2014 MLB transactions

[Sammy Sofa]

Of relevance to this conversation: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/history-indicates-cubs-competitive-cycle/?sm_id=social_20140725_28510716

 

I really appreciate you sharing that; very interesting read, and it gives me...*gulp*...hope.

[davell]

The folks that don't follow the minors that closely honestly aren't going to appreciate how loaded we are at this point. There is extremely legitimate reason to be excited. Not all these guys will be stars, but one or two likely will and others can be used to acquire more ML talent and still leave a few to inevitably flame out.

[Sammy Sofa]

The folks that don't follow the minors that closely honestly aren't going to appreciate how loaded we are at this point. There is extremely legitimate reason to be excited. Not all these guys will be stars, but one or two likely will and others can be used to acquire more ML talent and still leave a few to inevitably flame out.

 

Oh, come on. I'm the one who probably pays the least attention to the minors of anyone here and I know what the Cubs have.

[treebird]

The folks that don't follow the minors that closely honestly aren't going to appreciate how loaded we are at this point. There is extremely legitimate reason to be excited. Not all these guys will be stars, but one or two likely will and others can be used to acquire more ML talent and still leave a few to inevitably flame out.

 

i read the minors thread every day, but even if i didn't, there's no reason you have to read every night's box scores to know the state of the farm system. unless you guys think you are capable of stat line scouting.

[davell]

I was just making a statement honestly, not singling either of you two out. Whether we're on the same side of the eternal debate at hand or not, I don't doubt you two being very knowledgable(and entertaining as hell).

 

If I were going anywhere with that, is that there ARE a few guys on here that don't follow things whatsoever and are far, far more worthy of being labeled "insane guy from other teams forums" than a guy like David, who is also certainly knowledgable as hell too.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Of relevance to this conversation: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/history-indicates-cubs-competitive-cycle/?sm_id=social_20140725_28510716

 

That all sounds about right. I'm not doubting that we'll field some pretty solid teams in the future.

 

It's just that if we miss the playoffs next year, then make it 3 out of the next 5, that's right in line with what a lot of those teams did, and hooray that makes us a repeat of Jim Hendry.

[abuck1220]

The folks that don't follow the minors that closely honestly aren't going to appreciate how loaded we are at this point. There is extremely legitimate reason to be excited. Not all these guys will be stars, but one or two likely will and others can be used to acquire more ML talent and still leave a few to inevitably flame out.

 

I would argue that people that DO follow the minors closely are the ones more likely to understand the percentage of flameouts (take a look at law's lol top 20 from a couple yrs ago posted elsewhere). the people that are like "the infield is going to combine for 120 homers next year" are the ones that don't seem to follow prospects that closely.

[abuck1220]

but hey, whatever makes you feel like the superior/more knowledgable fan.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Everyone looks overoptimistic on opposing forums. We can conclude therefore that the only person here who is actually reasonable and levelheaded is the guy who is known for doom.

[davell]

The folks that don't follow the minors that closely honestly aren't going to appreciate how loaded we are at this point. There is extremely legitimate reason to be excited. Not all these guys will be stars, but one or two likely will and others can be used to acquire more ML talent and still leave a few to inevitably flame out.

 

I would argue that people that DO follow the minors closely are the ones more likely to understand the percentage of flameouts (take a look at law's lol top 20 from a couple yrs ago posted elsewhere). the people that are like "the infield is going to combine for 120 homers next year" are the ones that don't seem to follow prospects that closely.

 

Because there's anyone here that does that? Get real.

[Clem Fandango]

I hate to really derail the topic, but...

 

According to Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post Dispatch, the Cardinals are in the process of signing free agent catcher A.J. Pierzynski.

Pierzynski was cut loose by the Red Sox on July 16 after the 37-year-old backstop struggled to the tune of .254/.286/.348 with four homers through his first 72 games. With Yadier Molina on the shelf, he represents a definite upgrade for the Cardinals over George Kottaras and Tony Cruz.

 

Not that Pierzynski is any good anymore, but this is like the two worst things in baseball being even worse.

[treebird]

The folks that don't follow the minors that closely honestly aren't going to appreciate how loaded we are at this point. There is extremely legitimate reason to be excited. Not all these guys will be stars, but one or two likely will and others can be used to acquire more ML talent and still leave a few to inevitably flame out.

