Minor League Discussion & Boxes 7-13-14

[Guest]

he needs to be great so we can see the full potential of all of his ridiculousness on an everyday basis

[Little Slide Rooter]

hurry up and get Soler to Iowa, jerks

He's had less than 400 PAs above the Arizona League.

Even Kris Bryant had over 400 before reaching Iowa.

 

Soler also had a few years of something resembling pro-ball under his belt when he came.

and then took two years off before playing again.

 

I love Soler as much as anyone, he's probably the most complete hitting prospect we have, but I'd let him stay in Tennessee for more than 14 games....

 

I'm with you. But if he continues to abuse AA pitchers for another month or so, the challenge of a higher level is more valuable than getting more reps where he is now.

[ScrubMD]

hurry up and get Soler to Iowa, jerks

He's had less than 400 PAs above the Arizona League.

Even Kris Bryant had over 400 before reaching Iowa.

 

Soler also had a few years of something resembling pro-ball under his belt when he came.

and then took two years off before playing again.

 

I love Soler as much as anyone, he's probably the most complete hitting prospect we have, but I'd let him stay in Tennessee for more than 14 games....

 

Puig played a total of 63 games in the minors. Cuban people are all the same, bring him up.

[NOLA]

Puig played a total of 63 games in the minors. Cuban people are all the same, bring him up.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx221/B_Oceander/Thats_Racist_1-3d_phase.gif#that%27s%20racist%20gif

Had to pull that one from the mothballs.

[Brian]

Kris Bryant ‏@KrisBryant_23 53m

"I hit that homer for you!" Haha @javy23baez @dylan_heuer

 

The minor league dong kings

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

hurry up and get Soler to Iowa, jerks

He's had less than 400 PAs above the Arizona League.

Even Kris Bryant had over 400 before reaching Iowa.

don't caaaaaaarrre.

[weis21]

Seriously. I get the whole PA thing and, yeah, I guess he could face a little more "adversity", but he's done nothing but rape milb pitching. Promote him to AAA in a week it two, if he beasts there call him up in September. There are protocols for a majority of instances. But not all.

[Vinestal]

Norwood: 2 ip 0runs 0bb 0H 4Ks

[Guest]

@TommyBirch: Kris Bryant said he told Javier Baez to save some of those home runs for the season as he passed by him rounding third. #Cubs #MiLB #ASG

[Guest]

So Soler and Candelario hit 2 HRs and Javier Baez and Mckinnie both had one today. Not bad.

[CubsWin]

Seriously. I get the whole PA thing and, yeah, I guess he could face a little more "adversity", but he's done nothing but rape milb pitching. Promote him to AAA in a week it two, if he beasts there call him up in September. There are protocols for a majority of instances. But not all.

I agree. I want Soler up as soon as he is deemed ready. He has to be up to stay by 2016. If the Cubs keep in the minors for all of 2015, I'll be fine with it so long as he can still improve upon something to prepare him for success in the bigs.

 

And I agree with the notion that players are best prepared for success in the majors by struggling in the minors and learning from it. To that end, if he keeps mashing AA pitching like this for another 2-3 weeks, it would best serve his development to get him facing more savvy AAA pitchers. Development can't be rushed, but it can be delayed.

[Guest]

 

That second one was a bomb.

[Clem Fandango]

Baez HR:

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/0/v34567671/2014-futures-game-baez-launches-a-tworun-home-run

 

Stupid MLB.com starting the video mid pitch

[Guest]

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/6479266/v34566825/2014-futures-game-gallo-swats-tworun-homer-to-right

 

Holy crap Joey Gallo.

[Guest]

@KrisBryant_23: "I hit that homer for you!" Haha @javy23baez @dylan_heuer http://t.co/AD08mJgHSN

[Guest]

@jjcoop36: Had a scout who said Cubs will just have to be patient with Baez. Nonexistent two-strike approach right now. Vulnerable to soft away.

 

@jjcoop36: But scouts think the approach will improve for Baez. Defense is better than expected at SS, and the power is insane.

[Guest]

@jjcoop36: Had a scout who said Cubs will just have to be patient with Baez. Nonexistent two-strike approach right now. Vulnerable to soft away.

 

@jjcoop36: But scouts think the approach will improve for Baez. Defense is better than expected at SS, and the power is insane.

 

Scout is like a month behind.

[TruffleShuffle]

Seriously. I get the whole PA thing and, yeah, I guess he could face a little more "adversity", but he's done nothing but rape milb pitching. Promote him to AAA in a week it two, if he beasts there call him up in September. There are protocols for a majority of instances. But not all.

 

i don't where this idea comes from. his line in daytona last year was .281/.343/.467/.810. it's fine for a 21 year old in a pitcher's league, but he hit 8 home runs in 55 games. it's not like he's been annihilating each level like bryant has done.

[Guest]

Seriously. I get the whole PA thing and, yeah, I guess he could face a little more "adversity", but he's done nothing but rape milb pitching. Promote him to AAA in a week it two, if he beasts there call him up in September. There are protocols for a majority of instances. But not all.

 

i don't where this idea comes from. his line in daytona last year was .281/.343/.467/.810. it's fine for a 21 year old in a pitcher's league, but he hit 8 home runs in 55 games. it's not like he's been annihilating each level like bryant has done.

