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From ESPN.com story - "We wanted to get Colvin up here and play," Hendry said. "Last year he played so well and he had such a solid year, 20 home runs in 358 at-bats. But he wasn't able to establish himself early in the year."

 

While the homeruns were nice, Colvin's OBP was on .316 and I don't think anyone expects it to be much better. Does Ricketts not realize Hendry's assessment of a player's offensive value is killing the entire organization?

 

Jesus Christ, calm down. What mythical GM WOULDN'T be hyping up how many home runs Colvin hit?

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From ESPN.com story - "We wanted to get Colvin up here and play," Hendry said. "Last year he played so well and he had such a solid year, 20 home runs in 358 at-bats. But he wasn't able to establish himself early in the year."

 

While the homeruns were nice, Colvin's OBP was on .316 and I don't think anyone expects it to be much better. Does Ricketts not realize Hendry's assessment of a player's offensive value is killing the entire organization?

 

Jesus Christ, calm down. What mythical GM WOULDN'T be hyping up how many home runs Colvin hit?

 

With the way he's hyping up Colvin, maybe he's trying to deal Colvin too.

 

Nah probably not.

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Looks like BA was wrong.
"That is accurate," Antonetti said when asked if the Cubs are picking up most of the money due Fukudome, who signed a four-year, $48 million deal with Chicago as a free agent from Japan in 2008.

 

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/07/28/2335157/indians-acquire-of-fukudome-from.html#ixzz1TQR9T5Hu

 

Yeah, Bruce Miles just said the Cubs saved about $1 million.

 

BA has updated their article:

 

Cleveland received nearly $4 million in the deal, covering all but about $500,000 of Fukudome's 2011 salary. (We erroneously had the cash transaction reversed earlier.)
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From ESPN.com story - "We wanted to get Colvin up here and play," Hendry said. "Last year he played so well and he had such a solid year, 20 home runs in 358 at-bats. But he wasn't able to establish himself early in the year."

 

While the homeruns were nice, Colvin's OBP was on .316 and I don't think anyone expects it to be much better. Does Ricketts not realize Hendry's assessment of a player's offensive value is killing the entire organization?

 

Meh, I'd rather evaluate what we have before we spend on 3 to 5 mill on a cody ross type guy and potentiall not have enough money for a Pujols/fielder and a pitcher.

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In a vacuum, I have no issues with the trade. Fukudome wasn't going to net much of a return in prospects. However, my concern would be that Hendry seems intent on continuing to acquire the same type of player that the Cubs evidently cannot develop at all (toolsy/impatient/etc).

 

In this type of deal, I'd rather take my chance on the lottery ticket that has big potential and serious flaws than someone who might be more in the Sam Fuld mold.

 

I get that, and I have no issue with the boom/bust trade for lesser prospects. But this type of boom/bust -- which seemingly always go bust with the Cubs -- seems to fit the definition of insanity.

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I get that, and I have no issue with the boom/bust trade for lesser prospects. But this type of boom/bust -- which seemingly always go bust with the Cubs -- seems to fit the definition of insanity.

 

Well, those guys go bust with most teams, that's why we're getting him for 2 months of Kosuke. Would it have been better to get a AAAA OF and a control-impaired flamethrower in A ball instead of the AAAA reliever and toolsy, undisciplined A ball OF? Maybe. But that seems a pretty inconsequential nit to pick, personally.

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In a vacuum, I have no issues with the trade. Fukudome wasn't going to net much of a return in prospects. However, my concern would be that Hendry seems intent on continuing to acquire the same type of player that the Cubs evidently cannot develop at all (toolsy/impatient/etc).

 

In this type of deal, I'd rather take my chance on the lottery ticket that has big potential and serious flaws than someone who might be more in the Sam Fuld mold.

 

I get that, and I have no issue with the boom/bust trade for lesser prospects. But this type of boom/bust -- which seemingly always go bust with the Cubs -- seems to fit the definition of insanity.

 

You're not getting sure things for two months of a 4th OF. Unless those things are sure to suck.

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In a vacuum, I have no issues with the trade. Fukudome wasn't going to net much of a return in prospects. However, my concern would be that Hendry seems intent on continuing to acquire the same type of player that the Cubs evidently cannot develop at all (toolsy/impatient/etc).

 

In this type of deal, I'd rather take my chance on the lottery ticket that has big potential and serious flaws than someone who might be more in the Sam Fuld mold.

 

I get that, and I have no issue with the boom/bust trade for lesser prospects. But this type of boom/bust -- which seemingly always go bust with the Cubs -- seems to fit the definition of insanity.

 

You're not getting sure things for two months of a 4th OF. Unless those things are sure to suck.

 

I think it's been pretty obvious I wasn't asking for sure things.

 

Instead, I'm merely arguing that I would have preferred "lottery tickets" that I had some semblance of faith in the Cubs correctly scratching off -- wild strikeout pitchers, gritty middle infielders, etc. The Cubs seem to exacerbate the flaws of toolsy impatient players because they proactively don't see the impatience as a flaw. I think Abreu is an intriguing prospect to receive for the rental of Fukudome, I just have no faith whatsoever the Cubs developing such a player. And I am nitpicking, no doubt.

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Instead, I'm merely arguing that I would have preferred "lottery tickets" that I had some semblance of faith in the Cubs correctly scratching off -- wild strikeout pitchers, gritty middle infielders, etc. The Cubs seem to exacerbate the flaws of toolsy impatient players because they proactively don't see the impatience as a flaw. I

 

That's pretty much the definition of a lottery ticket. If you're not a highly ranked prospect but have a good approach, then you're just somebody with a low ceiling whose peak will be bench player or middle relief.

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What the [expletive] are you talking about?

 

As Fukudome held his goodbye press conference in the clubhouse, Marlon Byrd shouted over: "Take me, too."

 

Byrd may be next to go, as Hendry tries to open a spot for top prospect Brett Jackson.

 

Thats what the article says.

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No, I was talking about the "wheels officially falling off" NOW because of Marlon Byrd joking around. As opposed to what, they hadn't "fallen off" when they've played baseball garbage the entire season. Yeah, a player half-joking about wanting to go to a team in a playoff race as opposed to staying on an awful one is just chaos in the clubhouse. Better trade him fast before he infects everyone else.

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