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can someone explain like i'm 5 why fangraphs war is awesome and baseball-reference's should be ignored?

 

B-ref was using Total Zone for defensive metrics, while FG was using UZR, which is more reliable. They were also calculating replacement level differently.

 

Replacement level is the same now though.

 

Fangraphs WAR is way better either way.

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Miami and Houston are the two organizations that should never, ever, ever, ever be allowed to complain about another team putting a "B" lineup out there.

 

I don't really care what different organizations think of one another, but the one and only Spring Training game I've ever attended was a split squad Red Sox team against Toronto, and literally NONE of the "A team" Red Sox were at my game. It was Toronto's starters against Boston's AAAA team and bench.

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Miami and Houston are the two organizations that should never, ever, ever, ever be allowed to complain about another team putting a "B" lineup out there.

 

I don't really care what different organizations think of one another, but the one and only Spring Training game I've ever attended was a split squad Red Sox team against Toronto, and literally NONE of the "A team" Red Sox were at my game. It was Toronto's starters against Boston's AAAA team and bench.

 

And?

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Miami and Houston are the two organizations that should never, ever, ever, ever be allowed to complain about another team putting a "B" lineup out there.

 

I don't really care what different organizations think of one another, but the one and only Spring Training game I've ever attended was a split squad Red Sox team against Toronto, and literally NONE of the "A team" Red Sox were at my game. It was Toronto's starters against Boston's AAAA team and bench.

 

And?

 

and it sucked as a fan.

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Miami and Houston are the two organizations that should never, ever, ever, ever be allowed to complain about another team putting a "B" lineup out there.

 

I don't really care what different organizations think of one another, but the one and only Spring Training game I've ever attended was a split squad Red Sox team against Toronto, and literally NONE of the "A team" Red Sox were at my game. It was Toronto's starters against Boston's AAAA team and bench.

 

And?

 

Really?

 

He was probably annoyed that he paid money and saw no quality players.

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I wouldn't exactly go into a spring training split squad game expecting much. Be happy you apparently got all of Toronto's starters at least.

 

Is the point of going to spring training to see David Ortiz get 2 ABs anyway?

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I wouldn't exactly go into a spring training split squad game expecting much. Be happy you apparently got all of Toronto's starters at least.

 

Is the point of going to spring training to see David Ortiz get 2 ABs anyway?

 

Expecting to see a couple of the names you know is hardly "expecting much". I know we're 5 years into this pathetic rebuild and don't have any veterans to care about so we only think about prospects, but normal baseball fans do like to see actual major league baseball players when they pay to see a game.

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I wouldn't exactly go into a spring training split squad game expecting much. Be happy you apparently got all of Toronto's starters at least.

 

Is the point of going to spring training to see David Ortiz get 2 ABs anyway?

 

Expecting to see a couple of the names you know is hardly "expecting much". I know we're 5 years into this pathetic rebuild and don't have any veterans to care about so we only think about prospects, but normal baseball fans do like to see actual major league baseball players when they pay to see a game.

 

And he got to see Toronto's starters, which is plenty for a freaking split squad game in which he is presumably not even a fan of either team.

 

I can sort of see being pissed going to an actual real game and having a star player benched or something (which is going to happen and is more just bad luck than not getting something you deserve or something) but it's a god damn spring training game. Are you really there to watch high level baseball?

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Are you really there to watch high level baseball?

 

Who said anything about high level? He was annoyed that he didn't see any of Boston's starters and that is a perfectly reasonable stance to take.

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That's the risk you take going to a spring training game.
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Does Bonds look significantly smaller in stature or is it just me?

does it really matter?

 

No? Just thought it was a good discussion topic.

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Are you suggesting he may have once been a larger man? What is your theory behind him shrinking?

He just got out of the pool.

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