Minor League Discussion & Boxes 7-13-14

[Warpticon]

it's not weird to be aggressive when confronting "rape jokes."

i'm not going to apologize because i'm a literature major and the editor in chief of a poetry journal.

the sports world doesn't typically see stuff like the #yesallwomen movement

so i have to speak up or i am more to blame.

but i think the kind of joking manner which unraveled after the term was taken to task spoke even greater about how using rape in that way is taken lightly. i get we're mostly men here. so it's not often the matter is going to be illuminated. but i can't say i believe what i do & not say these things definitively and loudly.

 

I just meant the whole "you all" preachiness aspect of it and the fact that it came after the person who made the "rape joke" already conceded it was a poor choice of words. I also have no idea what your resume has to do with anything.

 

Speaking of the power of words, though, I would suggest avoiding mentioning political correctness in the future. Like, nobody who casually uses rape as a metaphor is going to change their mind because you said it was politically incorrect. If anything, you'd make them want to do it more, regardless of how correct the underlying argument may be.

[Little Slide Rooter]

The level of political incorrectness here is [expletive].

[Rob]

probably bodes well that i read the "rape" comment and was immediately shocked. like a few years ago that word had to have been pretty prevalent here.

 

but yeah no one gives a [expletive] about your poetry journal

 

Just because it's "one of those days" at the office.

 

Incidence of the word rape on NSBB:

 

1905 matches total (this post will make 1906, yay!)

 

2014 - 128 (so far)

2013 - 78

2012 - 270

2011 - 300

2010 - 146

 

In summary, [expletive], I dunno. I guess how much we talk about rape depends on external factors, like Jerry Sandusky.

[weis21]

And for what it's worth (probably nothing) it's not a word I use that way in day-to-day life. Not that that makes it ok - it doesn't.

 

I had been drinking some (my life sucks and I do that sometimes) and didn't remember choosing that word. In fact, I missed it in Jerseys first reply and thought maybe I mistyped another word on my iPad. But Im sure it was just a dumb and thoughtless and wrong mistake and word choice. I immediately conceded it was dumb and wrong.

 

Sorry, all.

[ConstableRabbit]

Could be something there...

[Warpticon]

Yeah, that really depends on context. Talking about the Sandusky thing is a lot different from people going on about "trade rape."

[Rob]

Yeah, that really depends on context. Talking about the Sandusky thing is a lot different from people going on about "trade rape."

 

Yup. But no matter how bored I am I'm not going to individually parse through nearly 2000 posts containing the word rape. There's no way to come out of that one feeling good about the world.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Petition to change "rape" to something humorous with the word filter.

[ConstableRabbit]

Petition to change "rape" to something humorous with the word filter.

 

http://meantimelife.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/ss-dh2-official-wallpaper-severus-snape-23388300-1680-1050.jpg

 

[weis21]

Also, raping and raped.

[NOLA]

This thread has turned ridiculous. I cringed at "rape" used there too but there's no need to post a resume to gain some supposed moral high ground. I've had immediate family members die from cancer and hate that term to be used to describe bad team guys, but c'mon. Intent does matter.

[Clem Fandango]

Petition to change "rape" to something humorous with the word filter.

 

Bob Howry

[Guest]

Petition to change "rape" to something humorous with the word filter.

 

Bob Howry

Glendon Rusch

[Tryptamine]

Not really sure why it's that particular word that set everyone off when we use violent terms constantly to describe hard hit balls or home runs.

[Coach.]

At first, I thought he just misspelled "rake".

[wekim81]

can I continue to say he "sh*t on" the baseball without offending scatologists?

[Gmoney08]

I saw this thread was up to 6 pages and figured it was going to be interesting recaps about our pretty damn power day in the minors yesterday.

 

 

 

 

 

I was wrong.

[Sammy Sofa]

you all do realize what you're saying when you refer to sexual acts against someone's will as a metaphor for something good (or, in the case of sports talk, often a show of power, essentially) you're doing something really [expletive] up, right? this is not being politically correct to state. rape is something that is very serious & absolutely ruins peoples lives. like, in what possible way could the metaphor be useful? and don't mansplain. quite a decent percent of the people on this message board are reasonably intelligent individuals who understand abstract math principals on some level and are able to interpret often complicated information and evaluate that then form as good of an opinion on that data as possible and explain it to others in a clear way. it's not simply unfortunate that people with this ability don't see such an egregious manner of speech as something so destitute and irresponsible that it doesn't occur to them to even use rape or molestation as metaphors for anything, let alone acts of men imposing their power upon objects. a baseball or a pitcher or anything like that is not a child or a woman or a man or any other variation of a human being who is forcefully subdued by sex. that's [expletive] up. please do everyone a favor and stop using rape as even a near positive likeness of any other act. do yourself a favor and consider what you're actually saying. there is not explaining it away or lessening what was said. just stop.

 

i definitely don't disagree but along this line of thinking we should also probably never use the terms "murder" or "kill", either.

 

when it comes down to it it's just irresponsible use of language, i guess.

 

Noooooooooooooope. Not the same.

[Guest]

referring to taking a life as a metaphor for something good really shouldn't be cool either

[A New Era]

can I continue to say he "sh*t on" the baseball without offending scatologists?

 

You might offend the great mighty poo.

[Sammy Sofa]

OK, let's not call it a stealing a base too to see how far you're going to take this silly bit of "it's just as bad."

 

The use of "rape" reflects pretty big discussions going on right now as to how women are regularly mistreated in everyday society even by men who have no idea that they're doing it. Nobody's a fan of murder, but it's a pretty broad and universal concept, whereas "rape" brings a pretty specific image to mind.

 

But someday we'll call it a murderdeathkill and all use the three seashells.

[Guest]

well stealing doesn't result in tragedy. now you're just being silly.

[ScrubMD]

What if you steal so much that a family can't afford food and starves to death?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

What if you steal so much that a family can't afford food and starves to death?

 

What if it's Kate Upton's family and she's only been dead for a few minutes?

[Little Slide Rooter]

So this is still happening.