Wrigley Renovation Thread

[Guest]

Extended beer sales ... Crane blinded them with the Leviathan on Waveland, then slipped in this gem.

He's a magnificent bastard!

[Soul]

I'm sure the rooftops can afford a good enough lawyer to come up with some sort of argument. Is a videoboard really an expansion or a new feature?

 

I'm not saying they'll win. It's a hail mary, but worth a shot for them and something the Cubs probably want to avoid.

 

It might *not* be worth a shot for them. How much money do they want to spend to continue a legal fight they can't win, when it'll very quickly kill any profits they might have had anyway? The kind of argument they can come up with is nearly irrelevant. This would be about attrition, and available funds. The Cubs have more. Much more.

 

I think this was always the fact that the Cubs were going against these rooftop owners, who had the city as either an ally or at least a passive enabler. That's changed now. The rooftop owners are now all alone. Even the public at large thinks they are a bunch of whiners. And the powers that be have clearly just told them to back off and deal with reality.

[Robert23]

I'm sure the rooftops can afford a good enough lawyer to come up with some sort of argument. Is a videoboard really an expansion or a new feature?

 

I'm not saying they'll win. It's a hail mary, but worth a shot for them and something the Cubs probably want to avoid.

 

It might *not* be worth a shot for them. How much money do they want to spend to continue a legal fight they can't win, when it'll very quickly kill any profits they might have had anyway? The kind of argument they can come up with is nearly irrelevant. This would be about attrition, and available funds. The Cubs have more. Much more.

 

I think this was always the fact that the Cubs were going against these rooftop owners, who had the city as either an ally or at least a passive enabler. That's changed now. The rooftop owners are now all alone. Even the public at large thinks they are a bunch of whiners. And the powers that be have clearly just told them to back off and deal with reality.

I was hoping the roof top owners could win this. I'm all for a renovating from top to bottom just not the Jumbotron. At the very least put a stipulation the Ricketts must win a World Series first. Financially the main thing was the Cubs getting the night games they needed for selling TV rights.

[Guest]

I'm sure the rooftops can afford a good enough lawyer to come up with some sort of argument. Is a videoboard really an expansion or a new feature?

 

I'm not saying they'll win. It's a hail mary, but worth a shot for them and something the Cubs probably want to avoid.

 

It might *not* be worth a shot for them. How much money do they want to spend to continue a legal fight they can't win, when it'll very quickly kill any profits they might have had anyway? The kind of argument they can come up with is nearly irrelevant. This would be about attrition, and available funds. The Cubs have more. Much more.

 

I think this was always the fact that the Cubs were going against these rooftop owners, who had the city as either an ally or at least a passive enabler. That's changed now. The rooftop owners are now all alone. Even the public at large thinks they are a bunch of whiners. And the powers that be have clearly just told them to back off and deal with reality.

I was hoping the roof top owners could win this. I'm all for a renovating from top to bottom just not the Jumbotron. At the very least put a stipulation the Ricketts must win a World Series first. Financially the main thing was the Cubs getting the night games they needed for selling TV rights.

I hate the Jumbotron because it represents everything that is wrong with the Poochieized ballpark "experience". I will always hate the Jumbotron at Wrigley, always. That said, I hate the parasitic rooftop owners more, so [expletive] em.

[Guest]

All I saw was he said he didn't know when the baseball budget would be able to go back up. Once again making it appear as if Theo hasn't been able to make major moved to this point. We have some money coming off though, some chesp guys that are reasonably productive, so we should be able to make a high profile move or two and keep the budget in the same vicinity it is now.

 

Well this is [expletive] pathetic.

I wouldn't argue that at all. I'm just tired of people putting the blame on Theo, when its extremely likely he's not had a true choice in spending more. To me, the fact I honestly think we've got a realistic shot at contention next year, speaks very highly of our FO, given what I think is a [expletive] payroll cap, that Theo didn't see coming immediately, when he got here.

 

this has been my fear from the beginning... that when theo was hired ricketts basically told him "you aren't going to be spending money at all in the first few years, so this will give you the chance to try that fantasy thing you were talking about where we create all of our own talent"

[Guest]

Friend of mine with too much time on his hands mocked up a board to the 5000 sq. ft. scale.

