Chicago Bulls Playoff Thread

[apete6]

Tribune has something up echoing the discussion here about thibs playing guys when they are coming off injuries or have nagging but not quite injuries.

 

Aparently wailing about starting Keith Bogans has morphed into this. In this city, people will never be happy with anything. If the medical staff says a guy is good to go, then he is good to go and thibs should use him. We are a young team trying to win a championship, we will NEVER beat the Heat in a 7 gamer without HCA. They have to win every game. Without Rose any team in the NBA can beat us on their home floor. Remember when Memphis waxed us on MLK day?

 

I dont think ive ever seen a team cautiously rest a young superstar when he was cleared to play. One other thing, based on the fact he choked out VDN in front of all of Chicagos media people, we know Paxson is sensitive about overusing injured players, and he does not seem to be putting a stop to this; thus im satisfied.

 

I don't agree with this.

 

Because we will probably never beat the Heat even with HCA?

[Flames24Rulz]

Tribune has something up echoing the discussion here about thibs playing guys when they are coming off injuries or have nagging but not quite injuries.

 

Aparently wailing about starting Keith Bogans has morphed into this. In this city, people will never be happy with anything. If the medical staff says a guy is good to go, then he is good to go and thibs should use him. We are a young team trying to win a championship, we will NEVER beat the Heat in a 7 gamer without HCA. They have to win every game. Without Rose any team in the NBA can beat us on their home floor. Remember when Memphis waxed us on MLK day?

 

I dont think ive ever seen a team cautiously rest a young superstar when he was cleared to play. One other thing, based on the fact he choked out VDN in front of all of Chicagos media people, we know Paxson is sensitive about overusing injured players, and he does not seem to be putting a stop to this; thus im satisfied.

 

I don't agree with this.

 

I don't think we can beat the Heat in a seven game series (as currently constructed), HCA or not.

[Ryne Ween]

They got 50 games in 3 months in 1999. Im going by memory on who the stars of the time were:: age / name / mpg / games

 

20 Kobe 37.9 50

22 Duncan 39.3 50

26 Shaq 34.8 (i assume foul trouble) 49

25 C Webb 40.5 42

22 Garnett 37.9 47

23 AI 41.5 48

25 Kidd 42.1 50

26 G Hill 37.0 50

27 Penny 38.9 50

 

Its pretty simple, what some people are asking of thibs is to do something never done before.

[bcl412]

I see no reason the Bulls can't beat the Heat in a 7 game series.

[Ryne Ween]

I don't think we can beat the Heat in

a seven game series (as currently constructed), HCA or not.

 

From a hoops standpoint i think we are almost as good as them. Their guys know how to get the whistle and ours dont.

[apete6]

I don't think we can beat the Heat in

a seven game series (as currently constructed), HCA or not.

 

From a hoops standpoint i think we are almost as good as them. Their guys know how to get the whistle and ours dont.

 

And they have LeBron who can neutralize DRose in end game situations. We don't have 2 guys who can keep LBJ and Wade in check the whole game. Overall, we're very close, but the last 3 times the Bulls have played the Heat, Bulls have basically been terrible at the end of the game. That's not a coincidence.

[SpongeWorthy]

I'm not worried about Rose's minutes but I don't really think it makes much sense to run him out there against teams we can beat the tar out of anyway when he has these nagging injuries.

 

And the Heat aren't that great. I think people got scared of them in theory more than in practice because they figured they could add to the Big 3 and become invincible. But they're still weak where they were last year and Wade's a year older.

[SouthSideRyan]

I dont think ive ever seen a team cautiously rest a young superstar when he was cleared to play. One other thing, based on the fact he choked out VDN in front of all of Chicagos media people, we know Paxson is sensitive about overusing injured players, and he does not seem to be putting a stop to this; thus im satisfied.

 

It's a lot easier to be sensitive about it to the .500 coach than to the coach who took you to the 1 seed.

[jersey cubs fan]

Its pretty simple, what some people are asking of thibs is to do something never done before.

 

In sports, that's about the worst argument to support an argument.

[cubbyvirus00]

Wade's having his worst year since his rookie season. The Bulls definitely have a chance IF they are playing full strength.

[Ryne Ween]

And they have LeBron who can neutralize DRose in end game situations. We don't have 2 guys who can keep LBJ and Wade in check the whole game. Overall, we're very close, but the last 3 times the Bulls have played the Heat, Bulls have basically been terrible at the end of the game. That's not a coincidence.

 

Using my own eye test, deng and ronnie are about as good as any wing defenders in the league. We have to do a better job on Bosh though. he was 42/70 from floor and 32/35 at the line. We have to do a better job on him.

[Ryne Ween]

Its pretty simple, what some people are asking of thibs is to do something never done before.

 

In sports, that's about the worst argument to support an argument.

 

You have the burden of establishing a corrollary between regular season minutes played and something else. To my knowledge such a thing does not exist.

 

The only team i can think of that i actually felt was not going full blast in the regular season, kinda limped into the post season, and then turned it on was the 2010 celtics. Two things of importance there: (i) Their core was old, (ii) Thibs was on that staff.

[ConstableRabbit]

Wade's having his worst year since his rookie season. The Bulls definitely have a chance IF they are playing full strength.

This means nothing.

