Hendry Fired (p. 2)

[Guest]

Then why are there so many media members with negative things to say about him? I don't think its a coincidence

 

So you agree with them that Aramis Ramirez is a selfish, lazy player?

 

I do think Ram has been lazy at times, but I don't think he's selfish. I could hav e cared less that he wanted to be w/ his family instead of a 4th replacement in the All Star game

 

The enablers just look the other way and blame the media. He hustles selectively and is disinterested at times. Even in 2000, SI wrote this about him:

 

Just 21, Aramis Ramirez was given the third base job this spring when the Pirates let Ed Sprague walk as a free agent. Offensively, the Pirates know Ramirez is ready—he had 21 homers at Triple A Nashville last year. But he also made a ghastly 42 errors in the minors and three more after his September call-up. "He has fine hands and a good arm," says general manager Cam Bonifay. "Mental lapses led to those errors." Manager Gene Lamont sat down with Ramirez during a winter trip to the Dominican Republic to stress the importance of off-season work and to make sure Ramirez had his head screwed on right.

 

So the Pirates and Cubs have both recognized that he'll trot to first base on a grounder and not give it his all on every play. Considering what the alternatives for 3rd may be in 2012, where you gonna find 30HR and 90 RBI? Don't know if it's worth $16-18M, but at least you know what ya got. Is he a leader on the field and in the clubhouse? No.

Umm...yeah.

 

Can you please explain the connection between committing errors and not hustling to first base on a grounder? I must be missing it.

[Guest]

Can you please explain the connection between committing errors and not hustling to first base on a grounder? I must be missing it.

 

Not committing errors. Committing errors 12 years ago.

[dfnowak]

Kenney runs the business of the Cubs. Business is good. Hendry ran the baseball operations.

 

It's not that hard to understand.

 

Whats hard to understand? If you want to believe that Kenney never intervened in Hendry's business, fine. I guess the media is lying.

[dfnowak]

I really, really want Friedman.

 

I was trying not to think that big prior to the report that they are looking to hire an experienced/successful GM.

 

 

Hopefully, he'd opt for the resources/market and added luster of breaking the "curse" over the home town connection in Houston. Or we could just offer him more money.

 

But what if he demands that Crane Kenney be fired?

 

Well, if Freidman gets hired, then Ill be the first to eat crow.

[Guest]

I really, really want Friedman.

 

I was trying not to think that big prior to the report that they are looking to hire an experienced/successful GM.

 

 

Hopefully, he'd opt for the resources/market and added luster of breaking the "curse" over the home town connection in Houston. Or we could just offer him more money.

 

But what if he demands that Crane Kenney be fired?

 

Well, if Freidman gets hired, then Ill be the first to eat crow.

Kind of a high bar you are setting there. Friedman could decide to stay in Tampa for a lot of reasons other than Crane Kenney. Ricketts could decide he likes another option better.

 

How about unless if the major candidates come out and say they refuse to interview with the Cubs until Kenney is fired that we assume his presence isn't having an impact?

[Guest]

Okay, so we're up to maybe one thing that Kenney has actually done that would deserve disdain, and it's clearly spelled out that it was (allegedly) him acting on behalf of the ownership that is no longer in charge.

 

Here's a thought. Who is a better judge of whether or not Crane Kenney is interfering or overstepping his bounds?

 

Phil Rogers, Joe Cowley, and the like(notice we never see Miles on this list), sportswriters who on other topics we find to be such complete buffoons that it's astonishing they're able to put on matching socks?

 

Or Tom Ricketts, the very successful businessman whose processes and decisions thus far have deserved almost universal praise, and who chose to keep Kenney on to run the business side when he had an easy excuse to do so(change in ownership) and has shown he's willing to fire top front office people?

[Outshined_One]

I love the fact that Crane Kenney is getting blamed for Soriano's bloated contract. He wasn't even Team President then; that sucker was on Sam Zell and John McDonough.

[RammyFanny]

Anyone know when Cashman's deal expires? Conflicting reports...

 

The Cubs want to have a GM in place by Oct. 1 to begin the offseason, and keep in mind that Cashman's contract does not expire until Oct. 31.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=olney_buster&id=6881791

 

But...

Although New York Yankees general manager Brian Cashman says he’s content with his job, speculation is that he could be a primary candidate for the Cubs’ vacancy when his contract expires Sept. 30.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/yankees/post/_/id/22113/cashman-an-attractive-candidate-for-cubs

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

I love the fact that Crane Kenney is getting blamed for Soriano's bloated contract. He wasn't even Team President then; that sucker was on Sam Zell and John McDonough.

 

I heard that Crane Kenney was behind 9/11 and the Great Potato Famine.

[dfnowak]

I really, really want Friedman.

 

I was trying not to think that big prior to the report that they are looking to hire an experienced/successful GM.

 

 

Hopefully, he'd opt for the resources/market and added luster of breaking the "curse" over the home town connection in Houston. Or we could just offer him more money.

 

But what if he demands that Crane Kenney be fired?

