NFL Offseason

[Guest]

"Not punished" is not the same as innocent.

[jersey cubs fan]

I really doubt his suspension will be reduced. This was Goodell directly sending a statement. It would be really weak to back off now.

 

He reduced the Ben's suspension after directly sending a statement about his ability to suspend people even without an arrest or conviction.

[OleMissCub]

If the Saints were actually trying to hurt people, they weren't very good at it.

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203370604577263580381162426.html

 

The NFL's accusation that the New Orleans Saints offered "bounty" payments to players for injuring opponents raises a few questions: How many potential payments are we talking about? Which Saints players were the biggest beneficiaries? And how many times did the Saints actually knock the tuna salad out of somebody?

 

A Wall Street Journal review of every regular- and postseason Saints game since 2009 makes clear what the NFL report didn't: Seldom did a Saints-inflicted injury force an opponent to leave the field.

 

In 48 regular-season and six postseason games, such incidents occurred only 18 times. The Saints player involved in the largest number of those cases was safety Roman Harper. That number was four.

 

The Saints can't even be classified as the league's dirtiest team. When it came to personal fouls—the most violent of on-field infractions—the Saints last season tallied 24, fifth-most in the NFL. Since 2009, the team has been whistled for 60 personal fouls, the sixth-highest figure.

[jersey cubs fan]

If the Saints were actually trying to hurt people, they weren't very good at it.

 

 

No need for the if. They were doing it. Were told to stop and refused to stop. They deserve to be hit simply by the immense idiocy pouring out of that franchise.

[OleMissCub]

If the Saints were actually trying to hurt people, they weren't very good at it.

 

No need for the if. They were doing it. Were told to stop and refused to stop. They deserve to be hit simply by the immense idiocy pouring out of that franchise.

 

I haven't and won't argue that they shouldn't be punished, I just think the moral outrage is being overblown i.e. "they have no souls!" or with fans of other teams pretending like their players would never have taken part in something like this because their brutes are far classier than the brutes on the Saints.

[jersey cubs fan]

If the Saints were actually trying to hurt people, they weren't very good at it.

 

No need for the if. They were doing it. Were told to stop and refused to stop. They deserve to be hit simply by the immense idiocy pouring out of that franchise.

 

I haven't and won't argue that they shouldn't be punished, I just think the moral outrage is being overblown i.e. "they have no souls!" or with fans of other teams pretending like their players would never have taken part in something like this because their brutes are far classier than the brutes on the Saints.

 

The moral outrage is uncalled for. Everybody has done this in one way shape or form. Where the Saints get in trouble is with their incredible stupidity to continue the practice after being specifically told to stop.

[OleMissCub]

 

The moral outrage is uncalled for. Everybody has done this in one way shape or form. Where the Saints get in trouble is with their incredible stupidity to continue the practice after being specifically told to stop.

 

it's pretty stupid, no doubt.

[dew1679666265]

Titans signed Kamerion Wimbley yesterday. 5 year/35 mil deal with 13.5 guaranteed and 11.5 of that in year 1.

 

Love this move.

[ELCABALLO45]

Tracy Porter signed with Denver. Always liked him.

[chuckywang]

If the Saints were actually trying to hurt people, they weren't very good at it.

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203370604577263580381162426.html

 

The NFL's accusation that the New Orleans Saints offered "bounty" payments to players for injuring opponents raises a few questions: How many potential payments are we talking about? Which Saints players were the biggest beneficiaries? And how many times did the Saints actually knock the tuna salad out of somebody?

 

A Wall Street Journal review of every regular- and postseason Saints game since 2009 makes clear what the NFL report didn't: Seldom did a Saints-inflicted injury force an opponent to leave the field.

 

In 48 regular-season and six postseason games, such incidents occurred only 18 times. The Saints player involved in the largest number of those cases was safety Roman Harper. That number was four.

 

The Saints can't even be classified as the league's dirtiest team. When it came to personal fouls—the most violent of on-field infractions—the Saints last season tallied 24, fifth-most in the NFL. Since 2009, the team has been whistled for 60 personal fouls, the sixth-highest figure.

 

The effectiveness of the program is not relevant to its existence.

[chuckywang]

If the Saints were actually trying to hurt people, they weren't very good at it.

