Wrigley Renovation Thread

[Splendid Splinter]

Royals have the largest jumbotron in baseball which is I believe over 8000 sq ft. Diamondbacks have one around 8,000 as well.

 

Edit: Cowboys is 11,500 sq ft

 

 

Darn... I was hoping a Jumbotron that wrapped around the entire OF bleachers and become the world's biggest Jumbotron. Just to piss off the rooftops.

[Sammy Sofa]

Royals have the largest jumbotron in baseball which is I believe over 8000 sq ft. Diamondbacks have one around 8,000 as well.

 

Well, yeah, I know scoreboards/JumboTron's as big or bigger than the proposed sizse exist; the point is that a JumboTron the size of the scoreboard at Wrigley would look really weird vs. stadiums that were built to have such things. I am in no way opposed to one at all; the size just doesn't seem very practical.

[d_money]

Is JumboTron an actual brand/company? Or is this this like Kleenex or xerox?

[UMFan83]

Is JumboTron an actual brand/company? Or is this this like Kleenex or xerox?

 

Sony created the "Jumbotron" so yeah it's a brand name.

[bhogg]

Could the cubs buy out the remaining 10-11 years in the rooftop contract?

[Geech]

Could the cubs buy out the remaining 10-11 years in the rooftop contract?

 

I don't think the specific contracts have ever been revealed to the general public, so we really don't know that. There's been some speculation that the contracts do not even protect the rooftop owners' views of the park, though.

[UMFan83]

Could the cubs buy out the remaining 10-11 years in the rooftop contract?

 

I don't think the specific contracts have ever been revealed to the general public, so we really don't know that. There's been some speculation that the contracts do not even protect the rooftop owners' views of the park, though.

 

What leg would they have to stand on then? I guess just Tunney protecting their interests.

[crazycooter]

Could the cubs buy out the remaining 10-11 years in the rooftop contract?

 

The answer is almost certainly yes. Buyout clauses are included in business contracts as a matter of course. I would never allow a client to sign a contract that didn't have a buyout/termination clause. I can't imagine that the Cubs would sign a 20 year deal with anyone for anything that didn't have buyout specifications.

 

To me, the only question is how much it would cost the Cubs to do it.

[NewUserName]

I think NSBB may want to consider having a thread titled Business Law Advice From crazycooter I think that would really set them apart from the standard Cardinal site

[Ryne Ween]

How much can a jumbotron bring in for the team? It cant be that much, right? I dont understand the appeal of a jumbotron from the fan's perspective.

[Sammy Sofa]

How much can a jumbotron bring in for the team? It cant be that much, right?

 

You can display a LOT of ads and signs in 3+ hours.

[Cubswin11]

How much can a jumbotron bring in for the team? It cant be that much, right?I dont understand the appeal of a jumbotron from the fan's perspective.

What? I'm assuming you've seen a baseball game in a modern stadium with a jumbotron. Every half inning they are changing sponsor logos on the board and have the dumb kiss cam/racing games/guess attendance stuff brought to you by "insert company xyz."

 

They are going to be able to offer a lot of different levels of ad space to a lot of different companies that they can't currently do because all they have are fixed ads (which I would imagine price a lot of companies out due to the fact they are paying to be there the whole year and not every 7th inning on a Thursday or something).

[jersey cubs fan]

How much can a jumbotron bring in for the team? It cant be that much, right?

 

You can display a LOT of ads and signs in 3+ hours.

 

And those ads are limited to the 30,000 sets of eyeballs in the stadium. Are they more valuable than the fixed ads attached to the jumbotron that are seen by all in attendance plus every viewer on television, including highlights and still photos?

[Cubswin11]

How much can a jumbotron bring in for the team? It cant be that much, right?

 

You can display a LOT of ads and signs in 3+ hours.

 

And those ads are limited to the 30,000 sets of eyeballs in the stadium. Are they more valuable than the fixed ads attached to the jumbotron that are seen by all in attendance plus every viewer on television, including highlights and still photos?

No, they aren't as valuable as the fixed ones. But even with a jumbotron the fixed ones remain and a jumbotron opens up the revenue stream of revolving/temporary (whatever you want to call them) ads that can bring the Cubs revenue they don't even have the ability to access right now. Like I stated in my posts it opens the possiblity to let more companies in on advertising in Wrigley that can't afford a season long fixed board/ad but can afford some revolving ads for the season or a few months or something.

[Sammy Sofa]

How much can a jumbotron bring in for the team? It cant be that much, right?

 

You can display a LOT of ads and signs in 3+ hours.

 

And those ads are limited to the 30,000 sets of eyeballs in the stadium. Are they more valuable than the fixed ads attached to the jumbotron that are seen by all in attendance plus every viewer on television, including highlights and still photos?

 

Of course not.