 

Well, if Freidman gets hired, then Ill be the first to eat crow.

Kind of a high bar you are setting there. Friedman could decide to stay in Tampa for a lot of reasons other than Crane Kenney. Ricketts could decide he likes another option better.

 

How about unless if the major candidates come out and say they refuse to interview with the Cubs until Kenney is fired that we assume his presence isn't having an impact?

 

Or Cashman or any of the top candidates....

[dfnowak]

Okay, so we're up to maybe one thing that Kenney has actually done that would deserve disdain, and it's clearly spelled out that it was (allegedly) him acting on behalf of the ownership that is no longer in charge.

 

Here's a thought. Who is a better judge of whether or not Crane Kenney is interfering or overstepping his bounds?

 

Phil Rogers, Joe Cowley, and the like(notice we never see Miles on this list), sportswriters who on other topics we find to be such complete buffoons that it's astonishing they're able to put on matching socks?

 

Or Tom Ricketts, the very successful businessman whose processes and decisions thus far have deserved almost universal praise, and who chose to keep Kenney on to run the business side when he had an easy excuse to do so(change in ownership) and has shown he's willing to fire top front office people?

 

So, do you consider Paul Sullivan a complete buffoon as well? He also had some negative comments on Kenney.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

More Kenney bashing...

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Chicago-Cubs-Crane-Kenney-ryne-sandberg-jair-jurrjens-michael-young-mike-rizzo-082011

 

And this baseless speculation...

 

The new general manager with the Cubs can be expected to quickly name Ryne Sandberg to replace Mike Quade as manager. That will earn support from Cubs diehards, even if it is more window dressing than anything else.

 

Yuch. The Ryne Sandberg obsession needs to stop. It's understood that he's done very well as a minor league coach. Good for him.

[Guest]

So, do you consider Paul Sullivan a complete buffoon as well? He also had some negative comments on Kenney.

 

Oh absolutely, I'm disappointed I didn't mention him in my original post now.

[Guest]

Okay, so we're up to maybe one thing that Kenney has actually done that would deserve disdain, and it's clearly spelled out that it was (allegedly) him acting on behalf of the ownership that is no longer in charge.

 

Here's a thought. Who is a better judge of whether or not Crane Kenney is interfering or overstepping his bounds?

 

Phil Rogers, Joe Cowley, and the like(notice we never see Miles on this list), sportswriters who on other topics we find to be such complete buffoons that it's astonishing they're able to put on matching socks?

 

Or Tom Ricketts, the very successful businessman whose processes and decisions thus far have deserved almost universal praise, and who chose to keep Kenney on to run the business side when he had an easy excuse to do so(change in ownership) and has shown he's willing to fire top front office people?

 

So, do you consider Paul Sullivan a complete buffoon as well? He also had some negative comments on Kenney.

 

 

Is this real life?

[Outshined_One]

Okay, so we're up to maybe one thing that Kenney has actually done that would deserve disdain, and it's clearly spelled out that it was (allegedly) him acting on behalf of the ownership that is no longer in charge.

 

Here's a thought. Who is a better judge of whether or not Crane Kenney is interfering or overstepping his bounds?

 

Phil Rogers, Joe Cowley, and the like(notice we never see Miles on this list), sportswriters who on other topics we find to be such complete buffoons that it's astonishing they're able to put on matching socks?

 

Or Tom Ricketts, the very successful businessman whose processes and decisions thus far have deserved almost universal praise, and who chose to keep Kenney on to run the business side when he had an easy excuse to do so(change in ownership) and has shown he's willing to fire top front office people?

 

So, do you consider Paul Sullivan a complete buffoon as well? He also had some negative comments on Kenney.

 

 

Is this real life?

 

Is this just fantasy?

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Okay, so we're up to maybe one thing that Kenney has actually done that would deserve disdain, and it's clearly spelled out that it was (allegedly) him acting on behalf of the ownership that is no longer in charge.

 

Here's a thought. Who is a better judge of whether or not Crane Kenney is interfering or overstepping his bounds?

 

Phil Rogers, Joe Cowley, and the like(notice we never see Miles on this list), sportswriters who on other topics we find to be such complete buffoons that it's astonishing they're able to put on matching socks?

 

Or Tom Ricketts, the very successful businessman whose processes and decisions thus far have deserved almost universal praise, and who chose to keep Kenney on to run the business side when he had an easy excuse to do so(change in ownership) and has shown he's willing to fire top front office people?

 

So, do you consider Paul Sullivan a complete buffoon as well? He also had some negative comments on Kenney.

 

 

Is this real life?

 

Is this just fantasy?

 

Caught in a landslide.

[MSG T]

Okay, so we're up to maybe one thing that Kenney has actually done that would deserve disdain, and it's clearly spelled out that it was (allegedly) him acting on behalf of the ownership that is no longer in charge.

 

Here's a thought. Who is a better judge of whether or not Crane Kenney is interfering or overstepping his bounds?

