Who will be the manager? Quade Fired (pg 15)

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I find it odd that Epstein would be so interested in Sandberg, who seems to have the complete opposite baseball philosophy than he does.

 

I don't think they are incompatible, other than something stupid like a fractional run expectancy difference on sac bunts.

[erik316wttn]

I find it odd that Epstein would be so interested in Sandberg, who seems to have the complete opposite baseball philosophy than he does.

 

Do we even know what type of philosophy Sandberg has?

 

From what I've heard he seems to be exceedingly "small ball."

[gus_dog]

Sandberg flew into Chicago today. It may mean nothing, but still...

 

Source?

 

I told you he was on my plane.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-1026-sandberg-cubs-chicago--20111026,0,5554219.story

[C.C.]

Who cares? You know he's eventually going to be interviewed for the job, so what's the big deal?

[Banedon]

And he has a home in Chicago. And Quade hasn't been fired, so he wasn't coming to interview.

[Guest]

I find it odd that Epstein would be so interested in Sandberg, who seems to have the complete opposite baseball philosophy than he does.

 

I don't think they are incompatible, other than something stupid like a fractional run expectancy difference on sac bunts.

 

 

Depends if he believes in pitchers being gutsy and pitching complete game shutouts when his team is up 5-0 or not.

[treebird]

you guys vince vaughn is in chicago this proves i was telling the truth when i said i slapped him in the face on amtrak a week ago

[C.C.]

you guys vince vaughn is in chicago this proves i was telling the truth when i said i slapped him in the face on amtrak a week ago

 

Except for the flaw in your story that you couldn't reach that high to slap him.

[Magnetic Curses]

I find it odd that Epstein would be so interested in Sandberg, who seems to have the complete opposite baseball philosophy than he does.

 

Do we even know what type of philosophy Sandberg has?

 

From what I've heard he seems to be exceedingly "small ball."

 

"small ball" isn't really a dangerous philosophy for a large market team to have. people seem hung up on this. if theo puts a good team in front of him, he can do little to screw it up with the occasional bunting and stealing and micromanaging.

 

in the regular season, at least.

[jersey cubs fan]

"small ball" isn't really a dangerous philosophy for a large market team to have.

 

what the hell does that mean?

[rocket]

here's my theory sure to be wrong:

 

theo thinks that the manager, while not unimportant, doesn't have a signficant impact on wins and losses.

 

he knows that ryno's dream job is to manage the cubs, and that ryno will be willing to play the game 'the cubs way' to get his job.

 

he knows he'll get some cred from the meatball cubs fans if they hire ryno.

 

and even with ryno's tendency for small ball, it's very likely that the reports are that his players like playing for ryno, they respect him, he keeps his players focused and ready, and other fun intangibles.

 

so basically, i would be surprised if our manager in 2012 was anyone but ryne sandberg.

[mul21]

"small ball" isn't really a dangerous philosophy for a large market team to have.

 

what the hell does that mean?

 

Probably that there's enough money to get big bats in the lineup that it's harder for a manager to screw it up too often by micromanaging because there's a bunch of runs being scored in spite of the meddling.

[C.C.]

here's my theory sure to be wrong:

 

theo thinks that the manager, while not unimportant, doesn't have a signficant impact on wins and losses.

 

he knows that ryno's dream job is to manage the cubs, and that ryno will be willing to play the game 'the cubs way' to get his job.

 

he knows he'll get some cred from the meatball cubs fans if they hire ryno.

 

and even with ryno's tendency for small ball, it's very likely that the reports are that his players like playing for ryno, they respect him, he keeps his players focused and ready, and other fun intangibles.

 

so basically, i would be surprised if our manager in 2012 was anyone but ryne sandberg.

 

I don't think Theo needs Ryno for cred, and I don't think he gives a [expletive]. He'll hire the best manager for the job. Or if he's eyeing someone for next year, he'll keep the current stiff for another year.

[Magnetic Curses]

"small ball" isn't really a dangerous philosophy for a large market team to have.

 

what the hell does that mean?

 

a well put-together large market team is going to have bats that produce runs no matter what. if the cubs have a talented, productive lineup, bunting situationally isn't really going to hurt. and i doubt that ryno will be looked upon kindly if he's bunting with the second batter of the game with regularity or ever, actually.

[OleMissCub]

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7151119/chicago-cubs-president-theo-epstein-admires-ryne-sandberg

 

New Chicago Cubs president of baseball operations Theo Epstein talked Wednesday about how much he admires Ryne Sandberg, but that's about as far as he went when asked about the possibility of Sandberg replacing Mike Quade as Cubs manager next season.

