NFC Championship (Bears fans)

[Guest]

So it's legit. And the worst part is, all the morons who diagnosed him through the TV won't be called to task for it in the slightest.

 

No, the worst part of it is that our franchise QB has a serious injury.

[Formerly Snayke]

After finding Cutler's injury suspicious yesterday, I've come around to the idea that I overreacted. Even if I don't care for Cutler as a quarterback, I don't think he milked it and I think all of this armchair diagnosing of his knee from the media and players is completely overblown. It reminded me of our own situation in St. Louis with Colby Rasmus and how people automatically assume he doesn't care because he isn't outwardly showing emotion.

[Mark Priors Calves]

yea, teary-eyed freak boy is on Cutlers crotch now

 

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/01/roenick-says-cutler-sure-is-no-hockey-player.html

god, today can't get over fast enough.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm shocked @thekapman isn't tearing into Cutler.

[minnesotacubsfan]

No they don't.

 

That's the most popular way to classify an in-game injury. I pretty much always hear questionable or doubtful. When Maurkice Pouncey left the Steelers game and it was quite clear he wasn't coming back in (taken off on a cart and hobbling around on crutches) the Steelers announced he was questionable to return.

 

Why they do that I don't know, but it's the popular thing to do.

 

Pouncey's a [expletive]

 

 

seriously. a sprained ankle? they couldnt just tape that [expletive] up and send him back out? what a joke.

[Formerly Snayke]

So it's legit. And the worst part is, all the morons who diagnosed him through the TV won't be called to task for it in the slightest.

 

No, the worst part of it is that our franchise QB has a serious injury.

 

..of which you can recover from in six weeks.

[SouthSideRyan]

After finding Cutler's injury suspicious yesterday, I've come around to the idea that I overreacted.

 

I don't understand where anyone was coming from on this. I heard all the meatheads at the bar saying how he was scared so he begged out of the game. How in the [expletive] does that make any sense as it's coming out of your mouth? He's missed one game in his career and it was because he was getting murdered on the field the week before. But yeah, he's the type to beg out of a game with a minor injury.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

So it's legit. And the worst part is, all the morons who diagnosed him through the TV won't be called to task for it in the slightest.

 

No, the worst part of it is that our franchise QB has a serious injury.

It's a bit of a stretch to label it serious.

[Formerly Snayke]

After finding Cutler's injury suspicious yesterday, I've come around to the idea that I overreacted.

 

I don't understand where anyone was coming from on this. I heard all the meatheads at the bar saying how he was scared so he begged out of the game. How in the [expletive] does that make any sense as it's coming out of your mouth? He's missed one game in his career and it was because he was getting murdered on the field the week before. But yeah, he's the type to beg out of a game with a minor injury.

 

I was in and out of the game. I saw that Cutler played the first series, then he was done. It seemed odd at the time that his injury was so severe that they needed all of three minutes and no taking him to the locker room to check him out. Then I read that he hurt the knee before the half.

[chuckywang]

Anybody watching the Lovie/Angelo press conference? What channel is it on?

[SouthSideRyan]

After finding Cutler's injury suspicious yesterday, I've come around to the idea that I overreacted.

 

I don't understand where anyone was coming from on this. I heard all the meatheads at the bar saying how he was scared so he begged out of the game. How in the [expletive] does that make any sense as it's coming out of your mouth? He's missed one game in his career and it was because he was getting murdered on the field the week before. But yeah, he's the type to beg out of a game with a minor injury.

 

I was in and out of the game. I saw that Cutler played the first series, then he was done. It seemed odd at the time that his injury was so severe that they needed all of three minutes and no taking him to the locker room to check him out. Then I read that he hurt the knee before the half.

 

So honestly, what did you think happened? They didn't score on the first series, and Jay figured the game was over so he faked an injury? I mean, I understand it's retrospect, but do you understand how ridiculous you sound?

[Formerly Snayke]

So honestly, what did you think happened? They didn't score on the first series, and Jay figured the game was over so he faked an injury? I mean, I understand it's retrospect, but do you understand how ridiculous you sound?

