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Big "personality" and blatant homerism don't belong in the TV booth, particularly when the team has a large national viewership. That stuff is great for a lot of the hometown fans, but it should be confined to the local radio broadcasts, imo. Santo was a great example of this.

[expletive]. You're hired by the team to broadcast to their fans. The announcers SHOULD be homers. ESPN or Fox announcers should remain neutral.

 

You should have a clear bias, but not be a raging homer. It's just a total turnoff to me to hear an announcer, even for my team, shamelessly cheerleading, or being totally morose when things aren't going well. And in the case of someone like Hawk, so biased they can't even analyze the events on the field objectively. Why would you want an analyst/announcer whose analysis/opinion you can't take seriously?

 

I want the TV team to clearly be in the Cubs' corner, but still remain professional. I felt Len and Bob did this quite well.

 

And in this day and age where just about every game is available nationwide through various channels (like MLB EI), viewer bases extend way beyond the home markets. I watch a ton of games, and I have to say Hawk is pretty singular in his level of homerism. Most TV announcers fall far, far short of his level of cheerleading/pouting/spazzing out, as they should. I can't think of any off the top of my head that even come close.

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biittner77 South Bend Cubs

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Big "personality" and blatant homerism don't belong in the TV booth, particularly when the team has a large national viewership. That stuff is great for a lot of the hometown fans, but it should be confined to the local radio broadcasts, imo. Santo was a great example of this.

[expletive]. You're hired by the team to broadcast to their fans. The announcers SHOULD be homers. ESPN or Fox announcers should remain neutral.

 

You should have a clear bias, but not be a raging homer. It's just a total turnoff to me to hear an announcer, even for my team, shamelessly cheerleading, or being totally morose when things aren't going well. And in the case of someone like Hawk, so biased they can't even analyze the events on the field objectively. Why would you want an analyst/announcer whose analysis/opinion you can't take seriously?

 

I want the TV team to clearly be in the Cubs' corner, but still remain professional. I felt Len and Bob did this quite well.

 

And in this day and age where just about every game is available nationwide through various channels (like MLB EI), viewer bases extend way beyond the home markets. I watch a ton of games, and I have to say Hawk is pretty singular in his level of homerism. Most TV announcers fall far, far short of his level of cheerleading/pouting/spazzing out, as they should. I can't think of any off the top of my head that even come close.

 

"This is one dead-a.ss team"- Bob Brenly about a million times last season

XZero771679666304 Knoxville Smokies

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Big "personality" and blatant homerism don't belong in the TV booth, particularly when the team has a large national viewership. That stuff is great for a lot of the hometown fans, but it should be confined to the local radio broadcasts, imo. Santo was a great example of this.

[expletive]. You're hired by the team to broadcast to their fans. The announcers SHOULD be homers. ESPN or Fox announcers should remain neutral.

 

You should have a clear bias, but not be a raging homer. It's just a total turnoff to me to hear an announcer, even for my team, shamelessly cheerleading, or being totally morose when things aren't going well. And in the case of someone like Hawk, so biased they can't even analyze the events on the field objectively. Why would you want an analyst/announcer whose analysis/opinion you can't take seriously?

 

I want the TV team to clearly be in the Cubs' corner, but still remain professional. I felt Len and Bob did this quite well.

 

And in this day and age where just about every game is available nationwide through various channels (like MLB EI), viewer bases extend way beyond the home markets. I watch a ton of games, and I have to say Hawk is pretty singular in his level of homerism. Most TV announcers fall far, far short of his level of cheerleading/pouting/spazzing out, as they should. I can't think of any off the top of my head that even come close.

 

"This is one dead-a.ss team"- Bob Brenly about a million times last season

 

I didn't say they were perfect.

CUBZ99 ACL Cubs

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Honestly, if I were a Sox fan, I'd be embarrassed by him.

 

 

the duo were named the biggest homers among baseball announcers by the Wall Street Journal, making nearly five times the "biased comments" of the next most biased booth.

 

And the longtime Sox broadcaster hardly didn't view that ranking as an insult.

 

"You just made my day," Harrelson told the Wall Street Journal. "That's the biggest compliment you could give me, to call me the biggest homer in baseball."

 

http://www.csnchicago.com/baseball-chicago-whitesox/whitesox-talk/Hawk-Stone-up-for-Ford-C-Frick-Award-vot?blockID=782181

 

Good stuff. :lol:

 

Len and Bob were near the bottom of the list.

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There's a marked difference between being positive about the team you call games for and accusing mlb umpires of a baseball-wide conspiracy against the team you call games for.

 

But not for fans.

Old Style Iowa Cubs

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Big "personality" and blatant homerism don't belong in the TV booth, particularly when the team has a large national viewership. That stuff is great for a lot of the hometown fans, but it should be confined to the local radio broadcasts, imo. Santo was a great example of this.

[expletive]. You're hired by the team to broadcast to their fans. The announcers SHOULD be homers. ESPN or Fox announcers should remain neutral.

 

Kasper isn't neutral in the broadcasts. He clearly calls the game from the perspective of what the Cubs need to do to win and the changes in his tone definitely reflect a rooting interest in the team. What he does do objectively is analyze and inform the fans, which is more than a lot of broadcast teams do. It does no one good to spew off the type of homer analysis that Harrellson does because it does not accurately portray the game or the team to the fan.

OK, maybe I just misinterpreted the original intent of his post then.

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Well the nightmare of having Mark Grace be considered is likely never going to happen, so... bonus points for that.

 

http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/20121025mark-grace-indicted-dui-counts.html

 

Former Diamondback Mark Grace has been indicted on four felony DUI counts and could face up to 3.75 years in prison if convicted, the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office reported Thursday.

 

A grand jury on Oct. 12 indicted Grace on four felony counts of aggravated driving or actual physical control while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or drugs, said Jerry Cobb, Maricopa County Attorney’s Office spokesman.

 

Grace is charged not only with driving under the influence but also driving with a suspended license and without an interlock device, as required under his previous DUI conviction.

 

If convicted on all counts, Grace faces between 1 and 3.75 years in prison on each count, but the sentences would likely be imposed concurrently because they relate to one incident, Cobb said.

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Grace is gonna be someone's slump buster.
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@BleacherNation: #Cubs: Eric Karros the Favorite for the Cubs' Open Color Broadcasting Job? http://t.co/0u9Bqo4Q

 

At least he won't be in jail, which helps his cause.

 

I clicked display, but I worried that somebody else wouldn't, and I felt that this was actual news.

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Ugh. Please no Karros. I'd rather get Alex Karras.

 

I'm not surprised. He loved Chicago for the short time he was here. And has a bit of experience over the last few years. What's the issue with Karros? (I don't feel like I've watched him enough over the last couple years to form a strong opinion.)

TarzanJoeWallis Draft Eligible

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Ugh. Please no Karros. I'd rather get Alex Karras.

 

I'm not surprised. He loved Chicago for the short time he was here. And has a bit of experience over the last few years. What's the issue with Karros? (I don't feel like I've watched him enough over the last couple years to form a strong opinion.)

 

He's actually my top choice. What don't you like about him, Old Style?

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Yea, short of maybe Glanville, of all the names mentioned, I'd mind Karros the least, by far.

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