 

"That would be way premature to talk about," Epstein said on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000. "Ryne Sandberg obviously was a great Cub, great player, great guy by all accounts, but he's a Philadelphia Phillie. He's a Triple-A manager. It would be just so premature for us to talk about that."

 

But almost as soon as Epstein was mentioned as a possibility for the Cubs, the fact he wanted Sandberg to manage the Boston Red Sox's Triple-A team in Pawtucket had people connecting dots that would lead Sandberg to replace Quade. The Cubs' 71-91 record also fueled that speculation.

 

While Epstein wouldn't talk about Sandberg as potentially the Cubs' manager, he did talk about Sandberg the individual.

 

"I can't talk too much about it because he's with another organization, but [i probably see] the same things you see," Epstein said. "He was the most humble Hall of Famer I ever met. And he demonstrated as much respect for the game as anyone I ever met.

 

"Those things stand out about him. Beyond that, you're not going to ask me about the Triple-A manager for the Royals, I'm sure."

[Tyrant]

Beyond that, you're not going to ask me about the Triple-A manager for the Royals, I'm sure.

 

Damn it.

[Guest]

And he has a home in Chicago. And Quade hasn't been fired, so he wasn't coming to interview.

Theo's MO in Boston to keep Grady Little for a year before he hired Francona.

 

If he keeps Quade I sure as hell hope they work with him on managing a pitching staff, of all the flaws, that was the most glaring.

 

Quade seems to understand analytical baseball in the abstract, but he put it to little practical use during games.

[Hollandsworths mug]

This is terrible. Shouldn't it be "slicked-back"? C'mon KC!

 

This is slicked-back hair:

http://www.yeshairstyles.com/wp-content/gallery/leonard-dicaprio/leonardo-dicaprio-slicked-back-hair.jpg

 

What Ryno has is slick-backed, because the only part of his head with hair is the back...., and it is slick.

 

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yNaMhXbS85o/SvcWCQg7ciI/AAAAAAAAAPU/AxSvpmFHcCc/s400/hs.bmp

[davearm2]

If we set aside the smallball stuff (which we can't even definitively say Sandberg would ascribe to at the bigleague level), I can see Sandberg fitting well with a lot of the organization-building principles Epstein emphasizes. If ever there was a "do things the right way" player, it was Sandberg, and he'll surely hold people accountable.

 

Personally, my fear with Sandberg is that his personality would be too overbearing to play well in a clubhouse full of veteran guys.

[C.C.]

If we set aside the smallball stuff (which we can't even definitively say Sandberg would ascribe to at the bigleague level), I can see Sandberg fitting well with a lot of the organization-building principles Epstein emphasizes. If ever there was a "do things the right way" player, it was Sandberg, and he'll surely hold people accountable.

 

Personally, my fear with Sandberg is that his personality would be too overbearing to play well in a clubhouse full of veteran guys.

 

Never hurt Ozzie much.

[Sammy Sofa]

If ever there was a "do things the right way" player, it was Sandberg, and he'll surely hold people accountable.

 

Oh, of course he will. Just like all the other managers who "do things the right way" and won't take any [expletive].

[Magnetic Curses]

what does "hold people accountable" really mean?

 

the manager is much easier to get rid of than a player.

[El Duderino]

what does "hold people accountable" really mean?

 

the manager is much easier to get rid of than a player.

 

no dessert if you don't run hard to first, obviously.

[Rob]

Right or wrong, Sandberg strikes me as the type of guy who will "call guys out" to the media

[erik316wttn]

In the grand scheme of things, a manager may not be crucial to winning ballgames. However, Theo has said repeatedly since he got here that he believes in saying and teaching the same things to players at every level in the organization. He wants players to hear the same thing in rookie ball that they would in the majors. And I'm completely on board with that. If you have a player hear one thing from his managers and coaches at A-ball, then something completely different in AA, then a third philosophy in AAA, it's just going to screw things up.

 

That being said, however, if we're going to preach and teach sabermetrics and OBP and all that stuff, why would you have a manager at your top level who doesn't believe in any of that stuff and who could preach something different to the rookies, stunting their development?

 

And also, we have no idea if Ryno would give the kids a fair break at the big league level or if he'd heavily favor the vets like the last few managers we've had (Baylor, Dusty, Lou). It just seems like he'd clash with the philosophy of the front office.