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It's pretty [expletive] transparent that Hendry didn't like Kenney, and now the worthless [expletive] Chicago media starts the whisper campaign to absolve Hendry of blame.

 

I don't think it's a stretch to say we have the absolute worst media of anywhere in the country.

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It's pretty [expletive] transparent that Hendry didn't like Kenney, and now the worthless [expletive] Chicago media starts the whisper campaign to absolve Hendry of blame.

 

I don't think it's a stretch to say we have the absolute worst media of anywhere in the country.

 

Williston, ND

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I've been wondering about scouts that work under potential GMs. Are they contractually obligated to stay with their current teams if their GM takes the Cubs job? For instance, if we were able to get Friedman would some of the Rays better scouts and player development people follow him? It seems like a great deal of the success of a GM lies with the team of people working under him, it could be huge to pick up some new scouting/development talent.
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It's pretty [expletive] transparent that Hendry didn't like Kenney, and now the worthless [expletive] Chicago media starts the whisper campaign to absolve Hendry of blame.

 

I don't think it's a stretch to say we have the absolute worst media of anywhere in the country.

 

Williston, ND

 

Touche good sir

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I've been wondering about scouts that work under potential GMs. Are they contractually obligated to stay with their current teams if their GM takes the Cubs job? For instance, if we were able to get Friedman would some of the Rays better scouts and player development people follow him? It seems like a great deal of the success of a GM lies with the team of people working under him, it could be huge to pick up some new scouting/development talent.

 

Ping mentioned earlier they're mostly on 1 or 2 year deals. I'd imagine most would be let out of contracts if offered.

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I don't think the Kenney hate from the media is new. He's been somebody that has been targeted for sometime. The was a story, possibly last season, that Kenney would bring his buddies into the Cubs' clubhouse and have players take pictures and get autographs from the players. Obviously, the Greek priest ridiculousness from the playoff run a few years ago has been lampooned plenty too.
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It's pretty [expletive] transparent that Hendry didn't like Kenney, and now the worthless [expletive] Chicago media starts the whisper campaign to absolve Hendry of blame.

 

I don't think it's a stretch to say we have the absolute worst media of anywhere in the country.

 

Gordon Wittenmeyer gets in on the fun.

 

Link

 

Seriously, this Hendry apologist crap needs to stop.

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Does anyone here really think someone as business savvy as Tom Ricketts would let Crane Kenney undermine him in any meaningful way?

 

I would hope not. If the likes of Friedman or Cashman are being interviewed and they point out that as a condition of being hired that Kenney must be sent packing or put in the far corner, I would hope that Ricketts would comply.

 

You are hilarious.

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For those of you who still don't believe that Crane Kenney is a concern, here are more articles that indict him:

Phil Rogers

Joe Cowley

 

Your argument for canning Kenny is that two of the worst sportswriters in Chicago don't like him?

I'll reserve judgement until I see what da bum thinks.

 

Combined with other Chicago media members. Do you see a common theme here on Kenney? Regardless of your opinion on these media members, they have a lot more access into the Cubs organization than you or me.

 

access doesn't mean unbiased.

 

Then why are there so many media members with negative things to say about him? I don't think its a coincidence

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More Kenney bashing...

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Chicago-Cubs-Crane-Kenney-ryne-sandberg-jair-jurrjens-michael-young-mike-rizzo-082011

 

And this baseless speculation...

 

The new general manager with the Cubs can be expected to quickly name Ryne Sandberg to replace Mike Quade as manager. That will earn support from Cubs diehards, even if it is more window dressing than anything else.
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Veterans like Carlos Zambrano, who Hendry had declared would not get more than a five-year guarantee only to have Kenney's business sense overrule him and provide an eight-year sentence to the organization with its obligation to Zambrano.

 

Apparently Z signed an 8 year contract?

 

Hendry’s commitment to Quade, which prompted Sandberg to leave the Cubs and become the Triple-A manager for Philadelphia, was a point of irritation in the Windy City.

 

No it really wasn't.

 

"He had a big windup and we just let him pitch," said McKeon. "People would say you can’t pitch like that, but he did. He went to Detroit and they wanted to smooth him out."

