2015 NCAA Tournament

[imb]

I seriously don't get it. Kentucky is undefeated and will dick slap its way through the tourney. I Probably watched about every Saturday or Sunday Kentucky game this season and they are objectively a bad basketball team. They have a guy who blocks shots and they rebound their misses. That's it. In a decade, if the ncaa doesn't make massive changes, college basketball will be an after thought.

[seanimal]

college basketball blows and is unwatchable. basically sports is bad.

I'm not sure why one would come into a thread about this subject and say this.

 

I think I posted it in response to the discussion about all the fouls being called. Have you watched any of these games? They're horrific.

I've watched a good amount, and I think it is not news that college basketball is worse than the NBA and that if you are a Basketball Purist you definitely want to watch the NBA and not college basketball.

 

They need a 30-second shot clock, to go from 5 timeouts to 3, and to do something meaningful about flopping. The games don't seem much more 'horrific' than they are every year.

 

i'm surprised it took so long. this sentiment should be expressed as quickly as possible in any thread involving collegiate athletics imo

You might be surprised to find that the people on this board generally know college athletics is objectively inferior to the pros in terms of level of play and are aware that that is just one of many issues with it, and just happen to like it anyway. And that the handful that don't realize the former are not the sort of well-meaning people that are going to be convinced by a drive-by "COLLEGE SPORTS Sox" post on a message board.

 

Also, I'm amused by the fact that 'sucks' with an x substituted for the 'cks' autocorrects to Sox.

 

it's not about the purity of the sport, it's about the quality of competition. it's awful and mostly unwatchable

 

and whatever with the aww shucks some people just like it bit. at least 90% of the tournament's captive audience has money on it. remove that motivation and we're talking about a fringe sporting event at best

[SouthSideRyan]

college basketball blows and is unwatchable. basically sports is bad.

I'm not sure why one would come into a thread about this subject and say this.

 

I think I posted it in response to the discussion about all the fouls being called. Have you watched any of these games? They're horrific.

I've watched a good amount, and I think it is not news that college basketball is worse than the NBA and that if you are a Basketball Purist you definitely want to watch the NBA and not college basketball.

 

They need a 30-second shot clock, to go from 5 timeouts to 3, and to do something meaningful about flopping. The games don't seem much more 'horrific' than they are every year.

 

i'm surprised it took so long. this sentiment should be expressed as quickly as possible in any thread involving collegiate athletics imo

You might be surprised to find that the people on this board generally know college athletics is objectively inferior to the pros in terms of level of play and are aware that that is just one of many issues with it, and just happen to like it anyway. And that the handful that don't realize the former are not the sort of well-meaning people that are going to be convinced by a drive-by "COLLEGE SPORTS Sox" post on a message board.

 

Also, I'm amused by the fact that 'sucks' with an x substituted for the 'cks' autocorrects to Sox.

 

it's not about the purity of the sport, it's about the quality of competition. it's awful and mostly unwatchable

 

and whatever with the aww shucks some people just like it bit. at least 90% of the tournament's captive audience has money on it. remove that motivation and we're talking about a fringe sporting event at best

 

At least the 90% of audience for the NCAA tournament aren't watching its participants shorten their lives like some more popular sports. You don't like it fine, don't watch it. I don't go into the soccer thread and whine about how boring it is to me, nor do I go into the Music thread to rant about pretentious you all are.

[seanimal]

At least the 90% of audience for the NCAA tournament aren't watching its participants shorten their lives like some more popular sports. You don't like it fine, don't watch it. I don't go into the soccer thread and whine about how boring it is to me, nor do I go into the Music thread to rant about pretentious you all are.

 

oh right, because there's nothing exploitative about it so long as it hasn't been empirically proven to shorten one's lifespan. that's an interesting high ground you're taking

 

and besides, i didn't come in here guns ablaze and just skeet wet blanket-ness all over the place. i made a response comment in jest, to which there was a thoughtful response, so i followed up in kind

 

but whatever, you might as well randomly use this vanilla disagreement to hit the release valve on that pent up aggressiveness towards the posters that like to talk about music and/or soccer

[SouthSideRyan]

At least the 90% of audience for the NCAA tournament aren't watching its participants shorten their lives like some more popular sports. You don't like it fine, don't watch it. I don't go into the soccer thread and whine about how boring it is to me, nor do I go into the Music thread to rant about pretentious you all are.

