picture type move?

 

No, genius, I think it's a [expletive] move.

No reason to get racist.

 

I don't think it would be particularly exciting, but if he's a secondary pitching addition, then it would absolutely be the type of move made by a team looking to capitalize on the next two years. You don't sign such a player for any other reason than to hope for near term success.

 

I don't understand why you sign him at all. Personal bias could be clouding my judgement, but I want absolutely nothing to do with Lackey.

[Backtobanks]

move montero and do what exactly at C?

 

 

Seattle needs a catcher - trade Montero to them for Brad Miller (basically salary relief). Put a package together for Lucroy.

[Guest]

Seattle traded Miller weeks ago and just signed Iannetta today. With him and Zunino they probably don't want another catcher.

 

Also Lucroy may very well be broken forever. Even if he isn't, trading Montero for nothing, then trading a decent haul to get Lucroy isn't a great sequence. I'd rather have the players it would take to get Lucroy than the ~10 million saved.

[jersey cubs fan]

Signing a 37-39 year old Lackey doesn't sound remotely close to the type of move made by a team looking to capitalize on the next two years.

You think it's more of a 5-10 year big picture type move?

 

No, genius, I think it's a [expletive] move.

No reason to get racist.

 

I don't think it would be particularly exciting, but if he's a secondary pitching addition, then it would absolutely be the type of move made by a team looking to capitalize on the next two years. You don't sign such a player for any other reason than to hope for near term success.

 

I don't understand why you sign him at all. Personal bias could be clouding my judgement, but I want absolutely nothing to do with Lackey.

pitching depth. It's a stated need by management and a real concern. A guy who can pitch adequately has value. I'm not a fan of the guy and I wouldn't campaign for his signing. But as long as he isn't the headliner, it's fine.

[Gilby]

So Kaplan says the Cubs are in on Heyward but won't go over $170 million to sign him. That...doesn't sound like they're really in on him, unless his market is really messed up.

[imb]

Says Cubs feel like they are in a 2 year window, citing Arrieta for two more years and want to be as well suited as possible for those seasons.

 

Pardon?

 

you [expletive] dumbass, it's easy to understand what this means unless you're intentionally trying to take it the wrong way which of course you are so long story short [expletive] off

[ctcf]

move montero and do what exactly at C?

 

 

Seattle needs a catcher - trade Montero to them for Brad Miller (basically salary relief). Put a package together for Lucroy.

 

hahahahaha

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Says Cubs feel like they are in a 2 year window, citing Arrieta for two more years and want to be as well suited as possible for those seasons.

 

Pardon?

 

you [expletive] dumbass, it's easy to understand what this means unless you're intentionally trying to take it the wrong way which of course you are so long story short [expletive] off

 

Well that was a bit much. Holidays getting to you?

[Schwarber Fan]

I agree with Kyle that using the phrase "2 year window" is just dumb.

[minnesotacubsfan]

It's set up to be a pretty damn good 2 years, however

[KingCubsFan]

I agree with Kyle that using the phrase "2 year window" is just dumb.

When your best pitcher is 2 years away from free agency, and some of your core will start getting more expensive at the same time, it makes sense that there's a certain "window" for the iteration of this team. Having a 2 year "window" doesn't mean they'll immediately start rebuilding again.