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Batting order minutiae: Castro 2nd, Ramirez 4th

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Homefully Kosuke can win the RF job but I'm not counting on it.

 

Fukudome

Castro

Pena

Ramirez

Soto

Soriano

Byrd

DeWitt

 

would be a respectable batting order. The Cubs would probably switch Soriano and Byrd though.

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Yeah, based on what few issues have been specifically brought up I too fear "Blake DeWitt: leadoff hitter" being their plan going into the season. Same with Byrd batting ahead of Soto.
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Knowing this info, I would prefer

 

Fukudome RF

Castro SS

Soto C

Ramirez 3B

Pena 1B

Soriano LF

Byrd CF

Dewitt/Baker 2B

 

 

I like this lineup although I wouldn't mind Soto up to 2nd/Pena to 3rd/Castro down to 7th. A little less pressure for Castro and it give Ramirez 3 guys who walk a lot in front of him. The only thing I'm iffy about the lineup above is having Soriano/Pena back to back. I can see pitchers walking Pena a bit to get to Soriano (esp when he's in his slumps) and if he's in front of Ramirez, they'll have to pitch to him more often.

 

Fukudome

Soto

Pena

Ramirez

Soriano

Byrd

Castro

Dewitt/Baker

 

It looks like Ramirez and Castro (and possibly Soto- depending on which Pena we get) are the guys who would get walked in order to face the next batter in my lineup. Castro I can see for sure. Ramirez could sometime, but if Soriano has a decent to solid year then I can see pitchers pitching to A Ram. Then again... I don't mind having Castro at 2nd and see how he does this year, but I think he'll see a lot of pitches his way. I'm just hoping that he gets more walks this year and improve his plate discipline. Plus at the 7 spot, I think he would get to run/steal more often than at the 2 spot.

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The idea of Byrd hitting 3rd didn't even pop into my head until it was brought up here and now I'm terrified they'll start the year like that if he has a good spring.
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Knowing this info, I would prefer

 

Fukudome RF

Castro SS

Soto C

Ramirez 3B

Pena 1B

Soriano LF

Byrd CF

Dewitt/Baker 2B

 

 

I like this lineup although I wouldn't mind Soto up to 2nd/Pena to 3rd/Castro down to 7th. A little less pressure for Castro and it give Ramirez 3 guys who walk a lot in front of him. The only thing I'm iffy about the lineup above is having Soriano/Pena back to back. I can see pitchers walking Pena a bit to get to Soriano (esp when he's in his slumps) and if he's in front of Ramirez, they'll have to pitch to him more often.

 

Fukudome

Soto

Pena

Ramirez

Soriano

Byrd

Castro

Dewitt/Baker

 

It looks like Ramirez and Castro (and possibly Soto- depending on which Pena we get) are the guys who would get walked in order to face the next batter in my lineup. Castro I can see for sure. Ramirez could sometime, but if Soriano has a decent to solid year then I can see pitchers pitching to A Ram. Then again... I don't mind having Castro at 2nd and see how he does this year, but I think he'll see a lot of pitches his way. I'm just hoping that he gets more walks this year and improve his plate discipline. Plus at the 7 spot, I think he would get to run/steal more often than at the 2 spot.

I agree with your points and that's why I think we will have a very fluid lineup all year. With Colvin likely to get a lot of ab's replacing all 3 OF, a good amount of our offensive guys being streaky, the fact we have a platoon at 2B and I guess you could consider all 4 OF in some sort of platoon as I think they will all get around the same amount of ab's and finally the fact one of our best hitters is our catcher meaning Soto on the high end will catch 145 games and when Hill is in the lineup he will/should be batting 8th moving other guys up/down. And then there's also that whole injury thing.....

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2010 averages based on lineup position:

 

1.) Colvin .250/.310/.848 (Better plate discipline would lead to higher OBP, good speed & power)

2.) Castro .307/.342/.744 (Could be golden, must avoid sophmore slump)

 

3 Year averages based on lineup position:

 

3.) Pena .245/.422/.982 (Logical placement with Lee's departure, needs to bounce back)

4.) Ramirez .286/.363/.875 (Anchorman of Cubs lineup)

5.) Byrd .285/.343/.743 (Good bet to stick to 3 year average)

6.) Soriano .271/.325/.825 (Should be in the neighborhood of 3 year average)

7.) Soto .292/.409/.912 (A lower spot in the order will help him stay strong for the long haul)

8.) DeWitt .310/.399/.810 (Seems to accel in this spot - logical positon anyway)

 

For one, I loved the youngsters at the top of the order last year. I think it was one of the few bright spots. More experience could lead to better production.

 

Pena and Ramirez should bounce back to post numbers in line with their respective 3 year averages.

 

Byrd and Soriano should also be pretty safe bets for those numbers if they can stay healthy.

 

Geovany Soto.

 

DeWitt is hitting where he should. Oddly it seems to be his most productive spot in the lineup.

 

This every-day lineup along with a bench consisting of Fukudome, Perez, Baker, Barney and Ramirez should be good enough to contend in the NL central.

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2010 averages based on lineup position:

 

1.) Colvin .250/.310/.848 (Better plate discipline would lead to higher OBP, good speed & power)

2.) Castro .307/.342/.744 (Could be golden, must avoid sophmore slump)

 

3 Year averages based on lineup position:

 

3.) Pena .245/.422/.982 (Logical placement with Lee's departure, needs to bounce back)

4.) Ramirez .286/.363/.875 (Anchorman of Cubs lineup)

5.) Byrd .285/.343/.743 (Good bet to stick to 3 year average)

6.) Soriano .271/.325/.825 (Should be in the neighborhood of 3 year average)

7.) Soto .292/.409/.912 (A lower spot in the order will help him stay strong for the long haul)

8.) DeWitt .310/.399/.810 (Seems to accel in this spot - logical positon anyway)

 

For one, I loved the youngsters at the top of the order last year. I think it was one of the few bright spots. More experience could lead to better production.

 

Pena and Ramirez should bounce back to post numbers in line with their respective 3 year averages.

 

Byrd and Soriano should also be pretty safe bets for those numbers if they can stay healthy.

 

Geovany Soto.

 

DeWitt is hitting where he should. Oddly it seems to be his most productive spot in the lineup.

 

This every-day lineup along with a bench consisting of Fukudome, Perez, Baker, Barney and Ramirez should be good enough to contend in the NL central.

How so?

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Quade was actually starting to pencil Soto into the 6th spot fairly consistently until Soto went down with an injury. My guess is that the 6th and 7th spots will be Soriano and Soto, not necessarily in that order.

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