 

Phil Rogers, Joe Cowley, and the like(notice we never see Miles on this list), sportswriters who on other topics we find to be such complete buffoons that it's astonishing they're able to put on matching socks?

 

Or Tom Ricketts, the very successful businessman whose processes and decisions thus far have deserved almost universal praise, and who chose to keep Kenney on to run the business side when he had an easy excuse to do so(change in ownership) and has shown he's willing to fire top front office people?

 

So, do you consider Paul Sullivan a complete buffoon as well? He also had some negative comments on Kenney.

 

Are you serious, Clark?

 

You'd seriously take the opinion of [expletive] sportswriters over the guy that runs the [expletive] team?

 

 

:shock:

[UMFan83]

I love the fact that Crane Kenney is getting blamed for Soriano's bloated contract. He wasn't even Team President then; that sucker was on Sam Zell and John McDonough.

 

I heard that Crane Kenney was behind 9/11 and the Great Potato Famine.

 

Not Kenney alone. Aramis Ramirez and Carlos Zambrano helped him.

[Guest]

I love the fact that Crane Kenney is getting blamed for Soriano's bloated contract. He wasn't even Team President then; that sucker was on Sam Zell and John McDonough.

 

I heard that Crane Kenney was behind 9/11 and the Great Potato Famine.

 

Not Kenney alone. Aramis Ramirez and Carlos Zambrano helped him.

I heard Milton Bradley started the Chicago Fire.

[bukie]

I love the fact that Crane Kenney is getting blamed for Soriano's bloated contract. He wasn't even Team President then; that sucker was on Sam Zell and John McDonough.

 

I heard that Crane Kenney was behind 9/11 and the Great Potato Famine.

 

Not Kenney alone. Aramis Ramirez and Carlos Zambrano helped him.

I heard Milton Bradley started the Chicago Fire.

And they've only won two games to this point, so he'd be a terrible GM.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

I love the fact that Crane Kenney is getting blamed for Soriano's bloated contract. He wasn't even Team President then; that sucker was on Sam Zell and John McDonough.

 

I heard that Crane Kenney was behind 9/11 and the Great Potato Famine.

 

Not Kenney alone. Aramis Ramirez and Carlos Zambrano helped him.

 

They're both too lazy to do something like that. Unless by help you mean loaf and mope.

[rocket]

Okay, so we're up to maybe one thing that Kenney has actually done that would deserve disdain, and it's clearly spelled out that it was (allegedly) him acting on behalf of the ownership that is no longer in charge.

 

Here's a thought. Who is a better judge of whether or not Crane Kenney is interfering or overstepping his bounds?

 

Phil Rogers, Joe Cowley, and the like(notice we never see Miles on this list), sportswriters who on other topics we find to be such complete buffoons that it's astonishing they're able to put on matching socks?

 

Or Tom Ricketts, the very successful businessman whose processes and decisions thus far have deserved almost universal praise, and who chose to keep Kenney on to run the business side when he had an easy excuse to do so(change in ownership) and has shown he's willing to fire top front office people?

 

So, do you consider Paul Sullivan a complete buffoon as well? He also had some negative comments on Kenney.

 

joke account

[hawkeyecub]

There's a Buster Olney article on Insider about Andrew Friedman and the Cubs are brought up. Don't have insider though so I couldn't read the whole thing. Anyone want to paraphrase if there's anything written about the Cubs specifically?

 

He basically just says that Friedman will have options, will have to make a decision and lists the pro's and con's.

[PackLandVA]

Anyone know when Cashman's deal expires? Conflicting reports...

 

The Cubs want to have a GM in place by Oct. 1 to begin the offseason, and keep in mind that Cashman's contract does not expire until Oct. 31.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=olney_buster&id=6881791

 

But...

Although New York Yankees general manager Brian Cashman says he’s content with his job, speculation is that he could be a primary candidate for the Cubs’ vacancy when his contract expires Sept. 30.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/yankees/post/_/id/22113/cashman-an-attractive-candidate-for-cubs

 

 

 

Here's an "article from S&S Sports Business Daily" that says Cashman signed his new 3 year deal 0n September 30, 2008. That leads me to believe the deal ends on the last day of this season.

Edited August 21, 2011 by PackLandVA

[Guest]

Anyone know when Cashman's deal expires? Conflicting reports...

 

The Cubs want to have a GM in place by Oct. 1 to begin the offseason, and keep in mind that Cashman's contract does not expire until Oct. 31.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=olney_buster&id=6881791

 

But...

Although New York Yankees general manager Brian Cashman says he’s content with his job, speculation is that he could be a primary candidate for the Cubs’ vacancy when his contract expires Sept. 30.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/yankees/post/_/id/22113/cashman-an-attractive-candidate-for-cubs

 

 

 

Here's an article from S&S Sports Business Daily that says Cashman signed his new 3 year deal 0n September 30, 2008. That leads me to believe the deal ends on the last day of this season.

The deal may expire on 9/30, but he won't negotiate until the yankees are out of the playoffs.