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OF Abreu key for #Cubs in Fuke deal

Well he has the #1 tool we look for in minor league position players, that being having no on base skills...

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Bruce Miles

OF Abreu key for #Cubs in Fuke deal

Well he has the #1 tool we look for in minor league position players, that being having no on base skills...

 

exactly

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Yeah this is basically a wash. Maybe one of the prospects will turn out decent. If not, no big deal.

 

No, but if the Indians are getting Kouske pretty much for free we should have gotten something better. I'm not saying their top prospect or anything but something better than the return we're getting now.

 

You are incorrect.

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Yeah this is basically a wash. Maybe one of the prospects will turn out decent. If not, no big deal.

 

No, but if the Indians are getting Kouske pretty much for free we should have gotten something better. I'm not saying their top prospect or anything but something better than the return we're getting now.

 

says you. i kinda doubt hendry just took the first offer from the first team and called it a day.

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Yeah this is basically a wash. Maybe one of the prospects will turn out decent. If not, no big deal.

 

No, but if the Indians are getting Kouske pretty much for free we should have gotten something better. I'm not saying their top prospect or anything but something better than the return we're getting now.

 

says you. i kinda doubt hendry just took the first offer from the first team and called it a day.

@CarrieMuskat

 

#Cubs motivation to move Fukudome: He wasn't expected back in 2012 and want to give Colvin playing time

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Yeah this is basically a wash. Maybe one of the prospects will turn out decent. If not, no big deal.

 

No, but if the Indians are getting Kouske pretty much for free we should have gotten something better. I'm not saying their top prospect or anything but something better than the return we're getting now.

 

The Indians are paying for $4 million of Kosuke's remaining $4.5 million.

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Yeah this is basically a wash. Maybe one of the prospects will turn out decent. If not, no big deal.

 

No, but if the Indians are getting Kouske pretty much for free we should have gotten something better. I'm not saying their top prospect or anything but something better than the return we're getting now.

 

The Indians are paying for $4 million of Kosuke's remaining $4.5 million.

 

WHAAAAAAAA???

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Yeah this is basically a wash. Maybe one of the prospects will turn out decent. If not, no big deal.

 

No, but if the Indians are getting Kouske pretty much for free we should have gotten something better. I'm not saying their top prospect or anything but something better than the return we're getting now.

 

The Indians are paying for $4 million of Kosuke's remaining $4.5 million.

 

WHAAAAAAAA???

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/trade-central/2011/2612158.html

 

(Link also has a review of the prospects the Cubs are getting.)

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ESPN still has the Indians picking up $775,000

 

ETA: It is Buster Olney though, who I wouldn't trust to wash my car. And I don't have a car.

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Yeah this is basically a wash. Maybe one of the prospects will turn out decent. If not, no big deal.

 

No, but if the Indians are getting Kouske pretty much for free we should have gotten something better. I'm not saying their top prospect or anything but something better than the return we're getting now.

 

The Indians are paying for $4 million of Kosuke's remaining $4.5 million.

 

WHAAAAAAAA???

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/trade-central/2011/2612158.html

 

(Link also has a review of the prospects the Cubs are getting.)

 

Well now, that's altogether something else.

 

Real good job Jimbo.

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The BA piece is really awkward wording on that portion too, I'm still more inclined to believe Cleveland's only paying 750k.
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The BA piece is really awkward wording on that portion too, I'm still more inclined to believe Cleveland's only paying 750k.

 

Kind of hard to typo "Cleveland included nearly $4 million in the deal" though, no?

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The BA piece is really awkward wording on that portion too, I'm still more inclined to believe Cleveland's only paying 750k.

 

Kind of hard to typo "Cleveland included nearly $4 million in the deal" though, no?

 

Well it's obvious somebody misinterpreted who was picking up what.

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Here's to wishing Colvin some patient ABs.
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ESPN still has the Indians picking up $775,000

 

ETA: It is Buster Olney though, who I wouldn't trust to wash my car. And I don't have a car.

 

That said, you'd think ESPN would be better at getting the salaries portion of the trade accurate compared to Baseball America.

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Yeah this is basically a wash. Maybe one of the prospects will turn out decent. If not, no big deal.

 

No, but if the Indians are getting Kouske pretty much for free we should have gotten something better. I'm not saying their top prospect or anything but something better than the return we're getting now.

 

The Indians are paying for $4 million of Kosuke's remaining $4.5 million.

 

If this is true I retract my earlier statement.

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In a vacuum, I have no issues with the trade. Fukudome wasn't going to net much of a return in prospects. However, my concern would be that Hendry seems intent on continuing to acquire the same type of player that the Cubs evidently cannot develop at all (toolsy/impatient/etc).
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In a vacuum, I have no issues with the trade. Fukudome wasn't going to net much of a return in prospects. However, my concern would be that Hendry seems intent on continuing to acquire the same type of player that the Cubs evidently cannot develop at all (toolsy/impatient/etc).

 

It's called hitting, not walking, dude.

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From ESPN.com story - "We wanted to get Colvin up here and play," Hendry said. "Last year he played so well and he had such a solid year, 20 home runs in 358 at-bats. But he wasn't able to establish himself early in the year."

 

While the homeruns were nice, Colvin's OBP was on .316 and I don't think anyone expects it to be much better. Does Ricketts not realize Hendry's assessment of a player's offensive value is killing the entire organization?

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In a vacuum, I have no issues with the trade. Fukudome wasn't going to net much of a return in prospects. However, my concern would be that Hendry seems intent on continuing to acquire the same type of player that the Cubs evidently cannot develop at all (toolsy/impatient/etc).

 

In this type of deal, I'd rather take my chance on the lottery ticket that has big potential and serious flaws than someone who might be more in the Sam Fuld mold.

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