 

Instead of getting pissy with me, why don't you go look up Asante Samuel on Twitter and be ignorant to him?

[abuck1220]

I'm shocked @thekapman isn't tearing into Cutler.

 

i was too until i remembered his name was jay cutler and not jay martinez.

[UMFan83]

After finding Cutler's injury suspicious yesterday, I've come around to the idea that I overreacted. Even if I don't care for Cutler as a quarterback, I don't think he milked it and I think all of this armchair diagnosing of his knee from the media and players is completely overblown. It reminded me of our own situation in St. Louis with Colby Rasmus and how people automatically assume he doesn't care because he isn't outwardly showing emotion.

 

Yeah and although its a bit annoying, its perfectly fine for the meatheads to think whatever they want. But when the talking heads and the former players are validating their thoughts, thats when you are in big trouble.

 

I've become extremely disillusioned with the media over the last 6-7 months, first with the LeBron James/My (made up source) says.. saga and now with seeing how much power these talking heads have to sway the general public towards an opinion. 20-30 years ago, there were probably 1% as many talking heads out there, and the ones that were out there had earned the publics trust (for the most part) with sound judgement and level headed thinking. These people you could actually call experts. But these days, everyone is a talking head. Every 2 bit sports cable network has opinionated commentators, former players who were known for their low game IQ on the field can now get on a show and spout garbage, even active players can get on their soapbox while on their couch and sway opinion. The meathead public seems to treat every single person that comes on their TV or computer with an opinion as an expert. Once an idea catches on, groupthink takes over, and suddenly people are talking about things as if they are fact. Now even though people will take back what they said yesterday, the damage is done. The general public will now associate Cutler with quitter in the back of their minds, and Cutler will continue to be scrutinized before every big game, or every injury he gets during a game. And when they aren't talking about that, they will be talking about how Cutler is an INT machine that can't be trusted, and people crack jokes about him constantly.

 

(on a similar tangent: I saw just how bad the perception of Cutler is with fans of other teams at the game yesterday. I midway through the 1st quarter a Packer fan in front of me started gettnig frustrated and said, completely seriously, (paraprasing) "dammit why hasnt jay cutler thrown any interceptions yet? The bears are getting completely lucky right because Cutler always throws 5-6 passes that should be interceptions every game." I honestly feel like the general public looks at him on the same level as Rex Grossman. No one fears him, no one expects him to beat their team. They all expect a few good throws mixed with several terrible INTs/bad passes from him and that's just not fair.)

[UMFan83]

So it's legit. And the worst part is, all the morons who diagnosed him through the TV won't be called to task for it in the slightest.

 

No, the worst part of it is that our franchise QB has a serious injury.

It's a bit of a stretch to label it serious.

 

I thought the worst case sceario with the most severe MCL tear was 6-7 months until they are ready to go again. That would put us in the July/August range. Would probably miss a lot of training camp but no real games, unless they switch to 18 game season with just 2 preseason games.

[Formerly Snayke]

So it's legit. And the worst part is, all the morons who diagnosed him through the TV won't be called to task for it in the slightest.

 

No, the worst part of it is that our franchise QB has a serious injury.

It's a bit of a stretch to label it serious.

 

I thought the worst case sceario with the most severe MCL tear was 6-7 months until they are ready to go again. That would put us in the July/August range. Would probably miss a lot of training camp but no real games, unless they switch to 18 game season with just 2 preseason games.

 

Six weeks.

[Banedon]

Yeah, it looks like this is probably a 6 week injury.

[shnsajax]

ESPN bottom-line just reported Cutler has torn MCL.

Way to be on top of the breaking news.

 

:good:

 

Clearly I didn't read two pages back. Sorry, didn't realize your post was that important to you.

It does. We should have IRL fisticuffs at the Hooters on William D. Tate in Grapevine to settle the matter.

 

Bone Daddy's!

