Samardzija trade rumors

[neely crenshaw]

The problems are:

This would be the prime year to trade him- 1 year plus on his current deal/control. We can get the best haul if he continues to perform.

However it will leave us with large hole in the ML rotation. outside of an ivory situation to a contender, I don't a team trading a pitcher with similar potential who is near ready for him…and that's what we need, but we could also use additional assets.

 

So if we dealt him, we are probably looking at a few big arm/ big potential guys that are AA or lower.(obviously..the higher the level, the fewer the players involved.

Which means we are delayed from contending a little longer.

We could say we are going to sign a big name, but they have to want to sign here also.

 

On the other hand, if we can not get a deal in place with him, we need to move him.

There is no doubt that with what we have on hand, we will have trade some assets for pitching. I would rather not include Shark

in those trades but if he isn't going to be here, we have to maximize his value/our assets- which means trade him sooner rather than later.

[Backtobanks]

We would have to get one top pitching prospect ready to step right into the rotation by next year plus other prospects for Shark. It's looking more and more like we're going to have to trade some offensive prospects to get another top pitcher (Price?), assuming our prospects continue to impress offensively.

[jersey cubs fan]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-jeff-samardzija-cubs-spt-0418-20140418,0,81398.story

 

With the feeble losses mounting, the Cubs trading Jeff Samardzija seems as inevitable as not winning the World Series for the 106th consecutive season.

 

The latest woes at Yankee Stadium scream for more offense, yet pitching is what made the Yankees look so dominant in a doubleheader sweep Wednesday.

 

Had it not been for Jose Veras' ninth-inning meltdown, Samardzija would own the only Cubs' victory on their recent five-game odyssey.

 

That Samardzija held a formidable Cardinals lineup to one run in seven innings last Friday is just one of several reasons for the Cubs to take one last shot at re-signing him.

 

It may seem unrealistic, given the Cubs' descent to the National League Central cellar, the need for more pitching prospects (as well as catching depth) and contenders seeking an ace after losing pitchers to season-ending injuries.

 

But current trends and Samardzija's steady ascent are too obvious to ignore.

[ConstableRabbit]

Seems like a ton of speculation -- nothing new, really.

[jersey cubs fan]

Seems like a ton of speculation -- nothing new, really.

It's an opinion piece saying the writer believes the Cubs should sign Samardzija.

[ConstableRabbit]

Seems like a ton of speculation -- nothing new, really.

It's an opinion piece saying the writer believes the Cubs should sign Samardzija.

Yeah, I read the article. Just didn't think it was anything that hadn't been discussed here already. Cool that someone in local media thinks he's good, I guess.

[davell]

Who realistically has the pieces, the need, and the ability to sign him long term?

 

I've got Toronto, Baltimore, Kansas City, Texas(doubt they deal for another one from us though)Mets, and San Francisco. With Pittsburgh and San Diego as teams that could look at him as a year and a half rental.

[SouthSideRyan]

Seattle?

[davell]

Seattle?

 

I didn't include them because of Walker's shoulder issues. I'm not sure they have the pieces without him.

[Guest]

if i was Shark I would just go out to the mound with my pants off every single time.

[Tryptamine]

Not that it would ever be done in division, but the Pirates match up extremely well with the Cubs. Snag both Glasnow and Kingham plus another guy like Jin De Jhang and I would be pretty happy.

[Post Count Padder]

Seattle?

 

I didn't include them because of Walker's shoulder issues. I'm not sure they have the pieces without him.

A deal of Paxton, another of their top 10 pitchers and someone like Dustin Ackley wouldn't do it for you?

 

Personally I'd love to get Stroman and Sanchez from the Jays if AA is willing.

[davell]

Sure, I'd be fine with it. But with Paxton looking as good as he has in the majors, I can't see Seattle dealing him. Same with KC and Ventura.

 

Unless a guy struggles at the outset in the majors, I guess I just doubt he gets dealt in today's game. Years of control, salary, etc.

