Bears Offseason Thread (Trestman new HC, pg 37)

[Splendid Splinter]

What are you saying, that one or more of these candidates is guaranteed success? Because that's how it reads to me. How can you say that?

 

Of course that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is these more "conventional" candidates have a track record of NFL success to look at and decide which best fits the Bears personnel and Emery's philosophy. With Trestman it seems more like a hunch.

 

 

So Trestman doesn't have a track record of NFL success?

[Soul]

Eh, that's pretty thin kujay. "Conventional" coaching hires have yielded scads of utter failures, too.

 

I want to make it clear, though: I'm not "backing" Trestman.

[Wilson A2000]

I'm willing to give Emery the benefit of the doubt here.

 

I can't find a reason to give Emery the benefit of the doubt. I don't think he deserves it at this point.

[Soul]

I'm willing to give Emery the benefit of the doubt here.

 

I can't find a reason to give Emery the benefit of the doubt. I don't think he deserves it at this point.

 

OK, don't give him the benefit of the doubt then.

[Magnetic Curses]

soul is drunk or dyin or something

[Soul]

Just bracing for the inevitable knee-jerk doomfest that will surely come from whoever the Bears hire, that's all.

[Guest]

CSN had Arians as a finalist also.

[RynoRules]

Arians

[Guest]

I'm willing to give Emery the benefit of the doubt here.

 

I can't find a reason to give Emery the benefit of the doubt. I don't think he deserves it at this point.

 

I can. All the smart stuff he said at the press conference when Lovie was fired along with the comments on him being the most prepared GM ever seen by two of the interviewees.

[treebird]

I'm willing to give Emery the benefit of the doubt here.

 

I can't find a reason to give Emery the benefit of the doubt. I don't think he deserves it at this point.

 

I can. All the smart stuff he said at the press conference when Lovie was fired along with the comments on him being the most prepared GM ever seen by two of the interviewees.

 

i can't think of any reasons at all why people interviewing for a job would say good things about the person who interviewed them and is making the hiring decision

[Guest]

can somebody smart please give me a quick rundown of trestman's general coaching style?

[WrigleyField 22]

Just from what I've read about him, his teams consistently have been among the top passing in the league. He has had some good exposure to west coast offense so i suspect you'd see a lot of west coast tendencies.

 

He never lasted long anywhere, but just read through his wikipedia and you can see he 's gotten success out of QBs.

 

 

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[cubbyvirus00]

Please hire Arians

[Sammy Sofa]

Now I'm kinda all for the Canada guy in anticipation of the meltdowns.

[RynoRules]

can somebody smart please give me a quick rundown of trestman's general coaching style?

 

He's a West Coast offense guru. His first OC job was in 95'. He replaced Shannhan (OC) and Kubiak (QB's) in SF the year after they blew the Chargers away in the SB. Seifert was the HC at the time, so Trestman was effectively a branch or two away from Bill Walsh on his coaching tree.

 

EDIT: He was Oakland's OC the year Gannon was MVP and they went to the SB. FWIW, Rice, Gannon, and Gruden endorse him.

[UMFan83]

I was listening to an interview with a Montreal sports reporter on the Score yesterday and the guy said that Trestman is completely hands off on defense. Don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Hopefully we can retain Marinelli to keep some consistency if we hire him.

[Mark Priors Calves]

I was listening to an interview with a Montreal sports reporter on the Score yesterday and the guy said that Trestman is completely hands off on defense. Don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Hopefully we can retain Marinelli to keep some consistency if we hire him.

If Marinelli stays, he'll have total autonomy of the defense. Even though he's been DC the past number of years, its always been Lovie's defense. I'd like to think Marinelli would like that opportunity.

[UMFan83]

I was listening to an interview with a Montreal sports reporter on the Score yesterday and the guy said that Trestman is completely hands off on defense. Don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Hopefully we can retain Marinelli to keep some consistency if we hire him.