 

I would argue that people that DO follow the minors closely are the ones more likely to understand the percentage of flameouts (take a look at law's lol top 20 from a couple yrs ago posted elsewhere). the people that are like "the infield is going to combine for 120 homers next year" are the ones that don't seem to follow prospects that closely.

 

Because there's anyone here that does that? Get real.

 

david said 100 hr a season from an infield that didn't include bryant. not necessarily next year, but still.

[Clem Fandango]

The folks that don't follow the minors that closely honestly aren't going to appreciate how loaded we are at this point. There is extremely legitimate reason to be excited. Not all these guys will be stars, but one or two likely will and others can be used to acquire more ML talent and still leave a few to inevitably flame out.

 

I would argue that people that DO follow the minors closely are the ones more likely to understand the percentage of flameouts (take a look at law's lol top 20 from a couple yrs ago posted elsewhere). the people that are like "the infield is going to combine for 120 homers next year" are the ones that don't seem to follow prospects that closely.

 

Because there's anyone here that does that? Get real.

 

david said 100 hr a season from an infield that didn't include bryant. not necessarily next year, but still.

 

Even if you do throw some reasonable numbers out there...

 

Rizzo: 37HR

Baez: 32HR

Castro: 17HR

Russell: 15HR

 

101HR. It's not an unreasonable possibility, it's just yet to be proven if our prospects will sink or swim

[Andy]

I'd venture to say Baez hitting 32 is not reasonable. I'd be thrilled if he ever hit 30 in one season.

[davell]

The folks that don't follow the minors that closely honestly aren't going to appreciate how loaded we are at this point. There is extremely legitimate reason to be excited. Not all these guys will be stars, but one or two likely will and others can be used to acquire more ML talent and still leave a few to inevitably flame out.

 

I would argue that people that DO follow the minors closely are the ones more likely to understand the percentage of flameouts (take a look at law's lol top 20 from a couple yrs ago posted elsewhere). the people that are like "the infield is going to combine for 120 homers next year" are the ones that don't seem to follow prospects that closely.

 

Because there's anyone here that does that? Get real.

 

david said 100 hr a season from an infield that didn't include bryant. not necessarily next year, but still.

 

So he's a positive thinker? It IS possible. I certainly wouldn't bet the house on it, but it is possible.

 

Serious question: When the Cubs get good(hopefully), is this [expletive] debate going to cut into the board having fun again? Or will everyone forget about it and just enjoy baseball again?

 

I get that everyone is(or should be) sick of losing, but I hope like all [expletive] when things get turned around, this [expletive] stops.

[davell]

I'd venture to say Baez hitting 32 is not reasonable. I'd be thrilled if he ever hit 30 in one season.

 

Whether its with us or with someone else, I'd lay money he has at least 1 40 HR major league season in him.

[Andy]

I'd venture to say Baez hitting 32 is not reasonable. I'd be thrilled if he ever hit 30 in one season.

 

Whether its with us or with someone else, I'd lay money he has at least 1 40 HR major league season in him.

I hope you're getting good odds. It's really [expletive] hard to hit 40 homers in one season. A ton of awesome current players haven't done it.

[jersey cubs fan]

So he's a positive thinker? It IS possible. I certainly wouldn't bet the house on it, but it is possible.

 

Serious question: When the Cubs get good(hopefully), is this [expletive] debate going to cut into the board having fun again? Or will everyone forget about it and just enjoy baseball again?

 

I get that everyone is(or should be) sick of losing, but I hope like all [expletive] when things get turned around, this [expletive] stops.

You are asking if people will voice complaints about the team when they are good?

 

 

People complained when the team was good during the Jim Hendry era, fwiw. Unless they reel off a few 100 win juggernaut type seasons there will be stuff to complain about. So, not sure if that's what you want to hear or not.

[Andy]

So he's a positive thinker? It IS possible. I certainly wouldn't bet the house on it, but it is possible.

 

Serious question: When the Cubs get good(hopefully), is this [expletive] debate going to cut into the board having fun again? Or will everyone forget about it and just enjoy baseball again?