[illiniguy]

Would KC do Duffy, zimmer, and starling for shark?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Sure, I'd be fine with it. But with Paxton looking as good as he has in the majors, I can't see Seattle dealing him. Same with KC and Ventura.

 

Unless a guy struggles at the outset in the majors, I guess I just doubt he gets dealt in today's game. Years of control, salary, etc.

 

Which is why we're not getting a top-flight, near-MLB-ready pitcher for Samardzija. If you have one of those, you don't need Samarzija.

 

We're going to settle for lesser ability or further away.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Would KC do Duffy, zimmer, and starling for shark?

 

Why would anyone want Starling?

[Tryptamine]

I would absolutely love a Zimmer+Herrera deal. Though it's probably not realistic to expect a reliever from their active roster.

[illiniguy]

Would KC do Duffy, zimmer, and starling for shark?

 

Why would anyone want Starling?

I'm not super familiar with their system I just figured he's a lottery ticket as a throw in.

[davell]

I honestly want no part of Zimmer. He's being held back in EXST until mid to late May. He had biceps tendonitis last year that shut him down early. He started throwing again in December and it came back. They say there's no structural damage and are taking it slow with him. But it's more than enough to make me very wary of him.

 

From KC? Give me Almonte, Duffy, and Mondesi. Otherwise, I'll take an offer from somewhere else.

[illiniguy]

I honestly want no part of Zimmer. He's being held back in EXST until mid to late May. He had biceps tendonitis last year that shut him down early. He started throwing again in December and it came back. They say there's no structural damage and are taking it slow with him. But it's more than enough to make me very wary of him.

 

From KC? Give me Almonte, Duffy, and Mondesi. Otherwise, I'll take an offer from somewhere else.

The royals are very, very high on Mondesi. I doubt you can get him in a package for shark. Their pitching is a strength.

[davell]

I honestly want no part of Zimmer. He's being held back in EXST until mid to late May. He had biceps tendonitis last year that shut him down early. He started throwing again in December and it came back. They say there's no structural damage and are taking it slow with him. But it's more than enough to make me very wary of him.

 

From KC? Give me Almonte, Duffy, and Mondesi. Otherwise, I'll take an offer from somewhere else.

The royals are very, very high on Mondesi. I doubt you can get him in a package for shark. Their pitching is a strength.

 

Yeah, I know. It's that or nothing for me from them because I'm not a Zimmer fan. Toronto, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and the Mets are my favorite options.

[Marlin Bystro1]

Sure, I'd be fine with it. But with Paxton looking as good as he has in the majors, I can't see Seattle dealing him. Same with KC and Ventura.

 

Unless a guy struggles at the outset in the majors, I guess I just doubt he gets dealt in today's game. Years of control, salary, etc.

 

Which is why we're not getting a top-flight, near-MLB-ready pitcher for Samardzija. If you have one of those, you don't need Samarzija.

 

We're going to settle for lesser ability or further away.

 

It will be further away guys. They aren't looking at or getting near mlb ready arms for him. They are also targeting a catcher if possible.

[Sammy Sofa]

This seems like a tremendously depressing storyline.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

This seems like a tremendously depressing storyline.

 

It makes sense. Pitchers don't need as much time to adjust to the majors as hitters do, and we're aiming for 2016 at the earliest.

 

I mean, it is depressing and we can get mad that they have been doing such a crummy job. But with the players we have right now in the system and the organizational philosophy in place, aiming for 2016 or 2017 is the right move. Which means trading Samardzija for A and AA guys is the right move.

 

You can come up with scenarios where we're competitive in 2015, but they involve assuming things like all of our upside plays hitting or 22-year-old hitters putting up 5+ WAR seasons in their first full year in the majors.

[treebird]

This seems like a tremendously depressing storyline.

 

yeah, if we're getting an A-ball guy i'd rather just hold onto him on the off-chance we accidentally re-sign him or someone offers something better down the line. doubly so if we're going to stupidly try to limit ourselves to the teams that happen to have catcher prospects.