NFL Offseason

[cubweiser03]

"1 Cart-off - Crank up the John Deer (sic) Tractor"

Haha.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm thinking Payton may have coached his last game with the Saints.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

I'm thinking Payton may have coached his last game with the Saints.

 

Any word on who's taking over that job?

 

Do they even have Brees under a non-franchise tag contract yet?

[OleMissCub]

I'm thinking Payton may have coached his last game with the Saints.

 

I doubt that. His suspension may still get reduced and he's signed through 2015.

 

 

Any word on who's taking over that job?

 

Do they even have Brees under a non-franchise tag contract yet?

 

Spags will likely be interim head coach.

 

And no, Brees for some odd reason doesn't have a contract yet.

[Soul]

How much of that offense will suffer without Payton's guidance? I think that's probably the question. Otherwise known as: how good an on-the-field coach is Brees?

 

It'll be an interesting year in NO, that's for sure.

 

I really doubt his suspension will be reduced. This was Goodell directly sending a statement. It would be really weak to back off now.

[ELCABALLO45]

There is no way or should the NFL reduce Payton's suspension.

[Derwood]

the GM's suspension doesn't start until the end of the pre-season, so it won't affect a Brees signing

[NonProfitCow]

There is no way or should the NFL reduce Payton's suspension.

Yeah, not a chance in hell of that happening OMC.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

How much of that offense will suffer without Payton's guidance? I think that's probably the question. Otherwise known as: how good an on-the-field coach is Brees?

 

It'll be an interesting year in NO, that's for sure.

 

I really doubt his suspension will be reduced. This was Goodell directly sending a statement. It would be really weak to back off now.

 

I'm actually really interested in this myself. Huge believer in coaches coaching and players playing, and that a team with a legit franchise QB will be in the hunt 10/10 so long as that QB is healthy.

[Guest]

How much of that offense will suffer without Payton's guidance? I think that's probably the question. Otherwise known as: how good an on-the-field coach is Brees?

 

It'll be an interesting year in NO, that's for sure.

 

I really doubt his suspension will be reduced. This was Goodell directly sending a statement. It would be really weak to back off now.

 

I'm actually really interested in this myself. Huge believer in coaches coaching and players playing, and that a team with a legit franchise QB will be in the hunt 10/10 so long as that QB is healthy.

 

Example A: The Colts and Jim Caldwell.

[SouthSideRyan]

There is no way or should the NFL reduce Payton's suspension.

 

I heard the person who reported the cash for hits thing was actually a Cubs fan, and made up the story just to get them in trouble.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

How much of that offense will suffer without Payton's guidance? I think that's probably the question. Otherwise known as: how good an on-the-field coach is Brees?

 

It'll be an interesting year in NO, that's for sure.

 

I really doubt his suspension will be reduced. This was Goodell directly sending a statement. It would be really weak to back off now.

 

I'm actually really interested in this myself. Huge believer in coaches coaching and players playing, and that a team with a legit franchise QB will be in the hunt 10/10 so long as that QB is healthy.

 

Example A: The Colts and Jim Caldwell.

 

Yep. Plus as a Jet fan I'm sick of watching coaches eat fan and media bullets for the garbage talent they consistently field at QB. They lost some really good offensive coaches (IMO - most people HATE Brian Schottenheimer and no one cares about Ellard the former WR coach) that otherwise probably would have done really well with us given a QB who can play like a QB should be able to play in today's NFL.

 

I have few doubts the Saints will be in it because they have that franchise QB, but I want to see where, when, and how they drop offensively.

 

Edit: Not even sure this would tell us much in the end, would it? Sample size...they lost the DC as well...Are these already excuses?

[chuckywang]

If I paid money for another person to hurt somebody else and potentially end their livelihood, I'd be arrested and put in jail. I wouldn't get to come back to my job after a 1 year suspension.

[OleMissCub]

The melodrama among some in the media is completely absurd.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-carpenter_sean_payton_saints_gregg_williams_bounty_032112

 

'Sean Payton and the Saints traded their souls to bring New Orleans a Super Bowl title'

 

Now Payton is gone for a year, probably never to return to the Saints. He can’t come back. Not after this. Without their genius play-caller and the man who burned so much to win, the Saints are done as a Super Bowl contender. What good is Drew Brees without the man who made him one of the league’s best quarterbacks? Slowly the great offensive machine collapses. A football darkness falls in New Orleans again.

 

Lingering forever is the trophy, gleaming, glistening; the one that sent the city into an uproarious delight on the night it was won from the wild celebration in the French Quarter to the thousands who stood in the darkness on a Treme street corner singing “When the Saints Come Marching In.”

 

Always now the symbol of all who sold their souls to make it happen.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I only wish this happened to GB more.

 

Well, maybe NE too.

[chuckywang]

I only wish this happened to GB more.

 

Well, maybe NE too.

 

LOL GB actually has class.

[OleMissCub]

I only wish this happened to GB more.

 

Well, maybe NE too.

