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I don't think I want them to buy. The players who are supposed to be doing well are going to start doing well or they're not. We won't make the playoffs unless they do, regardless of anything else.

 

100% agree

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I don't know enough about catching and what all goes into it and how big a role it plays, but did the Montero injury impact the pitching staff? I'd assume not, but I have no idea.

No.

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I can honestly imagine this team being four out by Thursday and deciding not to buy

I don't think I want them to buy. The players who are supposed to be doing well are going to start doing well or they're not. We won't make the playoffs unless they do, regardless of anything else.

Yeah its all cornerstone pieces that have to play well that haven't that makee or break this team. An additional starting pitcher, even if was like, Cole Hamels playing like yesterday every start, isn't the difference.

 

I wouldn't mind a Ben Zobrist, but I also don't think a Ben Zobrist makes a big difference.

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Wins come from anywhere. They could have none of the cornerstone guys start doing well and still make it. They could have some of them do well and just barely miss, leaving us wishing they'd done some buying.

 

They need to be buying regardless. Hell, hold on to McKinney-level guys if you have to and trade the Cs, but they need to make some addition(s).

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Wins come from anywhere. They could have none of the cornerstone guys start doing well and still make it. They could have some of them do well and just barely miss, leaving us wishing they'd done some buying.

 

They need to be buying regardless. Hell, hold on to McKinney-level guys if you have to and trade the Cs, but they need to make some addition(s).

Who do you want that's on the market right now, real talk?

 

(Bear in mind that you have to pay for these players, costing you pieces that are possibly already at the major league level, like Schwarber, because aint nobody wants Baez and Castro)

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c'mon, guys. This series is terrible and embarrassing, but they'll still only be 2.5 games out at worst after today with over two months left. Just two days ago we held a playoff spot. We still need to buy. Edited by Gilby
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c'mon, guys. This series is terrible and embarrassing, but they'll still only be 2.5 games out at worst after today with over two months left. Just two days ago we held a playoff spot. We still need to buy.

 

See and we have now gotten to the point where I'm not sure if this is sarcastic or not.

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Wins come from anywhere. They could have none of the cornerstone guys start doing well and still make it. They could have some of them do well and just barely miss, leaving us wishing they'd done some buying.

 

They need to be buying regardless. Hell, hold on to McKinney-level guys if you have to and trade the Cs, but they need to make some addition(s).

Who do you want that's on the market right now, real talk?

 

(Bear in mind that you have to pay for these players, costing you pieces that are possibly already at the major league level, like Schwarber, because aint nobody wants Baez and Castro)

 

We need everything more or less, so I don't have any specific wants.

 

Real talk: No, they aren't going to require a Schwarber-level piece to make an upgrade.

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ive resisted saying or feeling "this team is hot garbage" and i have tried to argue with people that have, while emotional, have said this

 

but this team is approaching "hot garbage" and it isn't good, i wish it wasn't happening

 

No it's just a bad weekend imo but obviously things are trending downward so while its concerning its not hot garbage level yet

They're about to be 5-8 in a stretch against the White Sox, Braves, Reds, and Phillies. It's not just one bad weekend

 

1-The game isn't over yet

2-yeah not a great stretch of games but the sky isn't falling and we've proven to be a lot better of a team.

 

My biggest concern is that of the regulars half of them (Fowler, Castro, Soler and Russell) have hit well below expectations, 3 of them have hit about at expectations but probably all 3 have hit slightly worse than we hoped (Rizzo, Bryant, Montero) and 1 player better than probaly expected (Coughlan). And of those eight, 5 of them and trending downwards (I'm giving Soler and Russell a break because they've both had better abs and hitting ball better lately) including the 2 best overall hitters.

 

So i want to better understand why pretty much an entire offense is underachieving and if anything showing signs of getting worse. We've all seen entire offenses slump before but it's rare when its for this extended period of time. I know people think the hitting coach thing is a meatbally scapegoat but how else do you explain it? Part of it may be a lot of young hitters getting used to the majors but that doesn't explain the extended slumps of Castro, Rizzo, Fowler and montero before his injury.

 

If it's just a really unfortunate coincidence that everyone is slumping at once then it should correct itself and we will be fine and eventually play better. If it's terrible coaching, not finding mechanical flaws, not properly preparing hitters for the pitchers they are facing, then a change has to be made to see if it helps at all. Because it can't get much worse

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c'mon, guys. This series is terrible and embarrassing, but they'll still only be 2.5 games out at worst after today with over two months left. Just two days ago we held a playoff spot. We still need to buy.

 

 

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ive resisted saying or feeling "this team is hot garbage" and i have tried to argue with people that have, while emotional, have said this

 

but this team is approaching "hot garbage" and it isn't good, i wish it wasn't happening

 

No it's just a bad weekend imo but obviously things are trending downward so while its concerning its not hot garbage level yet

They're about to be 5-8 in a stretch against the White Sox, Braves, Reds, and Phillies. It's not just one bad weekend

 

1-The game isn't over yet

2-yeah not a great stretch of games but the sky isn't falling and we've proven to be a lot better of a team.

 

My biggest concern is that of the regulars half of them (Fowler, Castro, Soler and Russell) have hit well below expectations, 3 of them have hit about at expectations but probably all 3 have hit slightly worse than we hoped (Rizzo, Bryant, Montero) and 1 player better than probaly expected (Coughlan). And of those eight, 5 of them and trending downwards (I'm giving Soler and Russell a break because they've both had better abs and hitting ball better lately) including the 2 best overall hitters.

 

So i want to better understand why pretty much an entire offense is underachieving and if anything showing signs of getting worse. We've all seen entire offenses slump before but it's rare when its for this extended period of time. I know people think the hitting coach thing is a meatbally scapegoat but how else do you explain it? Part of it may be a lot of young hitters getting used to the majors but that doesn't explain the extended slumps of Castro, Rizzo, Fowler and montero before his injury.

 

If it's just a really unfortunate coincidence that everyone is slumping at once then it should correct itself and we will be fine and eventually play better. If it's terrible coaching, not finding mechanical flaws, not properly preparing hitters for the pitchers they are facing, then a chance has to be made to see if it helps at all. Because it can't get much worse

The Cubs fired Gerald Perry for a lot less [expletive] cause than they currently have with Mallee, I know that much. Like you said, there's no way to directly say he's responsible for basically everyone going in the tank at once, but I don't know what else to do at this point.

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I blame all this on Jhonny Peralta. That [expletive] swing was the turning point of our season.

 

We were struggling offensively way before that game. The difference is the pitching was overachieving and has now come back to earth

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c'mon, guys. This series is terrible and embarrassing, but they'll still only be 2.5 games out at worst after today with over two months left. Just two days ago we held a playoff spot. We still need to buy.

 

See and we have now gotten to the point where I'm not sure if this is sarcastic or not.

 

I wasn't being sarcastic.

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Swept by the Phillies with a no hitter has got to be the low point of the season

 

I thought for sure it'd be the peralta game but.....I think this is it now

 

turned the game off, cant take it anymore

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