NFC Championship (Bears fans)

[UMFan83]

I'm picking the Packers to cover the -3.5 spread knowing that a few Manifesto theories are working against them (we mentioned them earlier), knowing everyone spent the week glorifying Aaron Rodgers, and knowing that this game is a severe doppleganger to the 2006 title game (Bears-Saints). All of those things are noted.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't understand the Grossman/Cutler comparisons. They are incredibly superficial at best, and really not even close. Chicago made it where they made it in 2006 despite Grossman. He had a few moments, and provided some hope for the future, but the defense and special teams carried the day. Chicago goes nowhere this year without Cutler. He's been the biggest reason for success.

[UMFan83]

I was so close!!! He went with 30-17 Packers. Off by 1 point. Predictable. If the Bears lose by more than 10 points, I will put on Packer gear, take a picture and then post it on NSBB.

 

 

This one's a little more simple: The Packers are clearly the most talented NFC team, only their injuries knocked them down to a 6-seed and made that hard to see... but like the Jets, they're peaking at the right time; James Starks gave them a running game; they're ridiculously explosive offensively; Rodgers is jumping a level; their defense makes plays; and their secondary locks people down. You can talk yourself into the Bears with all the abstract stuff, but I made that mistake with Atlanta last weekend - they're home, nobody thinks they can win, they'll get a couple of dumb mistakes -- and then the game started and they got whupped. Green Bay has the best team and the best player. So why overthink it?

 

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN!????!! He had one good game against a mediocre run D (philly), and then next week with all the hype he had 25 carries for 68 yards against Atlanta. Meanwhile the Bears have been destroying running games all year and James [expletive] Starks is supposed to be a factor in them winning? BS.

[bukie]

I don't have a problem with a factual argument that the Packers are the best team in the NFC (they probably are). However, to say that they have a running game now is objectively false. The Packers are where they are because of Aaron Rodgers and the defense.

 

The Packers can lose this weekend because of their lack of a running game and awful special teams. Oh, and because the Bears are no slouch, and quite likely the second best team in the NFC if the Packers are the best (Falcons and Eagles are right there too).

[UMFan83]

I don't understand the Grossman/Cutler comparisons. They are incredibly superficial at best, and really not even close. Chicago made it where they made it in 2006 despite Grossman. He had a few moments, and provided some hope for the future, but the defense and special teams carried the day. Chicago goes nowhere this year without Cutler. He's been the biggest reason for success.

 

It's just the idiot media trying to rationalize things by making loose comparisons since they don't watch every Bears game or follow them like us fans do. That's why the media is so BS and not worth listening to. They don't know anymore about anything than the average die hard.

[minnesotacubsfan]

the almighty packers run game

 

wth

[DiamondMind]

Green Bay only had 10 less rushing yards than us during the season (1616-1606) and only averaged 0.6 less ypg (101.0-100.4). Chicago's defense, however, allowed about 400 less rushing yards than the Packers' over the season (1838-1441).

[minnesotacubsfan]

whats amazing is Chicago, Detroit, and GB all are pretty even in that catagory:

 

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2010&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

[Old Style]

Green Bay only had 10 less rushing yards than us during the season (1616-1606) and only averaged 0.6 less ypg (101.0-100.4). Chicago's defense, however, allowed about 400 less rushing yards than the Packers' over the season (1838-1441).

That's because Martz was a stubborn fool in several games throwing the ball way too much.

[UMFan83]

Green Bay only had 10 less rushing yards than us during the season (1616-1606) and only averaged 0.6 less ypg (101.0-100.4). Chicago's defense, however, allowed about 400 less rushing yards than the Packers' over the season (1838-1441).

That's because Martz was a stubborn fool in several games throwing the ball way too much.

 

Exactly...look at our rushing yards in games early in the year....

 

101 yards vs. DET

38 vs. DAL

77 vs. GB

59 vs. NYG

61 vs. SEA

66 vs. WAS

 

then look post bye....

105 vs. BUF

130 vs. MIN

135 vs. MIA

131 vs. PHI

114 vs. DET

104 vs. MIN

120 vs. NYJ

110 vs. GB

170 vs. SEA

 

Basically, they only had two 100 yard rushing games, as a team, pre bye, and post bye we had only 1 game where we rushed for less than 100 yards as a team.

[Soul]

Green Bay only had 10 less rushing yards than us during the season (1616-1606) and only averaged 0.6 less ypg (101.0-100.4). Chicago's defense, however, allowed about 400 less rushing yards than the Packers' over the season (1838-1441).

That's because Martz was a stubborn fool in several games throwing the ball way too much.

 

Eh, the number of attempts are pretty similar though. A few more for the Packers, not many.

 

I think the Bears are going to need to run effectively to realistically have a hope of winning. So I hope we've solved any early season issues and can reliably give Forte the rock and have him pick up yards.

 

If Cutler has to throw and the Packers know he has to throw -- well, I don't want to think about what might happen in that scenario.

