Cashner and Na traded for Rizzo and Cates

[Shilzzz]

there was a tweet...

[Shilzzz]

San Diego Padres @Padres 1m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open

#Padres acquire former 1st-round pick RHP Andrew Cashner and outfielder Kyung-Min Na from #Cubs in exchange for INF Rizzo and RHP Cates

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[jersey cubs fan]

really?

[Guest]

MLBTR and Bruce Miles are confirming the deal.

[utkcub]

Cashner + Kyung-Min Na

 

for

 

Rizzo + Zach Cates

 

I don't hate it, theres our first basemen of the future.

[SouthSideRyan]

Well that was sudden. If we weren't going to use Cashner as anything but a reliever, then this is a great deal. I don't agree with that decision, but I guess I have to trust those in charge in that regard.

[Shilzzz]

apparently so. mlb trade rumors is running with it, as well as MLB's official twitter.

huh...

[SouthSideRyan]

And we apparently are in fact cutting payroll by 40M

[jersey cubs fan]

a guy in my office just emailed a seperate link, that happened in a hurry.

[Shilzzz]

i love the crap out of this deal, actually. Cashner has a chance, but i'll take a humongous star potential everyday player over a pitcher in limbo with great stuff but has already been injured too often

[UMFan83]

I love Cashner but um wow what

[utkcub]

I for one am on the Rizzo bandwagon hardcore, he has the potential to be Adrian Gonzalez lite.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I like this deal.

[WrigleyField 22]

I think this is good?

[manbearcub]

i love the crap out of this deal, actually. Cashner has a chance, but i'll take a humongous star potential everyday player over a pitcher in limbo with great stuff but has already been injured too often

Agreed although I'd like to hear what people think of Cates.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I enjoy this trade.

 

I have to admit that I was really worried Cash wasn't going to ever be able to log the innings of a starter. That was just a feeling, though. No numbers to support that. Other than him missing most of last year with an arm injury.

[jersey cubs fan]

i love the crap out of this deal, actually. Cashner has a chance, but i'll take a humongous star potential everyday player over a pitcher in limbo with great stuff but has already been injured too often

 

I think that's how I feel about it as well. A poor man's version of my Tex over Prior opinion.

[treebird]

my first reaction is that i have no idea how to value cashner. it seems like he was probably going to just get stuck in the bullpen or something. i guess we would've been in a good position to take the time and stretch him out to start, but i really don't know how likely that would be. is there any reason to think it would've been a good idea to let him throw more than like 120-140 innings this year?

 

i think i am okay with this.

[UMFan83]

And we apparently are in fact cutting payroll by 40M

?

 

Edit: Oh yeah, no fielder.

[jersey cubs fan]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=cates-002zac

 

Zach Cates

[Hairyducked Idiot]

It's hard to compare 1b prospects to P prospects, but I really think Rizzo is the best player in the deal.

 

I hate the stupid PCL for making it impossible to trust AAA hitting numbers, though.

[treebird]

also, what with the starlin stuff, i think this means anthony rizzo is my favorite cub.

[tfarks]

my first reaction is that i have no idea how to value cashner. it seems like he was probably going to just get stuck in the bullpen or something. i guess we would've been in a good position to take the time and stretch him out to start, but i really don't know how likely that would be. is there any reason to think it would've been a good idea to let him throw more than like 120-140 innings this year?

 

i think i am okay with this.

 

This sums up my thoughts well. And since reading about Rizzo I've been a big fan of bringing him aboard.

[UMFan83]

Wow...will he start the season on the Cubs? Or will they seriously give LaHair a look and try to cut a year off his arb years?

[SouthSideRyan]

Cates received the largest 3rd round bonus in the 2010 draft. Didn't move to the mound full-time until the 2010 college season.

 

2011 Stats

 

HR/9: 0.3

BB/9: 4.0

K/9: 8.5

WP: 15

Edited January 6, 2012 by SouthSideRyan