Hammel/Samardzija Traded to A's for Russell/McKinney/Straily

[Guest]

Who is rubbing anyone's noses in anything? It was just flat out wrong, talking about the Cubs being tied up by contracts that Hendry was giving out to his "buddies." It was practically gibberish.

Didn't you know that Hendry and Henry Blanco were best bros?

I thought Hendry and Koyie Hill were best buds.

 

hendry's best friend was the baseball coach at that high school in florida that sent us all their power hitters who looked good in the minors for ten minutes

 

and the time to make the donuts guy

 

No but seriously, Jim Hendry's best friend was that head baseball coach at Notre Dame (now at LSU??).

[Banedon]

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/07/07/cashman-on-wfan-yankees-were-in-on-cubs-pitchers-right-to-the-end/

 

Cashman told Francesa that he was in constant contact with the Cubs and that GM Theo Epstein was intrigued by a few of the Yankees’ proposals, but pretty much made it clear that if he could get blue chip shortstop prospect Addison Russell from Oakland it would mark a point of no return.

“I think we were certainly in the arena. The fact that Theo was engaging me as much as he was, I know he likes our players. I know there’s packages that had interested him for one or both combined that could have worked, but he always measured every conversation with me with ‘there’s a headliner player that if I can get, and I think I might be able to do so, it trumps every deal I could do in this game,’” Cashman said.

 

 

Also, that more or less confirms that Theo does all the real work and Hoyer just fetches coffee or something.

 

Also that WFAN doesn't know who the Cubs GM is.

[Soul]

I rather like the idea that the Yankees tried, and lost out to the A's.

[TruffleShuffle]

i would like to know how the yankees could have "easily" beat the a's offer. what, if they offered their entire minor league system? or if you're one of those people who believes that 6 prospects in return is automatically better than 3, regardless of quality?

[Thed Hoyerstein]

Fun fact: Koyie Hill posted a .362 wOBA over 47 games at Iowa in 2007, and then a .362 wOBA over 113 games at Iowa in 2008.

 

was this before or after he sawed off his hand

[jersey cubs fan]

i would like to know how the yankees could have "easily" beat the a's offer. what, if they offered their entire minor league system? or if you're one of those people who believes that 6 prospects in return is automatically better than 3, regardless of quality?

 

The prospects they sent would have been Yankees prospects, thus, better prospects.

[RynoRules]

Exactly. You guys don't seem to understand that if the Yankees do it, whatever "it" is by definition is good. Francessa knows this.

 

You know, like signing Carlos Beltran: .216/.271/.401 .671

 

Or Brian McCann: .230/.289/.379 .668

 

Or throwing money at a dozen IFA's as though they were "makin' it rain" at a strip club. 'Cause, you know, quantity over quality every day.

[TruffleShuffle]

jeez wtf has happened to beltran?

[Andy]

jeez wtf has happened to beltran?

He's old and not playing for St. Louis.

[Banedon]

i would like to know how the yankees could have "easily" beat the a's offer. what, if they offered their entire minor league system? or if you're one of those people who believes that 6 prospects in return is automatically better than 3, regardless of quality?

 

Am I missing where someone said that the yankees could have easily beat the offer?

[Guest]

i would like to know how the yankees could have "easily" beat the a's offer. what, if they offered their entire minor league system? or if you're one of those people who believes that 6 prospects in return is automatically better than 3, regardless of quality?

 

Am I missing where someone said that the yankees could have easily beat the offer?

 

that lunatic for the ny daily news maybe?

[Banedon]

i would like to know how the yankees could have "easily" beat the a's offer. what, if they offered their entire minor league system? or if you're one of those people who believes that 6 prospects in return is automatically better than 3, regardless of quality?

 

Am I missing where someone said that the yankees could have easily beat the offer?

 

that lunatic for the ny daily news maybe?

 

Ah, ok...thought we were talking about Cashman or Francesca. The Daily News article doesn't use that exact verbiage, but close.