 

oh right, because there's nothing exploitative about it so long as it hasn't been empirically proven to shorten one's lifespan. that's an interesting high ground you're taking

 

and besides, i didn't come in here guns ablaze and just skeet wet blanket-ness all over the place. i made a response comment in jest, to which there was a thoughtful response, so i followed up in kind

 

but whatever, you might as well randomly use this vanilla disagreement to hit the release valve on that pent up aggressiveness towards the posters that like to talk about music and/or soccer

 

Yep, I've long had a passionate hatred for people talking music and soccer. Nailed it.

 

There were 1252 posts in the college basketball in-season thread. You think people were all interested during the season because of gambling, or because they've been fans of those programs for awhile? I can't recall a single person claiming NCAA basketball or football are superior competitions to their pro counterparts, so what is the point of making that argument? Who said anything about exploitation(which of course the majority of NCAAB scholarship athletes aren't being, but yep, let's go pay the top 100 players some more and take away college educations from kids who nobody gives a [expletive] about)? My point is don't make the point about NCAA being gambling driven when a sport that is literally killing people is only at its level of popularity because of sad old men who gamble, and sadder old men who don't.

[SouthSideRyan]

I seriously don't get it. Kentucky is undefeated and will dick slap its way through the tourney. I Probably watched about every Saturday or Sunday Kentucky game this season and they are objectively a bad basketball team. They have a guy who blocks shots and they rebound their misses. That's it. In a decade, if the ncaa doesn't make massive changes, college basketball will be an after thought.

 

Objectively bad in the sense that they'd win about 1 out of 20 games against the Sixers, or objectively bad in the sense that they play bad basketball?

[UK1679666180]

I seriously don't get it. Kentucky is undefeated and will dick slap its way through the tourney. I Probably watched about every Saturday or Sunday Kentucky game this season and they are objectively a bad basketball team. They have a guy who blocks shots and they rebound their misses. That's it. In a decade, if the ncaa doesn't make massive changes, college basketball will be an after thought.

 

Agreed, this team is not very good. Offensively, they're bad and rely on their size rather than ability on defense. Yet they're likely to put that 76 Hoosiers team out of their misery.

 

The NCAA needs to keep players until their a junior or turn 21 to remain relevant.

[Andy]

I seriously don't get it. Kentucky is undefeated and will dick slap its way through the tourney. I Probably watched about every Saturday or Sunday Kentucky game this season and they are objectively a bad basketball team. They have a guy who blocks shots and they rebound their misses. That's it. In a decade, if the ncaa doesn't make massive changes, college basketball will be an after thought.

 

Agreed, this team is not very good. Offensively, they're bad and rely on their size rather than ability on defense. Yet they're likely to put that 76 Hoosiers team out of their misery.

 

The NCAA needs to keep players until their a junior or turn 21 to remain relevant.

Which they have no right to do (nor does the NBA have the right to keep them from being pros), so I'm not sure what the move is.

[mul21]

I seriously don't get it. Kentucky is undefeated and will dick slap its way through the tourney. I Probably watched about every Saturday or Sunday Kentucky game this season and they are objectively a bad basketball team. They have a guy who blocks shots and they rebound their misses. That's it. In a decade, if the ncaa doesn't make massive changes, college basketball will be an after thought.

 

Agreed, this team is not very good. Offensively, they're bad and rely on their size rather than ability on defense. Yet they're likely to put that 76 Hoosiers team out of their misery.

 

The NCAA needs to keep players until their a junior or turn 21 to remain relevant.

Which they have no right to do (nor does the NBA have the right to keep them from being pros), so I'm not sure what the move is.

 

I think going to a baseball type system is the way to go. Let the guys who are good enough go ahead and turn pro immediately, but if you go to a 4 year school, you wait until you're through year 3 before you can go.

[Derwood]

I agree with the baseball system, including allowing players who declare for the draft out of high school (but who are not drafted) to retain college eligibility

[apete6]

I seriously don't get it. Kentucky is undefeated and will dick slap its way through the tourney. I Probably watched about every Saturday or Sunday Kentucky game this season and they are objectively a bad basketball team. They have a guy who blocks shots and they rebound their misses. That's it. In a decade, if the ncaa doesn't make massive changes, college basketball will be an after thought.

 

Agreed, this team is not very good. Offensively, they're bad and rely on their size rather than ability on defense. Yet they're likely to put that 76 Hoosiers team out of their misery.

 

The NCAA needs to keep players until their a junior or turn 21 to remain relevant.

Which they have no right to do (nor does the NBA have the right to keep them from being pros), so I'm not sure what the move is.

 

I think going to a baseball type system is the way to go. Let the guys who are good enough go ahead and turn pro immediately, but if you go to a 4 year school, you wait until you're through year 3 before you can go.