[jersey cubs fan]

They were also getting sub 3.0 YPA out of Forte with an ever changing line at the time. It wasn't a simple case of not calling it enough. They weren't capable of running.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Zombo is out, Spitz questionable. the packers injury report is like a Civil War battle report:

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/21/one-bear-12-packers-on-injury-report/

[XZero771679666304]

Green Bay only had 10 less rushing yards than us during the season (1616-1606) and only averaged 0.6 less ypg (101.0-100.4). Chicago's defense, however, allowed about 400 less rushing yards than the Packers' over the season (1838-1441).

That's because Martz was a stubborn fool in several games throwing the ball way too much.

 

Eh, the number of attempts are pretty similar though. A few more for the Packers, not many.

 

I think the Bears are going to need to run effectively to realistically have a hope of winning. So I hope we've solved any early season issues and can reliably give Forte the rock and have him pick up yards.

 

If Cutler has to throw and the Packers know he has to throw -- well, I don't want to think about what might happen in that scenario.

 

This game will turn on the Bears o-line, imo. If they don't come up big, we lose.

[erik316wttn]

Zombo is out, Spitz questionable. the packers injury report is like a Civil War battle report:

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/21/one-bear-12-packers-on-injury-report/

 

It's been like that all year. I shudder to think just how good the Packers would have been this year if they hadn't been decimated by injuries like they were.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Zombo is out, Spitz questionable. the packers injury report is like a Civil War battle report:

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/21/one-bear-12-packers-on-injury-report/

 

It's been like that all year. I shudder to think just how good the Packers would have been this year if they hadn't been decimated by injuries like they were.

 

Small earthquakes have just been reported in southeastern Wisconsin.

[Magnetic Curses]

Zombo is out, Spitz questionable. the packers injury report is like a Civil War battle report:

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/21/one-bear-12-packers-on-injury-report/

 

It's been like that all year. I shudder to think just how good the Packers would have been this year if they hadn't been decimated by injuries like they were.

 

Small earthquakes have just been reported in southeastern Wisconsin.

 

lol.

 

but what if tommie harris hadn't suffered that career-changing injury in 06?

[rawaction]

Zombo is out, Spitz questionable. the packers injury report is like a Civil War battle report:

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/21/one-bear-12-packers-on-injury-report/

 

It's been like that all year. I shudder to think just how good the Packers would have been this year if they hadn't been decimated by injuries like they were.

 

The Jermichael Finley loss is huge for GB. They are a different team with him. He had 21 catches in 4 games this year, the rest of the Packers TEs had 34 in the final 12 games, for just 70 more yards than Finley. Plus, he is a nearly impossible matchup for the Bears. He's a Cover 2 buster as he has the speed to beat the LBs deep and give the safeties something to think about if you send the outside WRs deep also.

[Keener98]

Zombo is out, Spitz questionable. the packers injury report is like a Civil War battle report:

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/21/one-bear-12-packers-on-injury-report/

 

It's been like that all year. I shudder to think just how good the Packers would have been this year if they hadn't been decimated by injuries like they were.

 

The Jermichael Finley loss is huge for GB. They are a different team with him. He had 21 catches in 4 games this year, the rest of the Packers TEs had 34 in the final 12 games, for just 70 more yards than Finley. Plus, he is a nearly impossible matchup for the Bears. He's a Cover 2 buster as he has the speed to beat the LBs deep and give the safeties something to think about if you send the outside WRs deep also.

 

Yup, if Finley plays vs the Bears there is noway the Bears can beat them....Oh wait they did beat them with Finley and while almost the entire team was healthy(minus Grant).

 

Not directed towards you Raw, but just speaking in general about how "good" the Pack would be if their awesome team had been healthy all year.

[imb]

Zombo is out, Spitz questionable. the packers injury report is like a Civil War battle report:

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/21/one-bear-12-packers-on-injury-report/

 

It's been like that all year. I shudder to think just how good the Packers would have been this year if they hadn't been decimated by injuries like they were.

 

Small earthquakes have just been reported in southeastern Wisconsin.

 

Hahaha

[Flames24Rulz]

Zombo is out, Spitz questionable. the packers injury report is like a Civil War battle report:

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/21/one-bear-12-packers-on-injury-report/

 

This is as healthy as we've been all year, really. Jason Spitz sucks and hasn't played since he was benched after filling in for Colledge in the Lions game.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Zombo is out, Spitz questionable. the packers injury report is like a Civil War battle report:

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/21/one-bear-12-packers-on-injury-report/

 

It's been like that all year. I shudder to think just how good the Packers would have been this year if they hadn't been decimated by injuries like they were.

 

Small earthquakes have just been reported in southeastern Wisconsin.

 

Hahaha

 

Seattle has Marshawn Lynch, Wisconsin has Erik.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Zombo is out, Spitz questionable. the packers injury report is like a Civil War battle report:

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/21/one-bear-12-packers-on-injury-report/

 

This is as healthy as we've been all year, really. Jason Spitz sucks and hasn't played since he was benched after filling in for Colledge in the Lions game.

 

I know, I'm just adding comment

[minnesotacubsfan]

nsfw

 

 

lo pan, who is this anyway????

[UMFan83]

Zombo is out, Spitz questionable. the packers injury report is like a Civil War battle report:

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/21/one-bear-12-packers-on-injury-report/

 

It's been like that all year. I shudder to think just how good the Packers would have been this year if they hadn't been decimated by injuries like they were.

 

Maybe they would have even made the NFC Championship game