Cole Hamels Traded to Rangers

[jersey cubs fan]

http://www.milb.com/images/657077/t456/180x270/657077.jpg

 

That's right - two earrings, flat brimmed hat, and a chain in 2015...

 

meaning what exactly?

 

also, isn't there a very noticeable bend in that supposed "flat" brimmed hat?

[Sammy Sofa]

http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-sports-in-haiku/files/2014/08/Baez-Tattoo-624x801.jpg

[davell]

@Sullivan_Ranger: Rangers and Phillies are nowhere close on what Texas would give up to get Hamels in a trade. Rangers aren't budging on top farm prospects

 

 

It's not going to surprise me in the least if Hamels is an Astro by Friday afternoon.

[Tryptamine]

Still can't believe Amaro couldn't get a deal done before the Tigers put Price on the market. Way to devalue your return by indecision.

[davell]

Still can't believe Amaro couldn't get a deal done before the Tigers put Price on the market. Way to devalue your return by indecision.

 

The contract situations are completely different and neither will throw the others market off so much.

 

The Dodgers go from Hamels to Price. The Giants have a [expletive] farm system, who's left that the Rangers are truly bidding against now? Just the Astros, a team Hamels has this far, said he wouldn't waive his NTC for.

[davell]

Keep believing man. All I can say.

[Guest]

I actually agree with Gato.

[davell]

I actually agree with Gato.

 

LOL, I honestly think we're out(or very close to it on him). The allure of Price and other younger FA next year being my main reason.

[Guest]

I actually agree with Gato.

 

LOL, I honestly think we're out(or very close to it on him). The allure of Price and other younger FA next year being my main reason.

 

don't think they necessarily see that as an allure with hamels favorable contract situation

[Guest]

Hamels contract situation is not favorable.

[Sammy Sofa]

Only for teams run by a guy who regularly cooks his breakfast off of a hot engine block.

[Guest]

Hamels contract situation is not favorable.

 

False.

[Guest]

Only for teams run by a guy who regularly cooks his breakfast off of a hot engine block.

 

He's gonna have to get rid of the car and switch to those giant bags of generic cereal from the bottom shelf if they sign Price

[Guest]

Hamels contract situation is not favorable.

 

False.

 

Hamels already having pitched his age 30 and 31 seasons before he joins your team is not a feature compared to [your favorite big contract SP alternative].

[jersey cubs fan]

Hamels contract situation is not favorable.

 

False.

 

Hamels already having pitched his age 30 and 31 seasons before he joins your team is not a feature compared to [your favorite big contract SP alternative].

Lester already pitched his age 30 season and I'm sure as [expletive] glad he's on the team now.

[Guest]

Hamels contract situation is not favorable.

 

False.

 

Hamels already having pitched his age 30 and 31 seasons before he joins your team is not a feature compared to [your favorite big contract SP alternative].

 

it is when you know he's still healthy and in one piece and performing well

[Guest]

Hamels contract situation is not favorable.

 

False.

 

Hamels already having pitched his age 30 and 31 seasons before he joins your team is not a feature compared to [your favorite big contract SP alternative].

 

it is when you know he's still healthy and in one piece and performing well

 

Think about this statement for a second.

 

Hamels contract situation is not favorable.

 

False.

 

Hamels already having pitched his age 30 and 31 seasons before he joins your team is not a feature compared to [your favorite big contract SP alternative].

Lester already pitched his age 30 season and I'm sure as [expletive] glad he's on the team now.

 

Me too.

 

Hamels contract situation is not favorable.

 

False.

 

Hamels already having pitched his age 30 and 31 seasons before he joins your team is not a feature compared to [your favorite big contract SP alternative].

 

This is his age 31 season, and it still beats putting up with ages 36+ from FAs thanks to FA pricing.

 

Hamels is getting paid FA prices, you just get to enjoy fewer of the seasons that he's still a high end pitcher.

[abuck1220]

yeah let's just wait until the next* stud 24 yr old free agent pitcher hits the market.

 

*first

[Guest]

yeah let's just wait until the next* stud 24 yr old free agent pitcher hits the market.

 

*first

 

Nailed it.

 

The point here is Hamels contract is not a benefit v. his peers that are potentially available. The message is not 'woah, spending money is bad', the message is 'Hamels doesn't get extra credit for already being on the back half of his megadeal given his age'.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Given the choice, I'd rather dip into our considerable trade resources to try to find an amazing prime age starter over spending a billion dollars on yet another older one.

 

If it's a choice between a Price or a Hamels and nothing at all, I'll take them, but I don't think it's an optimal situation.

[Guest]

Think about what?

 

I'm saying hamels contact is favorable to signing price to what price or another top tier fa will get. Not necessarily that hamels trade cost plus contact is. That remains to be seen.

 

In the offseason I'd take hamels and his contract over signing price to 30m a year for seven years or something

[jersey cubs fan]

yeah let's just wait until the next* stud 24 yr old free agent pitcher hits the market.

 

*first

 

Nailed it.

 

The point here is Hamels contract is not a benefit v. his peers that are potentially available. The message is not 'woah, spending money is bad', the message is 'Hamels doesn't get extra credit for already being on the back half of his megadeal given his age'.

And I completely disagree with you, because his contract is a fixed cost that is not unreasonable and free agent pitchers can only get more expensive and difficult to sign.

[Guancous]

Given the choice, I'd rather dip into our considerable trade resources to try to find an amazing prime age starter over spending a billion dollars on yet another older one.

 

If it's a choice between a Price or a Hamels and nothing at all, I'll take them, but I don't think it's an optimal situation.

 

If it helps, think of it as Cole Hamels vs. Dallas Beeler.

[Guest]

In the offseason I'd take hamels and his contract over signing price to 30m a year for seven years or something

 

I would overwhelmingly disagree. Price is at least a standard deviation better, you're only having to pay him a year or so later in his career, you gain more years where he may actually be an elite starter, and the AAV difference is minimal.

[SouthSideRyan]

I want Hamels because I don't think we stand a chance at Price or Greinke in the offsesaon, and I think those are the only pitchers better than him available for next year.