[jersey cubs fan]

i would like to know how the yankees could have "easily" beat the a's offer. what, if they offered their entire minor league system? or if you're one of those people who believes that 6 prospects in return is automatically better than 3, regardless of quality?

 

Am I missing where someone said that the yankees could have easily beat the offer?

 

that lunatic for the ny daily news maybe?

 

Ah, ok...thought we were talking about Cashman or Francesca. The Daily News article doesn't use that exact verbiage, but close.

 

No, not exact, but more or less the same.

(1) Where were the Yankees, who seemingly could have put together a far better package for Samardzija alone, starting with a catcher, a commodity the Cubs really need?

 

"seemingly" is weaker than "easily", but it is followed up with "far better package" which essentially means they could have easily beaten the A's offer.

[davell]

i would like to know how the yankees could have "easily" beat the a's offer. what, if they offered their entire minor league system? or if you're one of those people who believes that 6 prospects in return is automatically better than 3, regardless of quality?

 

Am I missing where someone said that the yankees could have easily beat the offer?

 

I saw some quotes from Cashman that they were seriously involved, but Theo had told him every time they talked that if one team relented and included one player, that's who they were going with. When Cashman saw, he admitted they got the best deal they possibly could have.

[TruffleShuffle]

i would like to know how the yankees could have "easily" beat the a's offer. what, if they offered their entire minor league system? or if you're one of those people who believes that 6 prospects in return is automatically better than 3, regardless of quality?

 

Am I missing where someone said that the yankees could have easily beat the offer?

 

I saw some quotes from Cashman that they were seriously involved, but Theo had told him every time they talked that if one team relented and included one player, that's who they were going with. When Cashman saw, he admitted they got the best deal they possibly could have.

 

exactly. so maybe that tool from the ny daily news should not have written that the yankees could have made a far better offer. (although to be fair, he probably had no idea who addison russell is, and the trade is difficult to evaluate if you don't know stuff about other teams' prospects)

[Little Slide Rooter]

What I got from that is that Cashman was thinking in terms of quantity, and doesn't comprehend the whole 2 top prospects>lots fringe and filler principle.

[Guest]

What I got from that is that Cashman was thinking in terms of quantity, and doesn't comprehend the whole 2 top prospects>lots fringe and filler principle.

 

i'm pretty sure brian cashman comprehends that

[Little Slide Rooter]

What I got from that is that Cashman was thinking in terms of quantity, and doesn't comprehend the whole 2 top prospects>lots fringe and filler principle.

 

i'm pretty sure brian cashman comprehends that

 

If he thinks that he can top a package featuring a top 10 prospect and another who could be top 100 with his farm system, apparently not.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

What I got from that is that Cashman was thinking in terms of quantity, and doesn't comprehend the whole 2 top prospects>lots fringe and filler principle.

 

i'm pretty sure brian cashman comprehends that

 

If he thinks that he can top a package featuring a top 10 prospect and another who could be top 100 with his farm system, apparently not.

 

He never said he could. In fact, he said the complete opposite:

 

"I don't think [the Cubs] could've done a better deal than what they did in terms of that haul."

[Clem Fandango]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11191885

 

Billy Beane talks about the trade with Jim Bowden. Jim Bowden looks and sounds like he should be the nerd on a 90's ABC family sitcom

[Tedward]

BK (Mpls)

 

 

Can Addison Russell stick at short? I've seen multiple conflicting reports.

 

Klaw

(4:30 PM)

 

 

 

Yes. I have no doubt.

[Guest]

@FacebookCubs: I really thought they should have kept Jeff S. He will become a Mike mattocks someday. He will be good or great.

[Guest]

It's a crime against humanity that he deprived us of an attempted spelling of Samardzija.

[davell]

I think that was honestly just a pitiful attempt to get them to retweet that.

[Lefty]

Any hints as to the PTBNL?