If Marinelli stays, he'll have total autonomy of the defense. Even though he's been DC the past number of years, its always been Lovie's defense. I'd like to think Marinelli would like that opportunity.

 

Its been Lovie's defense but Marinelli comes from the Dungy tree and I believe ran a heavy Cover 2 defense in Detroit. I get what you are saying about Lovie being very hands on defensively but Marinelli was calling the plays as far as I could tell. I don't think it would be a huge difference especially given the fact that he's been running Lovie's D the last 2 years and the players on D will almost certainly be very similar next year and the defense was among the leagues best last year.

 

I really don't like that Toub might be moving on too. I would hope to keep the units that have worked well over the last several years as similar as we can, at least as it pertains to the coaching staff. Probably wont happen though.

Edited January 15, 2013 by UMFan83

[Magnetic Curses]

Please hire Arians

 

why, because he was in the news and everyone recognizes his name? luck may have had a prolific year, but it wasn't particularly efficient.

[Magnetic Curses]

I was listening to an interview with a Montreal sports reporter on the Score yesterday and the guy said that Trestman is completely hands off on defense. Don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Hopefully we can retain Marinelli to keep some consistency if we hire him.

If Marinelli stays, he'll have total autonomy of the defense. Even though he's been DC the past number of years, its always been Lovie's defense. I'd like to think Marinelli would like that opportunity.

 

Its been Lovie's defense but Marinelli comes from the Dungy tree and I believe ran a heavy Cover 2 defense in Detroit. I get what you are saying about Lovie being very hands on defensively but Marinelli was calling the plays as far as I could tell. I don't think it would be a huge difference especially given the fact that he's been running Lovie's D the last 2 years and the players on D will almost certainly be very similar next year and the defense was among the leagues best last year.

 

I really don't like that Toub might be moving on too. I would hope to keep the units that have worked well over the last several years as similar as we can, at least as it pertains to the coaching staff. Probably wont happen though.

 

yeah, there's not much variance in the cult of the tampa-2. they all have similar views and it mostly comes from monte kiffin, i believe. i'm cool with it.

[Guest]

I'm willing to give Emery the benefit of the doubt here.

 

I can't find a reason to give Emery the benefit of the doubt. I don't think he deserves it at this point.

 

I can. All the smart stuff he said at the press conference when Lovie was fired along with the comments on him being the most prepared GM ever seen by two of the interviewees.

 

i can't think of any reasons at all why people interviewing for a job would say good things about the person who interviewed them and is making the hiring decision

 

....The comments were reported by Schefter and had no names attached to them. But lets hear your take on some more things you don't know anything about.

Edited January 15, 2013 by David

[WrigleyField 22]

I was listening to an interview with a Montreal sports reporter on the Score yesterday and the guy said that Trestman is completely hands off on defense. Don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Hopefully we can retain Marinelli to keep some consistency if we hire him.

I don't mind hands of in the sense of him letting the DC have autonomy or even letting the GM have a large say in the hiring. I'm more concerned about the allocation of resources. A head coach is going to dictate how the team spends their practice time. There has to be some balance. Then there's also the question of personnel decisions. I think if Trestman came in though, Emery is going to have most of the say, so I'mm not as concerned about that.

 

 

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[UMFan83]

Obviously you want balance but its clearly becoming an offensive league. The Packers went 15-1 last year and had the worst defense in the league. All 8 teams that played last weekend scored at least 30 points I believe. Defense is still important and there are teams that still succeed with great defenses, the Bears D dragged a pathetic offense to 10-6 just last year. But if we were going to lean one way over another, I would prefer it to be towards offense at this point.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm more concerned about the allocation of resources. A head coach is going to dictate how the team spends their practice time. There has to be some balance.

 

This isn't a high school team with all the best players playing offense and defense.

[Banedon]

So McCoy is getting hired in SD. With Arians cancelling his Eagles interview, I'm thinking the odds on him getting the Bears job just jumped by a lot.