 

Agreed, but I'd be OK with 2 years.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I'll take super flawed college basketball over the stupid NBA any day of the week.

[Guest]

I'll take super flawed college basketball over the stupid NBA any day of the week.

 

Yes. College basketball is increasingly terrible(partially due to its rules, partially because basketball is a flawed sport), but it's still better than watching the NBA, where ~15 games per year matter and even those largely come down to who has one of a couple stars and/or home court advantages with officiating(again, flawed sport).

[Cubswin11]

Going the baseball route would be something I'd really like to see, probably drop it to 2 years tho. It would definitely improve the NCAA product but also help the NBA product a bit as most of the 1 and done guys have flaws and aren't going to be overly impactful, on a whole, right away.

[sneakypower]

I'll take super flawed college basketball over the stupid NBA any day of the week.

perfectly stated

[imb]

watching good interesting players play good basketball in meaningless games is far more fun than watching shitty basketball players play bad basketball in meaningless games.

[Guest]

Agree to disagree

[Guest]

Going the baseball route would be something I'd really like to see, probably drop it to 2 years tho. It would definitely improve the NCAA product but also help the NBA product a bit as most of the 1 and done guys have flaws and aren't going to be overly impactful, on a whole, right away.

Somewhere between the NHL and MLB solution I think would best serve the NBA and NCAA.

 

 

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[Andy]

watching good interesting players play good basketball in meaningless games is far more fun than watching [expletive] basketball players play bad basketball in meaningless games.

No one ever accused people who prefer college sports (myself included) of being remotely logical.

[Guest]

Going the baseball route would be something I'd really like to see, probably drop it to 2 years tho. It would definitely improve the NCAA product but also help the NBA product a bit as most of the 1 and done guys have flaws and aren't going to be overly impactful, on a whole, right away.

Somewhere between the NHL and MLB solution I think would best serve the NBA and NCAA.

 

 

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What does the NHL do?

[sweetpeteman]

Going the baseball route would be something I'd really like to see, probably drop it to 2 years tho. It would definitely improve the NCAA product but also help the NBA product a bit as most of the 1 and done guys have flaws and aren't going to be overly impactful, on a whole, right away.

Somewhere between the NHL and MLB solution I think would best serve the NBA and NCAA.

 

 

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What does the NHL do?

 

 

AHL and EHCL, foreign leagues. Also allows teams to draft the rights to players but the players retain the ability to play in the NCAA.

[Guest]

Going the baseball route would be something I'd really like to see, probably drop it to 2 years tho. It would definitely improve the NCAA product but also help the NBA product a bit as most of the 1 and done guys have flaws and aren't going to be overly impactful, on a whole, right away.

Somewhere between the NHL and MLB solution I think would best serve the NBA and NCAA.

 

 

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What does the NHL do?

 

 

AHL and EHCL, foreign leagues. Also allows teams to draft the rights to players but the players retain the ability to play in the NCAA.

Yea basically- team drafts and retains rights instead of the rights expiring like in MLB. The rights do expire at some point and I think the player just becomes a FA. Not sure the exact terms though in NHL.

 

NBA could have 5-6 rounds worth of prospects and a free minor league system. NCAA will keep some of those second tier players longer at the expense of the one year of the biggest superstars.

 

Oh it wouldn't be any better for the prospects, but that's kind of inherent if the NCAA is involved.

 

 

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[sweetpeteman]

Going the baseball route would be something I'd really like to see, probably drop it to 2 years tho. It would definitely improve the NCAA product but also help the NBA product a bit as most of the 1 and done guys have flaws and aren't going to be overly impactful, on a whole, right away.

Somewhere between the NHL and MLB solution I think would best serve the NBA and NCAA.

 

 

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What does the NHL do?

 

 

AHL and EHCL, foreign leagues. Also allows teams to draft the rights to players but the players retain the ability to play in the NCAA.

Yea basically- team drafts and retains rights instead of the rights expiring like in MLB. The rights do expire at some point and I think the player just becomes a FA. Not sure the exact terms though in NHL.

 

NBA could have 5-6 rounds worth of prospects and a free minor league system. NCAA will keep some of those second tier players longer at the expense of the one year of the biggest superstars.

 

Oh it wouldn't be any better for the prospects, but that's kind of inherent if the NCAA is involved.

 

 

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The rights do expire, but its multiple years or something. Kevin Hayes was drafted in the 1st round in 2010, his rights expired last year, and he became a FA.

[Andy]

BRB getting sloppy happy drunk for the next 2 days

[Outshined_One]

yay badgers