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So when's Mike Thomas on the hot seat?

It's year three and Groce still hasn't recruited a big ten caliber point or center and his offense is a train wreck. It's been damn near a decade since we were really good. Thomas can't make good coaches want our jobs.

 

The football hire was awful, and everyone questioned the basketball hire at the time too. That doesn't speak too well of his ability to find a coach.

 

I understand he was turned down like 4 or 5 times before calling upon Groce, but that still reflects on him as an AD.

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So when's Mike Thomas on the hot seat?

It's year three and Groce still hasn't recruited a big ten caliber point or center and his offense is a train wreck. It's been damn near a decade since we were really good. Thomas can't make good coaches want our jobs.

 

The football hire was awful, and everyone questioned the basketball hire at the time too. That doesn't speak too well of his ability to find a coach.

 

I understand he was turned down like 4 or 5 times before calling upon Groce, but that still reflects on him as an AD.

Our school doesn't really care. Look at Michigan paying up for Harbaugh, we don't do that. We just lucked into some downstate kids and happened to have Bill Self for a few years. We are now back to being what we are. Pretty depressing.

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So when's Mike Thomas on the hot seat?

It's year three and Groce still hasn't recruited a big ten caliber point or center and his offense is a train wreck. It's been damn near a decade since we were really good. Thomas can't make good coaches want our jobs.

 

The football hire was awful, and everyone questioned the basketball hire at the time too. That doesn't speak too well of his ability to find a coach.

 

I understand he was turned down like 4 or 5 times before calling upon Groce, but that still reflects on him as an AD.

Our school doesn't really care. Look at Michigan paying up for Harbaugh, we don't do that. We just lucked into some downstate kids and happened to have Bill Self for a few years. We are now back to being what we are. Pretty depressing.

 

Well, there's a little bit of a difference between Michigan football and Illinois.

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So when's Mike Thomas on the hot seat?

It's year three and Groce still hasn't recruited a big ten caliber point or center and his offense is a train wreck. It's been damn near a decade since we were really good. Thomas can't make good coaches want our jobs.

 

The football hire was awful, and everyone questioned the basketball hire at the time too. That doesn't speak too well of his ability to find a coach.

 

I understand he was turned down like 4 or 5 times before calling upon Groce, but that still reflects on him as an AD.

Our school doesn't really care. Look at Michigan paying up for Harbaugh, we don't do that. We just lucked into some downstate kids and happened to have Bill Self for a few years. We are now back to being what we are. Pretty depressing.

 

Well, there's a little bit of a difference between Michigan football and Illinois.

There is, but we have money to make competitive hires, we choose not to.
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Rayvonte Rice should never again be allowed to have the ball in his hands at the end of the game. That's twice in a row he's jacked around with the ball and taken a [expletive] shot as the clock expired. He didn't get lucky this time. Run the [expletive] play the coach told you to or get the hell off the floor.
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I really like Groce as a coach but you're right that he can't recruit on a national level.

I think he pretty much has to land Lovett and needs him to be legit. Not landing a point three straight years is gonna sink him like it did Weber. Snider really hurt.

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DePaul continues to confuse. They start out 6-1 with a win over Stanford but a horrible loss to a team I already forgot. Then they lose 6 in a row including blowout losses to Ohio and Loyola Marymount. Now they have won 3 in a row including their first 2 big east games to Marquette and a pretty decent Xavier team.
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College officials are just [expletive] awful.

 

They have screwed up every different type of call you can so far. It's just ridiculous.

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College officials are just [expletive] awful.

 

They have screwed up every different type of call you can so far. It's just ridiculous.

I man it doesn't matter we suck, like we have since Dee Brown played for us, but I'd sure like to watch a game that wasn't over whistled.

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College officials are just [expletive] awful.

 

They have screwed up every different type of call you can so far. It's just ridiculous.

I man it doesn't matter we suck, like we have since Dee Brown played for us, but I'd sure like to watch a game that wasn't over whistled.

 

I think those 2 calls got them rattled and they fell apart. They're not good and I'm losing faith in Groce's coaching ability. They are unproductive and unorganized far too often on offense for it to not be related to him.

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did Dakich really think they were going to call a flop from the video replay earlier? Unless something's different this year, they go to the video to look for head contact and intentional fouls and thats about it.
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Any of the Indiana guys on here seen Coleman-Landis play? Is he gonna play right away and be able to score for us? If not Groce is gone after next year, IMO.
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Things Groce hasn't done:

 

1. Landed a Big Ten PG.

2. Landed a Big Ten big man

3. Avoided a crushing losing streak mid season

4. Developed a consistent offense

 

Things Groce has done consistently

 

1. Blown leads

2. Talked up average players and raised expectations

3. Been outmaneuvered in recruiting. Some his fault and some not. But at the end of the day, you need the horses.

4. Blown recruiting evaluations and lost key in state targets as a result.

 

Things Illinois has done since 2005

 

1. Had a historic run of bad luck on the court, off the court, and in recruiting. At some point the breaks have to start moving our way again, but the fun is gone.

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DePaul continues to confuse. They start out 6-1 with a win over Stanford but a horrible loss to a team I already forgot. Then they lose 6 in a row including blowout losses to Ohio and Loyola Marymount. Now they have won 3 in a row including their first 2 big east games to Marquette and a pretty decent Xavier team.

 

It's ridiculous and shows that they have talent, but bad game coaching

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