Dempster Traded to Texas for 3B Villanueva & RHP Hendricks

[treebird]

people are really over-thinking things here. the cubs didn't make up a fake injury to somehow increase the value of a trade chip, and they certainly didn't make up a fake injury and then TELL A RIVAL TEAM THEY WERE ABUSING THE DL. dempster is on the dl with a very minor injury because he has a very minor injury.

[El Duderino]

people are really over-thinking things here. the cubs didn't make up a fake injury to somehow increase the value of a trade chip, and they certainly didn't make up a fake injury and then TELL A RIVAL TEAM THEY WERE ABUSING THE DL. dempster is on the dl with a very minor injury because he has a very minor injury.

 

that's crazy talk

[Guest]

When you're on the same side of an argument as Kaplan, you really should rethink your position.

[Tracer Bullet]

people are really over-thinking things here. the cubs didn't make up a fake injury to somehow increase the value of a trade chip, and they certainly didn't make up a fake injury and then TELL A RIVAL TEAM THEY WERE ABUSING THE DL. dempster is on the dl with a very minor injury because he has a very minor injury.

 

You say over-thinking, I say under-thinking.

[UMFan83]

people are really over-thinking things here. the cubs didn't make up a fake injury to somehow increase the value of a trade chip, and they certainly didn't make up a fake injury and then TELL A RIVAL TEAM THEY WERE ABUSING THE DL. dempster is on the dl with a very minor injury because he has a very minor injury.

 

thank you. I'm sitting here reading the last few pages and am dumbfounded that so many people think that putting Dempster on the DL to prevent him from pitching would be beneficial to the Cubs. Even if Dempster was ok to pitch through it and the Cubs are just taking precaution, the loss of trade value, however minor, would cancel out or exceed any benefit of preserving Dempster and his statistics.

 

And if the Cubs were really found to be abusing the DL system, who knows how they would be punished. Not worth it.

[Clem Fandango]

When you're on the same side of an argument as Kaplan, you really should rethink your position.

 

And then make sure to credit @thekapman

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disaster. even if it is minor, the perception of added risk could hurt his value.

[Clem Fandango]

Brandon Beachy just went down with a partial UCL tear in his elbow. Could this open the Braves up as a possible suitor now?

[davell]

They supposedly already were, plus they were at Garza's start last night.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

What the F is Dempster doing? Big jerk!

[soonercub]

Makes me wonder if one of the players coming back to the Cubs was taken in the 2011 draft. In the old cba you couldn't trade a player until a year after his signing. I wonder if that has changed and can that player be included in a trade as a PTBNL. Any ideas?

[TruffleShuffle]

They supposedly already were, plus they were at Garza's start last night.

 

boy, just goes to show what can go wrong with starting pitching. braves were probably deeper in SP coming into this season than any team in baseball. hudson, hanson, minor, beachy, jurrjens was probably supposed to be the rotation, with delgado and teheran knocking on the door from AAA. but minor has been bad, jurrjens a disaster and had to be sent down, beachy is hurt, delgado has been in the rotation most of the year, and teheran has been inconsistent and recently tweaked his back.

[TruffleShuffle]

Makes me wonder if one of the players coming back to the Cubs was taken in the 2011 draft. In the old cba you couldn't trade a player until a year after his signing. I wonder if that has changed and can that player be included in a trade as a PTBNL. Any ideas?

 

those guys could always be PTBNL under the old system. jeremy bonderman was traded from oakland to detroit as a PTBNL in the carlos pena/jeff weaver/ted lilly three way deal.

[Fro]

 

What the F is Dempster doing? Big jerk!

 

All the scouts will be checking out how his stuff looks at the Softball game

[jersey cubs fan]

http://www.csnchicago.com/baseball-chicago-cubs/cubs-talk/Dempster-Wells--what-it-means-to-be-a-bi?blockID=727476&feedID=661

 

Patrick Mooney and Randy Wells want us to regret thinking about trading Dempster.