[rawaction]

LUOL DENG IS AN ALL-STAR! A year too late, but well deserved. =D>

[Ryne Ween]

I wonder how history will remember Paul pierce career. 10 time all star possibly the highest scoring celtic of all time. NBA finals MVP. He has the credentials to be remembered as a great.

[Ryne Ween]

Also. So I guess it's been decided. Monta will never be an all-star.

[SpongeWorthy]

go Lu

[Ryne Ween]

go Lu

 

I have a feeling he's gonna be a controversial pick.

[UMFan83]

I don't think we can beat the Heat in

a seven game series (as currently constructed), HCA or not.

 

From a hoops standpoint i think we are almost as good as them. Their guys know how to get the whistle and ours dont.

 

And they have LeBron who can neutralize DRose in end game situations. We don't have 2 guys who can keep LBJ and Wade in check the whole game. Overall, we're very close, but the last 3 times the Bulls have played the Heat, Bulls have basically been terrible at the end of the game. That's not a coincidence.

 

Ugh, not this argument again. There was a thread on RealGM after the last Heat game that refutes this...having trouble finding it at the moment.

 

And even if that was completely true, you act like this is written in stone and will never change. Rose will never be able to do anything with LeBron defending him. The kid is 23 and still evolving his game, its very plausible that Rose can find a way to succeed with LeBron guarding him.

[UMFan83]

I wonder how history will remember Paul pierce career. 10 time all star possibly the highest scoring celtic of all time. NBA finals MVP. He has the credentials to be remembered as a great.

 

I thought that was pretty obvious.

[UMFan83]

LUOL DENG IS AN ALL-STAR! A year too late, but well deserved. =D>

 

Several years too late. His offensive numbers in 06-07 blow away his numbers this year, and his D was very good, if not to this year's standards. Chicago won 49 games that year and had no All Stars, so its not difficult to suggest that he should have represented the Bulls.

 

06-07: 18.8 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 2.5 APG, .517 (!!) FG%, .143 3PT% (only attempted seven 3's), 18.7 PER

 

11-12: 16.0 PPG, 7.3 RPG, 2.5 APG, .439 FG%, .371 3PT%, 16.29 PER.

 

This is not to say he doesn't deserve it this year because he definitely does. But his monster year in 07 went unrewarded.

[Ryne Ween]

I wonder how history will remember Paul pierce career. 10 time all star possibly the highest scoring celtic of all time. NBA finals MVP. He has the credentials to be remembered as a great.

 

I thought that was pretty obvious.

 

It's hard to get past the wheelchair.

[DivineBovine]

Tribune has something up echoing the discussion here about thibs playing guys when they are coming off injuries or have nagging but not quite injuries.

 

Aparently wailing about starting Keith Bogans has morphed into this. In this city, people will never be happy with anything. If the medical staff says a guy is good to go, then he is good to go and thibs should use him. We are a young team trying to win a championship, we will NEVER beat the Heat in a 7 gamer without HCA. They have to win every game. Without Rose any team in the NBA can beat us on their home floor. Remember when Memphis waxed us on MLK day?

 

I dont think ive ever seen a team cautiously rest a young superstar when he was cleared to play. One other thing, based on the fact he choked out VDN in front of all of Chicagos media people, we know Paxson is sensitive about overusing injured players, and he does not seem to be putting a stop to this; thus im satisfied.

 

I don't agree with this.

 

I don't think we can beat the Heat in a seven game series (as currently constructed), HCA or not.

 

 

A lot of people give the Bulls no chance. Whatever. [Dennis Green voice] If you want to crown them, then crown their ass. Let all the pundits talk about how LeBron is going to defend Rose and take him out of the game..blah blah blah.

 

They beat us if 5 games last year, but the Bulls gave games away. If the Bulls had even one guy who could occasionally make an open jumper, it could've been very different. Even with Rose not playing great. I mean, Korver was bricking shots like Chris Dudley. Let's see what happens with one deep playoff run under their belt. Nobody on the Bulls had been there before. They played well defensively, but they played uncharacteristically bad offensively.

 

Give them another shot or two before writing them off.

[Guest]

Wade's having his worst year since his rookie season. The Bulls definitely have a chance IF they are playing full strength.

This means nothing.

 

What?

[Guest]

Tribune has something up echoing the discussion here about thibs playing guys when they are coming off injuries or have nagging but not quite injuries.

 

Aparently wailing about starting Keith Bogans has morphed into this. In this city, people will never be happy with anything. If the medical staff says a guy is good to go, then he is good to go and thibs should use him. We are a young team trying to win a championship, we will NEVER beat the Heat in a 7 gamer without HCA. They have to win every game. Without Rose any team in the NBA can beat us on their home floor. Remember when Memphis waxed us on MLK day?

 

I dont think ive ever seen a team cautiously rest a young superstar when he was cleared to play. One other thing, based on the fact he choked out VDN in front of all of Chicagos media people, we know Paxson is sensitive about overusing injured players, and he does not seem to be putting a stop to this; thus im satisfied.

 

I don't agree with this.

 

I don't think we can beat the Heat in a seven game series (as currently constructed), HCA or not.

 

What does this mean? You think the Bulls win 0/10 times?

 

Why would anyone think we CAN'T beat them? I can understand thinking we would be more likely to lose than not, but I don't understand when people say things like this, especially when the team it is being said about is as good as this one.