 

I get that everyone is(or should be) sick of losing, but I hope like all [expletive] when things get turned around, this [expletive] stops.

You are asking if people will voice complaints about the team when they are good?

 

 

People complained when the team was good during the Jim Hendry era, fwiw. Unless they reel off a few 100 win juggernaut type seasons there will be stuff to complain about. So, not sure if that's what you want to hear or not.

I think he meant specifically if people will be whining about The Plan when/if we're good, and if that is what he meant I'd venture to say that won't be happening. Because if we're good we'll be talking about things happening on the field for the most part.

[davell]

So he's a positive thinker? It IS possible. I certainly wouldn't bet the house on it, but it is possible.

 

Serious question: When the Cubs get good(hopefully), is this [expletive] debate going to cut into the board having fun again? Or will everyone forget about it and just enjoy baseball again?

 

I get that everyone is(or should be) sick of losing, but I hope like all [expletive] when things get turned around, this [expletive] stops.

You are asking if people will voice complaints about the team when they are good?

 

 

People complained when the team was good during the Jim Hendry era, fwiw. Unless they reel off a few 100 win juggernaut type seasons there will be stuff to complain about. So, not sure if that's what you want to hear or not.

I think he meant specifically if people will be whining about The Plan when/if we're good, and if that is what he meant I'd venture to say that won't be happening. Because if we're good we'll be talking about things happening on the field for the most part.

 

Yeah, I know we'll have current [expletive] to complain about. Andy was right, I'm just wondering if the plan still finds itself into everything going on.

[Guest]

We'll be bitching about whatever stupid doom and gloom [expletive] Rondon Fan is saying in a loss in September with an 8 game lead in the division.

 

erik won't be around to join in the fun with him, though.

[Guest]

I'd venture to say Baez hitting 32 is not reasonable. I'd be thrilled if he ever hit 30 in one season.

 

Not reasonable? Not really. He has some of the best power you'll ever see.

 

Unlikely? Sure.

[Guest]

The folks that don't follow the minors that closely honestly aren't going to appreciate how loaded we are at this point. There is extremely legitimate reason to be excited. Not all these guys will be stars, but one or two likely will and others can be used to acquire more ML talent and still leave a few to inevitably flame out.

 

I would argue that people that DO follow the minors closely are the ones more likely to understand the percentage of flameouts (take a look at law's lol top 20 from a couple yrs ago posted elsewhere). the people that are like "the infield is going to combine for 120 homers next year" are the ones that don't seem to follow prospects that closely.

 

Because there's anyone here that does that? Get real.

 

david said 100 hr a season from an infield that didn't include bryant. not necessarily next year, but still.

 

Even if you do throw some reasonable numbers out there...

 

Rizzo: 37HR

Baez: 32HR

Castro: 17HR

Russell: 15HR

 

101HR. It's not an unreasonable possibility, it's just yet to be proven if our prospects will sink or swim

 

I was really at 95. I was saying Rizzo and Baez as 30 guys, Russell 15, Castro 20. Two of those might happen this year. If Castro doesn't hold up his end, there's still a damn good chance that they'll combine for 50.

[Guest]

So he's a positive thinker? It IS possible. I certainly wouldn't bet the house on it, but it is possible.

 

Serious question: When the Cubs get good(hopefully), is this [expletive] debate going to cut into the board having fun again? Or will everyone forget about it and just enjoy baseball again?

 

I get that everyone is(or should be) sick of losing, but I hope like all [expletive] when things get turned around, this [expletive] stops.

You are asking if people will voice complaints about the team when they are good?

 

 

People complained when the team was good during the Jim Hendry era, fwiw. Unless they reel off a few 100 win juggernaut type seasons there will be stuff to complain about. So, not sure if that's what you want to hear or not.

 

Even with multiple 100 win juggernauts that all win WS, there'd be people bitching about stuff (even me, I'm sure, but not nearly as bad as others).

 

The 08 team was so stupidly dominant and the game threads in losses or games that they were losing at some point were hilarious.

[Guest]

Of relevance to this conversation: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/history-indicates-cubs-competitive-cycle/?sm_id=social_20140725_28510716

 

I really appreciate you sharing that; very interesting read, and it gives me...*gulp*...hope.

 

how have the royals schruted things up so bad