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/3ASmJwK.jpg

 

oh man, it's going to be so fun watching giancarlo hit that thing every week

[davell]

I think we were counting on the 150 mill from the city. I don't think Theo expected to have to more than a year without spending big or at least having the ability to. His comment a month or so ago where he said he thought we'd be able to use our big market capabilities sooner kind of puts it in this light for me.

[SouthSideRyan]

So 30M/year for 5 years for a team making over 30M/year in profit.

[Sammy Sofa]

I think we were counting on the 150 mill from the city. I don't think Theo expected to have to more than a year without spending big or at least having the ability to. His comment a month or so ago where he said he thought we'd be able to use our big market capabilities sooner kind of puts it in this light for me.

 

Wait, what? You think $150 million was going to be enough to offset all of the various costs apparently hindering the payroll?

[neely crenshaw]

AP report today mentioned the expected fight in the courts but it also quoted Ricketts as saying the new signage and jumbotron would not impact the view from the rooftops.

[jersey cubs fan]

I was hoping the roof top owners could win this. I'm all for a renovating from top to bottom just not the Jumbotron. At the very least put a stipulation the Ricketts must win a World Series first.

 

 

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

[SouthSideRyan]

I just look forward to what the new payroll excuse is after we sign a new partial TV deal in 2014.

[neely crenshaw]

I just look forward to what the new payroll excuse is after we sign a new partial TV deal in 2014.

 

Always in the back of my mind, but I still hold on to the fact that Theo could have gone to any number of clubs sooner or later. So I can't see him going to the cubs unless he was sure he could spend some money. I sure hope I'm right because if they can't spend a good amount of cash on this team, we may be looking at a very long time until we are contenders.

[Sammy Sofa]

Because maybe he's a Billy Beane-like masochist.

[Banedon]

lol @ hating the jumbotron. I hope it encircles the entire outfield.

[Soul]

LOL.

[UMFan83]

I don't understand how someone could hate a jumbotron at a baseball game. It's like saying you hate indoor plumbing and prefer to [expletive] in a bucket because that's how they did it in the old days. Sorry to say but it makes the game experience better. And then there's the additional revenue part.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't understand how someone could hate a jumbotron at a baseball game. It's like saying you hate indoor plumbing and prefer to [expletive] in a bucket because that's how they did it in the old days. Sorry to say but it makes the game experience better. And then there's the additional revenue part.

 

That is just as absurd a statement as the vehement anti-jumbotron crowd. It ads nothing.

[Banedon]

Not big enough.

 

http://i.imgur.com/mhZ9RbT.jpg

[neely crenshaw]

It makes sense to have one at wrigley, half the people don't realize they are at a live game anyway. Might as well add to the sports bar experience for them.

I can take or leave them. They usually appeal to the borderline baseball fans rather than the hardcore people that go to games for the actual baseball not the fan experience. Might help get some kids to get into the game. If they think it will help build the club, don't have a problem.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Not big enough.

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/mhZ9RbT.jpg

Since when does Rizzo bat RH and play for the Diamondbacks. Your picture is dumb.

[bukie]

The Cubs should just install an Omnimax dome, solve two problems at once.

[KingCubsFan]

I don't understand how someone could hate a jumbotron at a baseball game. It's like saying you hate indoor plumbing and prefer to [expletive] in a bucket because that's how they did it in the old days. Sorry to say but it makes the game experience better. And then there's the additional revenue part.

 

That is just as absurd a statement as the vehement anti-jumbotron crowd. It ads nothing.

It's nice to see expanded stats and replays. I never really got why people are so aggresively against it.

[SouthSideRyan]

I don't understand how someone could hate a jumbotron at a baseball game. It's like saying you hate indoor plumbing and prefer to [expletive] in a bucket because that's how they did it in the old days. Sorry to say but it makes the game experience better. And then there's the additional revenue part.

 

It doesn't really make the game experience better. The revenue is what matters

[Sammy Sofa]

I don't understand how someone could hate a jumbotron at a baseball game. It's like saying you hate indoor plumbing and prefer to [expletive] in a bucket because that's how they did it in the old days. Sorry to say but it makes the game experience better. And then there's the additional revenue part.

 

That is just as absurd a statement as the vehement anti-jumbotron crowd. It ads nothing.

 

Oh, jersey; you and your clever puns.