 

Remember what Dempster meant to Wells the next time you hear someone wondering why this veteran or that veteran is still around, demanding that Theo Epstein clean house and go all-in with the youth movement.

 

Why? I mean I guess if Wells was some sort of Dennis Rodman type player and Dempster was that guy who seemingly babysat him I would think about it. But I don't really care that Ryan Dempster bought a bunch of McDonald's breakfast sandwiches for 20 year olds while he was rehabbing.

 

So remember this the next time someone quotes you VORP or WAR and lays out the rebuilding plan. Don’t forget that the Cubs are going to need leaders in 2013 to bridge them to where they want to go in the future.

 

Yeah, without that leadership where would this team have been the last three years. That leadership is so very important to maintaining the clubhouse atmosphere for a team that loses a hell of a lot more than it wins.

 

“I can honestly say I don’t know where my career would be without a guy like Ryan Dempster,” Wells said. “It’s just stuff that the fans don’t get to see. Fans only see what happens on the field. They only see production and results and the stuff that Ryan brings off the field is immeasurable.

 

Where would your career be without him? Where is your career with him? You are a forgotten man whose career has sort of gone off the tracks after a bright start. If a lack of a Dempster would have made your career worse, then you really are a hopeless pitcher.

[Magnetic Curses]

lol, like Randy Wells is some great pitcher. it would have been awesome if the reporter would have come back with "and where is your career now, chief?"

[jersey cubs fan]

“It’s just stuff that the fans don’t get to see. Fans only see what happens on the field. They only see production and results

 

If only that were true Randy, if only that were true.

[Benchwarmer]

Didn't the WSox trade for Peavy when he was on the DL? So Demp's situation certainly wouldn't stop a deal today.

 

So is the deal that we pick up most of his remaining salary and get a better A-AA player back.

[Cubswin11]

Didn't the WSox trade for Peavy when he was on the DL? So Demp's situation certainly wouldn't stop a deal today.

 

So is the deal that we pick up most of his remaining salary and get a better A-AA player back.

Yeah I'm pretty sure a guy can get traded while on the DL, I think the team acquiring the DL'd player just needs to acknowledge that they know the guy is hurt/on DL at the time of the trade.

[Guest]

Hanley and the producer from Mully and Hanley seemed to hint this morning that they had heard something about this DL stint and sort of mocked it. Wish I could be more specific, but that's about all that they said and I can't remember exactly when it was. Sometime around 7:30.

[Benchwarmer]

Yeah, without that leadership where would this team have been the last three years. That leadership is so very important to maintaining the clubhouse atmosphere for a team that loses a hell of a lot more than it wins.

 

I'm with you. There was a discussion on CSN about how much Soriano means to the players and clubhouse(not on the field) leader. With all the placeholders and dead wood gone in the next year or two, who will mentor Rizzo, Jackson, Vitters(?), etc.. on being a ML? Castro looks to be the only every day player left for 2014.

[Guest]

Yeah, without that leadership where would this team have been the last three years. That leadership is so very important to maintaining the clubhouse atmosphere for a team that loses a hell of a lot more than it wins.

 

I'm with you. There was a discussion on CSN about how much Soriano means to the players and clubhouse(not on the field) leader. With all the placeholders and dead wood gone in the next year or two, who will mentor Rizzo, Jackson, Vitters(?), etc.. on being a ML? Castro looks to be the only every day player left for 2014.

Whoosh.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Astros Will Listen On Wandy Rodriguez

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [June 20 at 12:28pm CST]

The Astros will listen to offers for left-hander Wandy Rodriguez, and teams are watching the left-hander in anticipation of the July 31st trade deadline, Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports writes. The Yankees, Giants and Blue Jays had representatives in attendance for Rodriguez’s start against the Royals last night, Morosi reports.

 

 

Very good timing by the Astros. Now that Dempsters on the DL, there's really not much available to teams looking for starting pitching immidiately, unless Garza is on the block so they could get someone to really overpay.

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his will ferrell harry caray impressions are immeasurable

[Yeti]

holy crap!