 

Bottom line, it always helps to let a player fail before feeling like adjustments have to be made.

 

Like how he failed in Florida in 2007?

 

Also, nice hat you doofus.

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It's pretty [expletive] transparent that Hendry didn't like Kenney, and now the worthless [expletive] Chicago media starts the whisper campaign to absolve Hendry of blame.

 

I think the feeling between Hendry and Kenney was mutual. Unless you think Hendry is a liar.

 

Meant to say Phil Rogers instead of Hendry

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It's pretty [expletive] transparent that Hendry didn't like Kenney, and now the worthless [expletive] Chicago media starts the whisper campaign to absolve Hendry of blame.

 

I think the feeling between Hendry and Kenney was mutual. Unless you think Hendry is a liar.

 

I don't doubt it. That doesn't have anything to do with the "he did all these bad things but I'm not going to tell you any of them" articles.

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It's pretty [expletive] transparent that Hendry didn't like Kenney, and now the worthless [expletive] Chicago media starts the whisper campaign to absolve Hendry of blame.

 

I think the feeling between Hendry and Kenney was mutual. Unless you think Hendry is a liar.

 

So because Hendry was fat and loveable, we have to side with him?

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Sorry, there was this one example of Kenney mad with power:

 

Yeah, business matters like overruling Hendry on more than one occasion because Kenney felt outside pressure to reel in high-priced veterans.

 

That dastardly Kenney told Hendry he couldn't balloon the payroll even higher because ownership wouldn't allow it!!

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More Kenney bashing...

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Chicago-Cubs-Crane-Kenney-ryne-sandberg-jair-jurrjens-michael-young-mike-rizzo-082011

 

And this baseless speculation...

 

The new general manager with the Cubs can be expected to quickly name Ryne Sandberg to replace Mike Quade as manager. That will earn support from Cubs diehards, even if it is more window dressing than anything else.

 

Kenney's reputation is also known by national writers...then again, they must be lying too (sarcasm)

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It's pretty [expletive] transparent that Hendry didn't like Kenney, and now the worthless [expletive] Chicago media starts the whisper campaign to absolve Hendry of blame.

 

I think the feeling between Hendry and Kenney was mutual. Unless you think Hendry is a liar.

 

So because Hendry was fat and loveable, we have to side with him?

 

I never said anyone should side w/ Hendry, but wondering why Kenney isn't part of the problem. If they want a change in culture, then why is Kenney sticking around as Team President (ill try not to puke when I mention Kenney w/ that title)?

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There is a deep, irrational disdain for "suits" among "baseball men" and the people who cover the game.
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I can't wait to see the image of Crane Kenney holding up the World Series trophy. Hopefully Cowley chokes on his own vomit at the site.

 

If this is the case, Im fine w/ that as winning it all is all that matters.

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More Kenney bashing...

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Chicago-Cubs-Crane-Kenney-ryne-sandberg-jair-jurrjens-michael-young-mike-rizzo-082011

 

And this baseless speculation...

 

The new general manager with the Cubs can be expected to quickly name Ryne Sandberg to replace Mike Quade as manager. That will earn support from Cubs diehards, even if it is more window dressing than anything else.

 

Kenney's reputation is also known by national writers...then again, they must be lying too (sarcasm)

 

Well, you convinced me. The guy who says Kenney overruled Hendry on Zambrano for an 8 year "sentence" and says we can expect Sandberg as the next manager clearly has good sources.

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I can't believe the support around here for Kenney...is he running this website?

I can't speak for everyone here, but I am pretty indifferent to Kenney. I haven't been presented with compelling evidence that he has "meddled" in any sense other than to tell Hendry how much money he has to spend, which falls under management of the business end of team operations, which is his job.

 

Furthermore, after the events of the past few weeks, I am more inclined to give Ricketts the benefit of the doubt. He has come through with solid investment in the draft, he has canned Hendry, and he seems intent upon replacing him with a more analytical-albeit philosophically balanced-general manager. Ricketts seems to be pursuing a new course for the franchise, and he doesn't appear concerned that Crane Kenney compromises that pursuit. As of right now, I'm not really concerned either.

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