Better yet, let's each pick a waitress and have them jello wrestle to determine a winner.

 

I would be willing to take the rest of the day off from work for that.

[Guest]

So honestly, what did you think happened? They didn't score on the first series, and Jay figured the game was over so he faked an injury? I mean, I understand it's retrospect, but do you understand how ridiculous you sound?

 

Instead of getting pissy with me, why don't you go look up Asante Samuel on Twitter and be ignorant to him?

 

Asante Samuel knows nothing about Jay Cutler other than the fact he lost to him. Who cares what Asante Samuel says or does? However, one would hope a true Bears fan has seen Jay play enough at this point to never call into question his toughness.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Anybody watching the Lovie/Angelo press conference? What channel is it on?

 

yes, anyone? I'm curious as hell

[Guest]

So it's legit. And the worst part is, all the morons who diagnosed him through the TV won't be called to task for it in the slightest.

 

No, the worst part of it is that our franchise QB has a serious injury.

 

..of which you can recover from in six weeks.

 

Fair enough - I wasn't aware the recovery was that quick. That's pretty good news.

[Banedon]

Anybody watching the Lovie/Angelo press conference? What channel is it on?

 

yes, anyone? I'm curious as hell

 

“I haven’t seen it before,” Smith said of the kind of criticism Cutler has gotten from around the NFL. “It seems like if you’re in that fraternity you’d be stepping up for your fellow man. Especially when you don’t know. You don’t know what’s going on. As far as Jay, Jay didn’t take himself out of the game. If you’re going to be attacking somebody, attack me, as a head football coach — and our medical staff — we’re the ones. He wanted to go back in. He was injured and went back in in the second half. So I see it as the complete opposite.”

 

Smith told the reporters present that he was surprised there was so much scrutiny on Cutler.

 

“For most of you it seems like the storyline has been about whether our quarterback is a tough guy,” Smith said. “Our quarterback is a tough guy. He wanted to win the game as much as anyone. It’s pretty simple what happened yesterday. Before the half Jay hurt his knee, showed a lot of toughness to continue to play with it. Right before the half, when we threw the pick, the medical staff — we all — made the decision that he couldn’t go. We took him in to try to work on him, which we did. But Jay, you know, we got the treatment there at halftime, we weren’t sure if he would be able to go. He wanted to go and tried to go the second half as he went back in that first series. You never want a player to be out on the football field if he can’t protect himself and can’t perform his duties. That’s what happened.

 

“For guys to take a shot that weren’t there, to try to look at his body language and figure out whether he was hurt because he was on the sideline, or, ‘What I would do in that situation,’ you don’t know what you would do in that situation. The guys that know what he was going through were the guys on our sideline. And you go to our players and see exactly what went on. I have no questions about any of that for our football team.”

[Banedon]

Ha....Boomer Esiason rips Deion...talking about the Cutler criticism...

 

“I have a real problem with that,” Esiason said. “Deion was a guy that did not like to mix it up, did not like to make tackles. And has basically told other defensive backs, ‘Listen, you don’t get paid to make tackles, you get paid to break up passes.’”

[UMFan83]

The Trib really isn't help fan the flames:

 

Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler suffered an MCL sprain in his left knee during Sunday's NFC Championship Game loss to the Green Bay Packers, coach Lovie Smith confirmed Monday. But Cutler's injury is much less severe than initially reported.

 

A sprain usually equates to some sort of tear, but the damage Cutler suffered was not a complete rupture. The injury was significant enough to keep Cutler from finishing Sunday's game, and Smith said he would have been questionable had the Bears reached the Super Bowl.

 

[Formerly Snayke]

Asante Samuel knows nothing about Jay Cutler other than the fact he lost to him. Who cares what Asante Samuel says or does? However, one would hope a true Bears fan has seen Jay play enough at this point to never call into question his toughness.

 

I agree with your statement, but I'm not a Bears fan, kind sir. I already admitted to being wrong, but it's not enough for SSR, who I'm guessing wants me to write an apology letter to Cutler.