 

No need for the if. They were doing it. Were told to stop and refused to stop. They deserve to be hit simply by the immense idiocy pouring out of that franchise.

 

I haven't and won't argue that they shouldn't be punished, I just think the moral outrage is being overblown i.e. "they have no souls!" or with fans of other teams pretending like their players would never have taken part in something like this because their brutes are far classier than the brutes on the Saints.

 

The moral outrage is uncalled for. Everybody has done this in one way shape or form. Where the Saints get in trouble is with their incredible stupidity to continue the practice after being specifically told to stop.

 

So if everybody committed the same infraction, that infraction is now morally just?

[dew1679666265]

Tracy Porter signed with Denver. Always liked him.

 

Bah. Titans had shown interest in him and he would have been nice CB depth to go along with McCourty and Verner.

[jersey cubs fan]

So if everybody committed the same infraction, that infraction is now morally just?

 

They don't have schools in packer land do they?

 

The moral outrage is unjustified.

[sneakypower]

Lions signed Everette Brown, which only matters because i can now post this classic:

 

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2009-03-04/mock-draft-everette-brown-climbs-top

[jersey cubs fan]

It's the neverending story

 

Tim Tebow will be introduced as the newest member of the New York Jets at a news conference on Monday.

 

But before he can join the Jets, Tebow -- because of a procedural issue -- will be required to sign a rewritten contract with the Denver Broncos on Friday and remain on Denver's salary cap for 24 hours thereafter, a source told ESPN's Ed Werder. That means the trade will not be official until 4 p.m. ET Saturday.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Lions signed Everette Brown, which only matters because i can now post this classic:

 

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2009-03-04/mock-draft-everette-brown-climbs-top

a swing and a miss

[Banedon]

Jeff Saturday to the Packers.

[OleMissCub]

Shockey goes on the defensive to show he wasn't the snitch by posting text messages...by showing that he and Sean Payton text like 16 year old girls.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/jeremy-shockey-gets-sean-payton-vouch-him-snitch-180812118.html

 

 

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/nwEe5rWxd_b2LbjZnkcI5g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnflexperts/Payton-Shockey-text.jpg

 

So what can we learn from this? Three things:

 

1) Shockey and Payton both believe that not being in defensive meetings means it's impossible that Shockey knew of any defensive bounty system. Which is not the case, of course.

 

2) Sean Payton loves to end sentences with multiple exclamation points!!!

 

3) Judging from the resolution of that screenshot, Jeremy Shockey has kind of an old iPhone.

 

And that's about it, really. Unless a real snitch comes forward (which is very unlikely to happen, and also, who knows if there even is a snitch, because there are about a million ways for something like this to get out), we'll probably never know the full truth about this.

And honestly, I don't care. Jeremy Shockey and Warren Sapp attacking each other's moral character is like Joey Harrington and Spergon Wynn comparing their Hall of Fame credentials.

[Andy]

Lions signed Everette Brown, which only matters because i can now post this classic:

 

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2009-03-04/mock-draft-everette-brown-climbs-top

What a gigantic waste of Carolina's 2010 1st round pick to draft that schlub. I still can't believe they traded a '10 1st round pick for a '09 2nd round pick.

[Flames24Rulz]

Jeff Saturday to the Packers.

 

Very good move. It's the first prominent UFA the Packers have signed since Woodson and Pickett in 2006.

[Soul]

So if everybody committed the same infraction, that infraction is now morally just?

 

They don't have schools in packer land do they?

 

The moral outrage is unjustified.

 

It sure looks like Goodell was willing to kill it quietly. The Saints wouldn't let him.

 

I don't know what about Goodell's prior behavior made Payton and/or Williams think they could do that and get away with it.

[ELCABALLO45]

Love the Saturday sign.

 

And I would love to read above that text message that says "HUG!!" from Payton.

[erik316wttn]

Jeff Saturday to the Packers.

 

Very good move. It's the first prominent UFA the Packers have signed since Woodson and Pickett in 2006.

 

I heard this today. Great move. O-line and D (especially the pass rush) should be our only priorities this offseason in terms of bringing in new personnel.

[erik316wttn]

Drew Stanton traded to the Colts. The Manning Triangle is now complete.

[dew1679666265]

Bengals sign Derrick Harvey and Jamaal Anderson. Good low risk moves there.