[Guest]

http://www.noozebox.com/?p=7033

 

http://www.bleachernation.com/2013/03/28/obsessive-wrigley-renovation-watch-rooftop-owner-confirms-theyve-been-cut-out-of-talks/

 

In an interview with Chet Coppock posted to NoozeBox.com, Murphy confirmed that, indeed, the rooftop owners have been cut out of the negotiations. From Murphy’s perspective, Alderman Tom Tunney – whom she cautions is not merely in the pocket of the rooftops – is hopefully representing the rooftops’ interests (together with the rest of the neighborhood) in the negotiations with the Cubs and the City. In other words, that press release was as much a plea to Tunney (by way of trying to sway his constituents and public opinion) as to anyone.

 

That the rooftops do not currently have a seat at the negotiating table doesn’t necessarily mean that the Cubs are planning to block them out of existence – or could even if they wanted to. It also doesn’t necessarily mean that the negotiations have gotten any easier. Presumably, Tunney is still representing the rooftop interests in those negotiations, and maybe it’s for the best that the Cubs and the rooftops are essentially negotiating through an intermediary. Then it’s just business.

 

I think it’s fair to guess, however, that, if the Cubs/rooftop contract was absolutely iron-clad with respect to the Cubs not being able to block any rooftop views under any circumstances, it would be impossible to not have them at the negotiating table throughout this process. (Murphy told Coppock at she wishes the rooftops and other neighborhood associations were allowed to be involved in the negotiations, directly, meaning that the fact that they are currently excluded is not by their own choice.) In other words, the agreement – as we’ve suspected based on comments from those who have seen it, and from the reluctance of the rooftop owners to talk about the contract language – probably has some flabby provisions in it, and there’s room for the Cubs to maneuver. That’s probably the primary reason that the rooftops are relying on Tunney and the political process so extensively, rather than on their own contractual rights.

 

In the interview, Murphy says the rooftops are sticking to their offer to place advertising on the rooftop buildings and give that revenue to the Cubs, rather than to allow the Cubs to place advertising in Wrigley Field, which might block the rooftop views. She believes the Cubs should honor their agreement with the rooftops, and Coppock goes so far as to suggest that, if the Cubs were to move out of Wrigley Field, that would be a breach of the agreement with the rooftops (I’d imagine that’s going to rile some of you up, though it might technically be true).

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I can accept that newspapers are dying. But to be replaced by something called "NoozeBox" hurts a bit.

[jersey cubs fan]

[Disclosure: Some of the rooftops advertise on BN, but that has not affected the way I've covered this ongoing story.]

[davell]

So, the community wants 75,000 per additional nighttime event, for their inconvenience.

[jersey cubs fan]

So, the community wants 75,000 per additional nighttime event, for their inconvenience.

 

75,000 what?

[SouthSideRyan]

So, the community wants 75,000 per additional nighttime event, for their inconvenience.

 

75,000 what?

 

Ads on Bleacher Nation

[Guest]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2013/03/29/obsessive-wrigley-renovation-watch-the-mayor-speaks-jumbotron-fight-tunney-letter-rosemont-meeting-more/

 

Lots of stuff in the latest update, including some stuff on the JumboTron stuff Offman reported

 

Confirming a report by George Ofman, Cubs VP of Communications and Community Affairs Julian Green conceded that one of the issues right now is size of the JumboTron that the City and neighborhood would permit in Wrigley Field, per a Tribune report. Sources tell the Tribune that the Cubs are holding fast to a 6,000 square foot minimum for their board (the Trib says the Old Scoreboard is about 2,025 square feet), but the City wants it no larger than 3,000 square feet. The location of the board, and the extent to which it would block rooftop views, is also being discussed (seems logical that it would have to be in left center, since there are no rooftops there). The fact that they are dickering about the size and location of the JumboTron, however, is actually a good sign to me. It suggests that the sides have found agreement on the broader issues – will there be signage at all, will there be a JumboTron at all, etc. – and now they’re down to the details. That’s not to say the details couldn’t derail things, but at least it’s progress.

[Guest]

Brett did a to-scale mockup of a Jumbotron of the size the Cubs are talking about...

 

http://www.bleachernation.com/2013/03/30/a-visual-depiction-of-a-6000-square-foot-jumbotron-at-wrigley-and-other-bullets/

 

[UMFan83]

Holy hell that is huge. Makes you realize how small the footprint of Wrigley is compared to modern ballparks where a jumbotron that size doesnt stand out nearly as much.

[Sammy Sofa]

Holy hell that is huge. Makes you realize how small the footprint of Wrigley is compared to modern ballparks where a jumbotron that size doesnt stand out nearly as much.

 

Yeah, really. It's pretty ridiculous how tiny the place is. Maybe they could swing this if they bought out the old Budweiser House and put it out there?