 

I don't know about rape, but what sets Soler apart is the peripherals (as many have said). He has massive power yet doesn't strike out all that much and he walks at a good clip. The main thing is the contact ability combined with the power, though.

[XZero771679666304]

Seriously. I get the whole PA thing and, yeah, I guess he could face a little more "adversity", but he's done nothing but rape milb pitching. Promote him to AAA in a week it two, if he beasts there call him up in September. There are protocols for a majority of instances. But not all.

 

i don't where this idea comes from. his line in daytona last year was .281/.343/.467/.810. it's fine for a 21 year old in a pitcher's league, but he hit 8 home runs in 55 games. it's not like he's been annihilating each level like bryant has done.

 

I don't know about rape, but what sets Soler apart is the peripherals (as many have said). He has massive power yet doesn't strike out all that much and he walks at a good clip. The main thing is the contact ability combined with the power, though.

 

He doesn't strike out as much as Bryant or Baez, but he's not what you'd call a low strikeout guy, either. What he has going for him is that he has a fairly disciplined approach, and the fact that he's such a physical specimen allows him to generate power without selling out for it (like Baez and even Bryant, to a degree).

 

And given his contract status, I find it highly unlikely he'll be given quite the same treatment as the other guys. If he stays healthy and performs at a relatively high level, he's going to move, imo.

[CubsWin]

Seriously. I get the whole PA thing and, yeah, I guess he could face a little more "adversity", but he's done nothing but rape milb pitching. Promote him to AAA in a week it two, if he beasts there call him up in September. There are protocols for a majority of instances. But not all.

 

i don't where this idea comes from. his line in daytona last year was .281/.343/.467/.810. it's fine for a 21 year old in a pitcher's league, but he hit 8 home runs in 55 games. it's not like he's been annihilating each level like bryant has done.

 

I don't know about rape, but what sets Soler apart is the peripherals (as many have said). He has massive power yet doesn't strike out all that much and he walks at a good clip. The main thing is the contact ability combined with the power, though.

I took weis21's statement of how Soler is treating minor league pitching as referring to this year only.

 

I agree with David as to the contact ability and strike zone judgement so far, but also his High-A numbers were last year, Truffle, and this is this year. I get that you were simply responding to the idea that Soler has been hitting like this his whole career like Bryant, but if a player is truly progressing, what he did last year is somewhat irrelevant in the discussion of is he ready for promotion this year.

 

He's been out with the hamstring for part of this season, but it's not like he hasn't played at all. He was tied for the most at bats on the Mesa Solar Sox when he played in the AFL last year. He played all spring. He's had time to face higher quality pitching, receive coaching and progress. Perhaps he has improved or perhaps this is just a ridiculous hot streak.

 

That's why the Cubs should wait to see if this keeps up for another 2-3 weeks. I don't think anyone is saying he should be called up for good anytime soon (nor do I think you're saying anyone is), but if this possible hot streak turns into a hot month of OPSing 1.400, then I think his development would be best served by facing more sophisticated pitching that would more readily expose what holes he may have.

[jersey cubs fan]

Seriously. I get the whole PA thing and, yeah, I guess he could face a little more "adversity", but he's done nothing but rape milb pitching. Promote him to AAA in a week it two, if he beasts there call him up in September. There are protocols for a majority of instances. But not all.

 

i don't where this idea comes from. his line in daytona last year was .281/.343/.467/.810. it's fine for a 21 year old in a pitcher's league, but he hit 8 home runs in 55 games. it's not like he's been annihilating each level like bryant has done.

 

I don't know about rape, but what sets Soler apart is the peripherals (as many have said). He has massive power yet doesn't strike out all that much and he walks at a good clip. The main thing is the contact ability combined with the power, though.

I took weis21's statement of how Soler is treating minor league pitching as referring to this year only.

 

I took it to be pretty disgustingly stupid.

[rawaction]

hurry up and get Soler to Iowa, jerks

He's had less than 400 PAs above the Arizona League.

Even Kris Bryant had over 400 before reaching Iowa.

 

Soler also had a few years of something resembling pro-ball under his belt when he came.

and then took two years off before playing again.

 

I love Soler as much as anyone, he's probably the most complete hitting prospect we have, but I'd let him stay in Tennessee for more than 14 games....

 

You say 14 games. I say hes been on the AA roster for 3 months.

[weis21]

Seriously. I get the whole PA thing and, yeah, I guess he could face a little more "adversity", but he's done nothing but rape milb pitching. Promote him to AAA in a week it two, if he beasts there call him up in September. There are protocols for a majority of instances. But not all.

 

i don't where this idea comes from. his line in daytona last year was .281/.343/.467/.810. it's fine for a 21 year old in a pitcher's league, but he hit 8 home runs in 55 games. it's not like he's been annihilating each level like bryant has done.

 

I don't know about rape, but what sets Soler apart is the peripherals (as many have said). He has massive power yet doesn't strike out all that much and he walks at a good clip. The main thing is the contact ability combined with the power, though.

I took weis21's statement of how Soler is treating minor league pitching as referring to this year only.

 

I took it to be pretty disgustingly stupid.

 

Of course you did.

 

He's murdering baseballs and mashing AA pitching. Give him 10 more games and call him up if he's ready. All I meant.

[jersey cubs fan]

Of course you did.

 

He's murdering baseballs and mashing AA pitching. Give him 10 more games and call him up if he's ready. All I meant.

 

Why you felt the need to compare it to rape is the stupid part.