 

It almost did. Unfortunately for you they haven't been caught a second time. This from 2007.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/packers/2007-11-26-nfl-ruling_N.htm?AID=4992781&PID=4169842&SID=qnwjjn7d4usn

 

Green Bay Packers players no longer can offer teammates financial incentives for their on-field performance, but the NFL will not punish them for violating the league's "bounty rule."

 

The bounties admitted to by the Packers were of a less "violent" nature though.

[minnesotacubsfan]

OH COMON NFL, BAN THOSE BASTARDS

[SouthSideRyan]

If I paid money for another person to hurt somebody else and potentially end their livelihood, I'd be arrested and put in jail. I wouldn't get to come back to my job after a 1 year suspension.

 

Unless the person trying you was a Bears fan who probably tainted the video.

[OleMissCub]

I only wish this happened to GB more.

 

Well, maybe NE too.

 

LOL GB actually has class.

 

Other than the nasty hit that McCray put on Favre's legs that they are showing ad nauseum on ESPN, I'd like to see a Saints hit from the past few years that had more of a chance of ending someone's livelihood than this hit at 2:30

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d804144c4/Packers-34-Vikings-0

 

That hit taking place in a game where it has since been established that a bounty existed of some sort on Peterson. It's not some logical leap to imagine that there were bounties in that locker room that weren't so vanilla as the tame ones they admitted to.

[Splendid_Splinter]

I only wish this happened to GB more.

 

Well, maybe NE too.

 

LOL GB actually has class.

 

Other than the nasty hit that McCray put on Favre's legs that they are showing ad nauseum on ESPN, I'd like to see a Saints hit from the past few years that had more of a chance of ending someone's livelihood than this hit at 2:30

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d804144c4/Packers-34-Vikings-0

 

That hit taking place in a game where it has since been established that a bounty existed of some sort on Peterson. It's not some logical leap to imagine that there were bounties in that locker room that weren't so vanilla as the tame ones they admitted to.

It is the intent that matters. Given that football is a violent game sometimes players can be seriously injured from similar hits to the one between Al Harris and Adrian Peterson. Two other similar injuries I can think of are Will Allen's hit on Willis McGahee in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl that tore every ligament in his left knee and Lawrence Taylor's sack of Joe Thiesmann. It does not mean that a defensive player intends to injure an offensive player. Sometimes freak injuries happen.

 

According to the article you posted the financial incentive the Packers had was to keep Peterson under 100 yards. Looking back at the box score, up until Peterson's injury the Packers held him to 45 rushing yards with a little more than a quarter to play. My guess is that Al Harris's tackle was less about an intent to injure Peterson to make sure he did not reach 100 yards, but rather hitting Peterson low to bring him down more easily.

 

You do make a good point that the Packers may have had actual bounties, but at this point there is no evidence of that beyond speculation.

[ELCABALLO45]

If I paid money for another person to hurt somebody else and potentially end their livelihood, I'd be arrested and put in jail. I wouldn't get to come back to my job after a 1 year suspension.

 

Unless the person trying you was a Bears fan who probably tainted the video.

 

Or even worse, NFL Network makes up a story in wanting to be the first one to reporting it and they find out it was a mistake.

[XZero771679666304]

If I paid money for another person to hurt somebody else and potentially end their livelihood, I'd be arrested and put in jail. I wouldn't get to come back to my job after a 1 year suspension.

 

Unless the person trying you was a Bears fan who probably tainted the video.

 

Or even worse, NFL Network makes up a story in wanting to be the first one to reporting it and they find out it was a mistake.

 

In which case you'd avoid suspension even though what was reported was true. Obfuscation of the truth FTW!

[ELCABALLO45]

If I paid money for another person to hurt somebody else and potentially end their livelihood, I'd be arrested and put in jail. I wouldn't get to come back to my job after a 1 year suspension.

 

Unless the person trying you was a Bears fan who probably tainted the video.

 

Or even worse, NFL Network makes up a story in wanting to be the first one to reporting it and they find out it was a mistake.

 

In which case you'd avoid suspension even though what was reported was true. Obfuscation of the truth FTW!

 

And you would prove your case and you would be proven innocent by the court system, and if NFL Network doesn't leak a false story it never becomes news. Feel bad for others who might end up getting a tainted video as well.

[XZero771679666304]

If I paid money for another person to hurt somebody else and potentially end their livelihood, I'd be arrested and put in jail. I wouldn't get to come back to my job after a 1 year suspension.

 

Unless the person trying you was a Bears fan who probably tainted the video.

 

Or even worse, NFL Network makes up a story in wanting to be the first one to reporting it and they find out it was a mistake.

 

In which case you'd avoid suspension even though what was reported was true. Obfuscation of the truth FTW!

 

And you would prove your case and you would be proven innocent by the court system, and if NFL Network doesn't leak a false story it never becomes news. Feel bad for others who might end up getting a tainted video as well.

 

Well, if the story were proven to be false.